Тема для флуда любимой латиницей

[Hellerick]

Odin iz proektov Avakumova vstrecaet zriteley priamo nad glavnym vhodom v Kranoyarskiy muzeinyi tsentr. Eto 12 kruglyh panoramnyh zerkal (takie visiat v supermarketah), razvexanyh v opredelenom poriadke. Proekt poniaten tollko zriacim, pricem te, kro znaet azbuku Brailia, smogli by procestt slojenoe iz nih slovo "dall".

"Zdess paradoks v tom, xto iz liudey zriacih ee ne ponimaet pocti nikto. Ee znayut miliony nezriacih, no uvidett etogo oni ne smogut", -- govorit Avakumov.

[Zak Nightingale]

Hellerick, почему "muzeinyi", а не muzeynyi, если тут же есть "liudey" и "zriteley"?
Если же Y пишется только в конце слов, то почему тогда "muzeinyi", а не "muzeinyy"?
Ведь есть же слова с сочетанием -YI-: vyigryvatt, к примеру.

[Hellerick]

Danaya sistema (kotoruyu ya imenuyu "Botanitsa") dobivaetsa kratkosti, prakticeskogo udobstva i estetiki, jertvuya sistemnostyu i posledovatellnostyu.

Hellerick, почему "muzeinyi", а не muzeynyi, если тут же есть "liudey" и "zriteley"?

Potomu xto razlicatt И and Й polezno tollko na kontse slov.

Estt esce para "воины"/"войны" -- no na etom forume uje ne raz sporili, razlicayutsa li oni v reallnom proiznoxenii.

K tomu je Y v pozitsii mejdu glasnoy i soglasnoy neesteticna -- takoe ispollzovanie prakticeski ne vstrecaetsa v yazykah, dlia kotoryh latinskaya pissmennost yavliaetsa osnovnoy, i vydaet v ney transliteratsiyu (iskliuceniem, naskollko ya ponimayu, yavliayutsa tiurkskie latinitsy, no ono lix podtverjdayuscee pravilo -- danye pissmennosti sutt novodely).

Если же Y пишется только в конце слов, то почему тогда "muzeinyi", а не "muzeinyy"?

Potomu xto dvoinaya Y vygliadit straxno. Eto opiatt taki vydavalo by v pissmennosti transliteratsiyu.

Ведь есть же слова с сочетанием -YI-: vyigryvatt, к примеру.

Nu i xto? Liudiam bollxe ne nujno dumatt, pixetsa li slovo "выиграть" ili "выйграть" -- eto daje lucxe.

[Hellerick]

Pofluju pro avtomobillnye nomera v Amerike

V xtate Ogaio voditeliam, poimanym za rulem pyanymi, vydayut nomera jeltogo tsveta.

Stiv Djobs pocemu-to ocenn ne liubil avtomobillnye nomera. On pollzovalsia tem xto Kaliforniyskie zakony pozvoliayut pol-goda ne registrirovatt avtomobill, i kajdye xestt mesiatsev peresajivalsia na novyi "Mersedes" neotlicimyi ot predyduscego -- poetomu na ego maxine nomerov ne bylo nikogda.

V xtate Nyu-Gempxir na nomerah napisan deviz xtata: "Live Free or Die". Ironiya v tom, xto proizvodstvom nomernyh znakov zaniaty tiuremnye zakliucenye.

V Los-Andjelese odin xutnik zakazal sebe nomer "NO PLATE". No izza sboya v programe emu na poctu stali prihoditt xtrafy so vseh avtomobiley bez nomerov.

Drugoy xutnik, v xtate Virdjiniya, vospollzovavxiss tem, xto v nijney casti nomera napisan lozung "Kids first", zakazal sebe nomer "EAT THE". Cerez nekotoroe vremia u nego otobrali nomera, zayaviv, xto "Eat the kids first" yavliaetsa propagandoy orallnogo seksa s nesoverxenoletnimi.

V Kalifornii toje ne liubiat seksuallnye konotatsii, poetomu cislo "69" razrexaetsa ispollzovatt tollko na nomerah avtomobiley, proizvedenyh v 1969 godu.

