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Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: iopq on April 19, 2007, 08:12
I can't believe there's no topic here for this very popular language :)

Well, I think that's part of the problem, since there's an actual section of the forum that is dedicated to the language.

Regardless, post in English; I will correct your mistakes.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: klaus on April 20, 2007, 09:32
"Regardless, post in English; I will correct your mistakes."

Medice, cura te ipsum.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: iopq on April 20, 2007, 09:49
"Regardless, post in English; I will correct your mistakes."

Medice, cura te ipsum.
Sorry, this is not the Latin thread.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: guest on October 24, 2008, 20:26
I can't believe there's no topic here for this very popular language :)

Well, that's for it! This language's world-wide, there's so much interest in it. ecpesially in Russian... That's why, from my point of view, at this forum it's a very small popularity.  :???  :yes:
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: iopq on October 25, 2008, 16:45
Of course that's the reason for it, since everyone thinks their English is so good :)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Akulina on October 29, 2008, 03:24
Yes, let's speak English! What shall we discuss?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: regn on October 29, 2008, 06:12
Maybe, the election here in the US that's going to happen in 7 days? ;-)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: iopq on October 29, 2008, 06:23
Let's discuss several points of the English grammar that I find interesting. For example, the "singular they."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
This is used to refer to people of indeterminate gender or of indeterminate number. Long ago theis was delegated to the pronoun "he." But in the twentieth century it became more politically correct to write "he or she." Other possible nouns used in this situation are "one," "each," and "a person." Colloquially, the singular they is probably the most used. But most prescriptive grammars say that pronouns must agree in number; they state that the singular they is incorrect usage.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: iopq on October 29, 2008, 06:33
Maybe, the election here in the US that's going to happen in 7 days? ;-)
That's boring, in reality elections don't change anything because both candidates agree on everything but minor issues. Obama will take troops out of Iraq... and put them in Afghanistan. But McCain will just put more troops in Afghanistan. Big deal.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Akulina on October 29, 2008, 06:50
Alright :)
1) Election. I guess I'm on the Obama side. Not that I like him or anything, but I really do detest the Palin woman. Anyway, my opinion doesn't make any difference, since I live in Canada :)
2) Singular they. Ah yes, it is an interesting topic which I come across all the time. Personally, I try using "one" when in doubt. "They" is sometimes inavoidable, too, of course. It's rather awkward, but I think "he or she" is worse - it's longer, and really looks much too formal. I've never seen a singular they combined with a singular verb, though. It's always "they walk", never "they walks".
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: iopq on October 29, 2008, 07:42
Of course, the singular they is always used grammatically as plural. But its meaning is not necessarily plural.

If you detest Palin that just means you live in a big city. Obama tries to appeal to an audience from big cities and make the rural population look ridiculous by saying they cling to their religion and guns. Palin tries to appeal to the rural population by saying that people from small towns are somehow better. They both try to separate people by using group mentality. Democrats want their team to win, Republicans want their team to win too. It has nothing to do with actual policy.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: regn on October 29, 2008, 08:04
Palin basically doesn't know what she's talking about. Actually, this is not her fault, nor McCain's. McCain learned a lesson years ago that in the campaign nothing's dirty and nothing is unacceptable once you've decided you want to persuade your goals. In this case the goal is power, and Bush in his march defeated McCain by using all the means he could. Now McCain's behavior reflects that 100%. He already accused Obama of being a terrorist, communist, and other names, and these are not the worst things he's doing.

Sarah is barely aware of two facts: a) what a president does; b) what a VICE-PRESIDENT does... Moreover, she's using statements to bash Obama that she used in her own speeches and policies in the past. For example, one of her biggest recent speeches included a comment about Obama's policies in which she called them communist based on his statements about collective something. Keith Olbermann played a little audio from her past background in which she uses similar statements in her campaign in Alaska, meaning, she's done what she's now trying to bash and present as bad things...

Anyways, the whole thing's ridiculous. Those two can barely be called politicians. And it's almost funny to see those two clowns running for such high positions.... One thing I know for sure - McCain is even worse than Bush :( This jerk doesn't bother to process primitive things - his destructive behavior knows no limits...