[troyshadow]

kakta ixö do ukraínskaj vajny mai tavarixi vcitvirom trolili mintov na prapravitiljstvenyh mitingah: odin vstaval s baljxim plakatam "Putin",a astaljnyje vstavali rädam v majkah s  bukvami X,Y i Ñ,paslednüju majku nadivala devuxka na goloje tela i naiznanku(bukva byla vidna s aboih staron.Pri pritenzijah sa starany mintov pridlagala piriadetj "präm tut",no priduprijjdala,xto ani vynujdajut jyjo k pravanaruxeniju,katoraje mojjna rascynitj kak siksualjnaje damagatiljstva s ih starany,a pri dasdavke v atdel patixalisj nad papytkami sastavitj pratakol: vedj addeljna vzätyje bukcanasiteli nikakih pravanaruxenij ni savirxali...

[Hellerick]

Ni v cem liudi tak ne kreativny, kak v podlosti.

[Hellerick]

Stroitellstvo arki v Sent-Luise.



Liubopytnaya tehnologiya.

[Hellerick]

Pridumyvayu sokrascalku dlia angliyskogo yazyka.

Код Выделить Развернуть

import re

# letter frequency in English, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_frequency#Relative_frequencies_of_letters_in_the_English_language
lf={'a':110, 'b':20, 'c':38, 'd':57, 'e':172, 'f':30, 'g':27, 'h':82, 'i':94, 'j':2, 'k':10, 'l':54, 'm':33, 'n':91, 'o':101, 'p':26, 'q':1, 'r':81, 's':86, 't':122, 'u':37, 'v':13, 'w':32, 'x':2, 'y':27, 'z':1}

thetext = (
"""Russia, also officially known as the Russian Federation, is a country in northern Eurasia. It is a federal semi-presidential republic. At 17,075,400 square kilometres (6,592,800 sq mi), Russia is the largest country in the world, covering more than one-eighth of the Earth's inhabited land area. Russia is also the world's ninth most populous nation with nearly 144 million people as of 2015.

Extending across the entirety of northern Asia and much of Eastern Europe, Russia spans nine time zones and incorporates a wide range of environments and landforms. From northwest to southeast, Russia shares land borders with Norway, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland (both with Kaliningrad Oblast), Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, China, Mongolia, and North Korea. It shares maritime borders with Japan by the Sea of Okhotsk and the U.S. state of Alaska across the Bering Strait.

The nation's history began with that of the East Slavs, who emerged as a recognizable group in Europe between the 3rd and 8th centuries AD. Founded and ruled by a Varangian warrior elite and their descendants, the medieval state of Rus arose in the 9th century. In 988 it adopted Orthodox Christianity from the Byzantine Empire, beginning the synthesis of Byzantine and Slavic cultures that defined Russian culture for the next millennium. Rus' ultimately disintegrated into a number of smaller states; most of the Rus' lands were overrun by the Mongol invasion and became tributaries of the nomadic Golden Horde. The Grand Duchy of Moscow gradually reunified the surrounding Russian principalities, achieved independence from the Golden Horde, and came to dominate the cultural and political legacy of Kievan Rus'. By the 18th century, the nation had greatly expanded through conquest, annexation, and exploration to become the Russian Empire, which was the third largest empire in history, stretching from Poland in Europe to Alaska in North America.

Following the Russian Revolution, the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic became the largest and leading constituent of the Soviet Union, the world's first constitutionally socialist state and a recognized superpower, which played a decisive role in the Allied victory in World War II. The Soviet era saw some of the most significant technological achievements of the 20th century, including the world's first human-made satellite, and the first man in space. Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Russian SFSR reconstituted itself as the Russian Federation and is recognized as the continuing legal personality (the sole successor state) of the Union state.

The Russian economy ranks as the ninth largest by nominal GDP and sixth largest by purchasing power parity in 2014. Russia's extensive mineral and energy resources, the largest reserves in the world, have made it one of the largest producers of oil and natural gas globally. The country is one of the five recognized nuclear weapons states and possesses the largest stockpile of weapons of mass destruction. Russia is a great power and a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, a member of the G20, the Council of Europe, the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the Eurasian Economic Community, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), and the World Trade Organization (WTO), as well as being the leading member of the Commonwealth of Independent States.""")