I'm even not talking about the story of Miss Buffalo Chip which you guys know, I assume...
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Akulina on October 29, 2008, 08:16
Um, I won't comment on the big cities. I'm not that much into US politics, really. What set me up against Palin was her talking about the enemies of US. I don't recall the exact wording now, but it was something like "authoritarian Islamic states such as Afghanistan, Iran, and Russia." Call me an elitist, but the idea of her as a vice-president scares me.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: iopq on October 29, 2008, 08:21
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Those two can barely be called politicians
You obviously don't know what a politician is.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: regn on October 29, 2008, 17:10
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You obviously don't know what a politician is.

Excuse me?

Well, I guess I know what you mean... In this case, George Bush is a "real American president" lol
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: regn on October 29, 2008, 17:22
When a person uses someone's middle name to define THEM as a person and this sh*t lasts for weeks before another ridiculous statement comes out, what the heck are they doing in politics??? iopq, you probably don't know what the real situation is...
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: regn on October 29, 2008, 17:23
THE REPUBLICAN IDEAS (even though I am personally not thrilled with them) DESERVE BETTER REPRESENTATIVES
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: regn on October 29, 2008, 17:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOkPFtPHpy4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4RTlfRYLxA

very serious politics :-D lol
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: iopq on October 29, 2008, 17:28
When a person uses someone's middle name to define THEM as a person and this sh*t lasts for weeks before another ridiculous statement comes out, what the heck are they doing in politics??? iopq, you probably don't know what the real situation is...
I don't care, just because Republicans are idiots doesn't make Obama good in any way.
THE REPUBLICAN IDEAS (even though I am personally not thrilled with them) DESERVE BETTER REPRESENTATIVES
Ron Paul is the best representative of Republican ideals.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: regn on October 29, 2008, 18:01
Yeah, but Ron Paul is not there for McCain...

I was not trying to say that Obama's the holy God... I just tried to make a point that McCain was even worse.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: iopq on October 29, 2008, 22:30
I didn't argue that McCain was better. I argue that both suck. Vote third party.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: regn on October 29, 2008, 22:38
I can't agree that Obama sucks so hard... I like the guy eventually. Also 'cause he's black. I know it's blunt to think this way, but it kinda pleases me that America will have a black president.

Which of his policies do you specifically dislike?

Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Akulina on October 30, 2008, 00:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOkPFtPHpy4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4RTlfRYLxA

very serious politics :-D lol

Good dear God.  :o
I can't believe this. He's... Just who exactly he is trying to appeal to?
Am I happy I don't live in the US now. Though having _that_ as a neighbour...
I'd like a different globe, please  :no:
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: regn on October 30, 2008, 01:10
He's trying to pimp out his own wife. He was not quite aware of what kind of "beauty contest" Miss Buffalo Chip was and told those bikers that he was encouraging his wife Sindy (the woman in the bgr) to compete. The actual contest is for whores who come to show their boobs. Of course, McCain was a bit suprised (and so was Sindy) when the crowd started roaring "show us your tits!"
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: iopq on October 30, 2008, 05:06
I can't agree that Obama sucks so hard... I like the guy eventually. Also 'cause he's black. I know it's blunt to think this way, but it kinda pleases me that America will have a black president.

Which of his policies do you specifically dislike?


I dislike his position on Afghanistan, because he says we need more troops in Afghanistan. i think we need less troops everywhere.

I don't like his health care proposal. We all know how badly the Social Security system is doing right now and he wants to create ANOTHER inefficient bureaucracy.

He voted for the Patriot Act in 2006. He voted for the bailout bill. I could list more things, but he basically agrees with McCain on a whole host of issues.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: regn on October 30, 2008, 18:20
Yeah, I agree that his health care policies will increase the level of bureaucracy, but, you know, with the current situation when 47 million people aren't insured, I think any bureaucracy should be welcomed... I'm sorry if my vision of the whole thing seems blunt, but I've got friends in Pennsylvania who waited days and days 'til they felt bad enough and got to an E-room! 'cause their f*cking health insurance didn't cover something!  :down:
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: sharman01 on October 30, 2008, 23:08
People, why burn the fuse? Let them rotten politicians do what they anyway would in this crazy world!
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: iopq on November 6, 2008, 06:49
What's that? You have to pay people for their work? NO, that can't be possible! Make the government pay for it.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: arseniiv on November 8, 2008, 19:17
Well, and there's not topics anymore, which are possible to talk about except politics?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: KARINA on November 10, 2008, 22:35
hello everybody))))))))) :)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Strom on November 11, 2008, 16:43
arseniiv
oh, that's my second post in this forum only, and it's cool to meet a namesake=) Frankly speaking, that's the first time I meet "arseniys" except me on the web) do you find this topic to be a proper one to be discussed&)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: arseniiv on November 12, 2008, 18:32
Oh, it's cool thing! But it's nothing anymore to say by me because it's too many words. My English isn't a thing that's good which I have. It will be better if we'll wait for some more people. I save myself only with Lingvo dictionary! :what:
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Ernestino on December 23, 2009, 15:08
Hi, English-speakers!
Frankly, I am a bit surprised why there has been no single posting for a whole year!
Are you so much tired of English?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Aleksey on December 23, 2009, 15:12
Means no one wants to use this language ;D
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Sagit on December 23, 2009, 15:24
Means no one wants to use this language ;D

Or everyone there are so shy men
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Ernestino on December 23, 2009, 15:30
Means no one wants to use this language ;D
Yeah, I guess there is too much English around   ::)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: arseniiv on December 23, 2009, 16:27
Is it as much as water in the Ocean?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Aleksey on December 23, 2009, 17:22
Is it as much as water in the Ocean?
:yes: perhaps even more.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Umnyashka on December 25, 2009, 12:59
I can't overcome the barrier of the English language! But I really want this! :what:  I have nobody, who can do practise with me! :wall:
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: arseniiv on December 25, 2009, 13:51
nobody, who
Сomma isn't needed here. :)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Rōmānus on December 25, 2009, 14:08
As if the period were the only problem here...
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Чайник777 on December 25, 2009, 14:14
As if the period were the only problem here...
Someone here is having her period? Is that a problem?  :???
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 14:21
As if the period were the only problem here...
eh? You mean the full stop, aye?

Someone here is having her period? Is that a problem?  :???
:( perv.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Rōmānus on December 25, 2009, 14:22
eh? You mean the full stop, aye?

Aye :)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 14:35
For how many years have you been studying English?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: arseniiv on December 25, 2009, 14:36
What's up with the full stop?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Rōmānus on December 25, 2009, 14:39
For how many years have you been studying English?

Let's see - on and off about 6 years, of which 4 years I did study it and for 2 years it had been the medium of instruction for me, thus I did not study English per se. Later on, I worked for an American boss for some 7 years
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 14:40
What's up with the full stop?
the sky, if you wanted to ask "что же не так с точкой?" then you ought to write "What's with the full stop thing?" (that's a GenAme variant of asking)
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Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 14:42
Let's see - on and off about 6 years, of which 4 years I did study it and for 2 years it had been the medium of instruction for me, thus it did not study English per se
Well for 6 years of your studies the result is more than satisfactory I assume. :)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Rōmānus on December 25, 2009, 14:45
Let's put it this way - I am content with what I have. There is always room for improvement, but I see no point in doing so. I have more than enough for my professional and personal needs. Anyway I am not too thrilled about English language which I find rather dull in comparison to other language. For me it is just a tool, an implement that helps accessing sources about other languages - nothing else
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 14:51
Perhaps you should consider every language by its beauty but not by its necessity. Indeed you have lots of improvements to make in your wrriten English :) (when you introduce a topic or a statement there's a phrase to put in which can be used with partial inversion :P)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Rōmānus on December 25, 2009, 14:53
Perhaps you should consider every language by its beauty

I do

Indeed you have lots of improvements to make in your wrriten English

Keep your personal opinion to yourself. Thank you
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 14:56
Keep your personal opinion to yourself. Thank you
I believe that here our points of view differ: I think that it's better to be corrected by someone than making the same mistake a few times.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Rōmānus on December 25, 2009, 15:02
I think that it's better to be corrected by someone