def shorten(t):
    if len(t)<4: return t
    t = re.sub(r'[Ee]([Ss])\Z', r'|\1', t)
    t = re.sub(r'([^Ss|])([Ss])\Z', r'\1|\2', t)
    t = re.sub(r'[Ee]([Dd])\Z', r'|\1', t)
    t = re.sub(r'[Ii][Nn]([Gg])\Z', r'|\1', t)
    t = t.split('|')
    if len(t)==1: t = t + ['']
    stem, suf = t
    tab = [ [i[0], i[1], lf[i[1].lower()]+i[0]] for i in enumerate(stem)]
    tab[0][2] = tab[0][2]//10
    for i in range(1,len(tab)):
        if tab[i][1] == tab[i-1][1]: tab[i][2] = tab[i][2]*10
    tab.sort(key = lambda x: x[2])
    tab = tab[0:3]
    tab.sort(key = lambda x: x[0])
    abbr = ''.join([x[1] for x in tab])+suf
    return abbr

splittext = re.split('([^a-zA-Z]+)', thetext) + ['']
if splittext[-2] == '':
    splittext = splittext[:-2]
splittext = list(zip(splittext[::2], splittext[1::2]))
out = ''
for line in splittext:
    out = out + shorten(line[0]) + line[1]
print (out)

Vyvodit:

Rus, als ofy knw as the Rus Fdr, is a cuy in nrh Eur. It is a fdl smi-pdl rpb. At 17,075,400 squ klms (6,592,800 sq mi), Rus is the lrg cuy in the wld, cvrg mor thn one-egh of the Erh's ihbd lnd ara. Rus is als the wld's nnh mos ppus nin wih nly 144 mil ppl as of 2015.

Exdg acr the ery of nrh Asi and muc of Esr Eup, Rus spns nin tim zons and icps a wid rng of evms and lfms. Frm nrw to suh, Rus shrs lnd brds wih Nwy, Fld, Esn, Lvi, Lhu and Pld (boh wih Klg Obl), Blus, Ukr, Grg, Azj, Kzk, Chn, Mgl, and Nrh Kor. It shrs mrm brds wih Jpn by the Sea of Okk and the U.S. sta of Alk acr the Berg Sri.

The nin's hry bgn wih tha of the Eas Slvs, who emgd as a rzb gup in Eup bwn the 3rd and 8th curs AD. Fudd and ruld by a Vrg wrr eli and thr dcds, the mdv sta of Rus ars in the 9th cuy. In 988 it adpd Odx Chy frm the Byz Emp, bgng the syhs of Byz and Svc cuus tha dfnd Rus cuu for the nxt mum. Rus' umy dsgd ino a nmb of sml stas; mos of the Rus' lnds wer ovu by the Mgl ivs and bcm tbus of the nmc Gld Hrd. The Grd Duy of Mcw guy rufd the suug Rus pcps, acvd ipc frm the Gld Hrd, and cam to dmn the cuu and plc lgy of Kiv Rus'. By the 18th cuy, the nin had gly expd tug cqu, anx, and exp to bcm the Rus Emp, whc was the thd lrg emp in hry, srcg frm Pld in Eup to Alk in Nrh Amc.

Flwg the Rus Rvu, the Rus Svi Fdv Scl Rpb bcm the lrg and ladg csu of the Svi Unn, the wld's frs cuy scl sta and a rgzd spp, whc plyd a dcv rol in the Alid vcy in Wld War II. The Svi era saw som of the mos sgf tcg acvs of the 20th cuy, icug the wld's frs hum-mad sli, and the frs man in spc. Flwg the dlu of the Svi Unn in 1991, the Rus SFR rcud ilf as the Rus Fdr and is rgzd as the cnug lgl ply (the sol suc sta) of the Unn sta.

The Rus emy rnks as the nnh lrg by nml GDP and sxh lrg by pucg pwr pry in 2014. Rus's exv mrl and egy rucs, the lrg rrvs in the wld, hav mad it one of the lrg pucs of oil and nul gas gby. The cuy is one of the fiv rgzd nuc wpns stas and psss the lrg skp of wpns of mas duc. Rus is a gra pwr and a prm mmb of the Unid Nins Scy Cuc, a mmb of the G20, the Cuc of Eup, the Asi-Pcf Ecm Cpr, the Shg Cpr Ogz, the Eur Ecm Cmy, the Ogz for Scy and Cpr in Eup (OSC), and the Wld Trd Ogz (WTO), as wel as beg the ladg mmb of the Cmw of Idp Stas.

[Hellerick]

Vot tak rabotaet majoritarnaya sistema:

[Лила]

Stroitellstvo arki v Sent-Luise.



Liubopytnaya tehnologiya.

Gde kartinka?

[Hellerick]

Udaliayut gady.

Vot kartinka:

[Alone Coder]

Mogno razdelitj etu temu na flud latinitsej-26 i flud junikodom?

[Easyskanker]

Zaccem?

[Alone Coder]

Licno mne junikodovye varianty neinteresny. V junikode mogno pisatj i kirillitsej.

[Hellerick]

Lix odnajdy Astrid Lindgren poprobovala sebia na nive politiceskoy satiry — posle togo, kak ee dohod oblojili nalogom v 102%.

[Alone Coder]

Variant:

Lisc odnagdy Astrid Lindhren poprobovala sebia na nive politiceskoj satiry — posle tovo, kak ejo doxod oblogili nalohom v 102%.

[Hellerick]

"Naloh" -- eto ocenn pravillno.

[Hellerick]

V 18-m veke v Londonskom zooparke v kacestve vhodnoy platy prinimali sobak i koxek. Imi potom kormili llvov.

[troyshadow]

unikod vyzyvajet u menä kakoje-to êstêticeskoje otvraxenije vplotj do nejëlanija citatj voobxe.I diakritika tojë.

[troyshadow]

V 18-m veke v Londonskom zooparke v kacestve vhodnoy platy prinimali sobak i koxek. Imi potom kormili llvov.

Ĉto znaĉit döŝevo i bez liŝnego,t.j. loĵnogo gumanizma.Ĵalj,ĉeloveĉestvo ne podhodit tak ĵe racionaljno k reŝeniju i ĉeloveĉeskih problem.

[Малехар]

A kak po mne, lučše vsego pod russkij jazīk podhodit latīšskaja raskladka. Daže meņatj ničego ne nužno. Toļko garumzīme označatj širotu glasnoj, no ne dolgotu, [ē] - "э", [ī] - "ы" 

[troyshadow]

vsjo taki rixýl virnuca k pirvanacjáljnamu variántu: fanytíciskamu,íba glupa sahranjatj russkakirilíciskuju arfagráfiju pri sméne alfavíta,hatjá i pirigrużenamu diakrítikaj.Nada kakta s étim cjtota pridumatj...
Snacjala paprobuju prosta ubratj abjazateljnyj znak udarenija....
Jixjo jestj micjta zapilitj latinicu kak jesli by ruskij poljzavalsja jej s vrimjon do padenija riducirovanyh i tak żi neżna atnasilsja k sahraneniju ustarevxyh napisanij,kak anglijskij i francuzkij...proxje gavarja predlagaju zapilitj latinicu dlja DREVNERUSKAVA JAZYKA...dumaju,można prjam tut,a ni v novaj teme.

[Artiemij]

Prablem fseh fnytíčskih arfagráfi f tom, što píšši samĭ ni znáit, kak aní na sam delĭ gvarĭat.

[Wolliger Mensch]

Prablem fseh fnytíčskih arfagráfi f tom, što píšši samĭ ni znáit, kak aní na sam delĭ gvarĭat.

Et vaš domṣl. Fnṭič̣skj ṙaḷzacj faṇem ṣgda rzḷič̣ajc zaṿiṣmṣṭ ta mnoġh faktrf. Ṇet ṇkakoj ṇaphaḍimṣṭ ptac vsprjzṿṣṭi jjo dskanaḷn — dastatč̣n prrabotṭ uṇf̣cirvnju jpasḷedvṭḷnju ṣṣṭemu ṗṙdač̣ə zvukf, jmožn ṗsaṭ. Magu skazaṭ, što zpṃnajc ṣṣṭmṭẓirvnj ṗṣmo oč̣ṇ bistr — dastatč̣n paṇaṭ pṙincp.

[Artiemij]

Et tož nad deltĭ umetĭ. Šop prərabottĭ sistem, nužn snačĭal paatĭ, kk ana ustróin. A et složn — arfagrafĭ mišáit.