I think it is better not to correct anyone if you have not been specifically asked to do so. Anyway, I find it rather peculiar when non-natives fancy themselves being the "style-gurus" in English. Sorry, but I have my doubt about the quality of your advice. I heard the opinions of natives themselves and if there are some problems with my English, you are not qualified enough to find them (not to mention: to correct them)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 15:09
I find it rather peculiar when non-natives fancy themselves being the "style-gurus" in English.
Presumably you have met those so called 'style-gurus' and you think that I'm one of them, but I'm not. If you were offended by my message then I'm sincerely sorry.
I heard the opinions of natives themselves and if there are some problems with my English, you are not qualified enough to find them
I may say the same: I talk to natives almost everyday using skype/MSN, they correct my flaws and I don't make a fuss out of it.
Sorry, but I have my doubt about the quality of your advice.
Mind me showing where have I imposed my opinion on you?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: arseniiv on December 25, 2009, 15:11
the sky, if you wanted to ask "что же не так с точкой?" then you ought to write "What's with the full stop thing?" (that's a GenAme variant of asking)
Thanks. I'm glad anyway I've right used the article. Because I always fear to use it wrong.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 15:13
Thanks. I'm glad anyway I've right used the article. Because I always fear to use it wrong.

:UU:
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Rōmānus on December 25, 2009, 15:19
they correct my flaws

If I were you, then I could jump on this glaring example of word misuse here. Those foreigners certainly are not able to correct your flaws (=vices), just the mistakes. But I will not follow your bad example and I will leave your English alone

they correct my flaws and I don't make a fuss out of it.

You don't see logic problem here, do you? You are corrected by native speakers, while you (a non-native) try to correct me, unprompted - and you expect me to react to your pitiful attempts at corrections in the same way as you react to the correction by the natives? Who gave you the damn right to correct me and feel smug about it?

Mind me showing where I have imposed my opinion on you?

oh, shall I feel grateful for it? :o
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Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 15:29
I see no misuse there because the word flaw can be used to describe imperfections in something untangible.
You are corrected by native speakers, while you (a non-native) try to correct me, unprompted - and you expect me to react to your pitiful attempts at corrections in the same way as you react to the correction by the natives?
First of all watch your language. Yet again you perceive things in a strange way: I had no intentions in seeing the same reaction from you, I am trying to be friendly here while you are using offence for defending yourself (clever tactics they are).
I can, from this point, assume that you have doubts in the educational system of universities in Lithuania because you are constantly repeating that my English is at a low level, thank you.

oh, shall I feel grateful about it? :o
Care to use a translator for once to get a clear picture of WHAT am I trying to tell you?

Who gave you the damn right to correct me and feel smug about it?
Oh yes, of course! I keep having orgasms when I correct others, what a brilliant idea.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Rōmānus on December 25, 2009, 15:40
I see no misuse there because the word flaw can be used to describe imperfections in something untangible.

Try asking your friends next time, you might be surprised

I am trying to be friendly here

I asked you specifically not to correct me, yet you insist on doing just that. What is so "friendly" about it? :down: I would say it was rather downright hostile

I can, from this point, assume that you have doubts in the educational system of universities in Lithuania because you are constantly repeating that my English is at a low level, thank you.

Switching topic is a favorite tool of a seasoned demagogue. No, sweetheart, I do not "constantly repeat" anything about your English, I couldn't care less. There is a fundamental difference between somebody's ability to use English himself and to be proficient enough to be able to correct the others. Sorry, but you are not quite there, at least not for me. Your English might be ok, but that does not make you qualified to teach me English. Do you see my point?

Care to use a translator for once to get a clear picture of WHAT am I trying to tell you?

Care to read before hitting "reply" button?
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Keep your personal opinion to yourself. Thank you
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: arseniiv on December 25, 2009, 15:55
OMG. It is again!
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Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 15:56
Try asking your friends next time, you might be surprised
Aha. I know that it's good, others didn't complain so you fail.
I asked you specifically not to correct me, yet you insist on doing just that. What is so "friendly" about it? :down: I would say it was rather downright hostile
From the point you wrote that sentence I did not correct you, or will you say that I did?
witching topic is a favorite tool of a seasoned demagogue. No, sweetheart, I do not "constantly repeat" anything about your English, I couldn't care less. There is a fundamental difference between somebody's ability to use English himself and to be proficient enough to be able to correct the others. Sorry, but you are not quite there, at least not for me. Your English might be ok, but that does not make your qualified to teach me English. Do you see my point?
Amazing, I'm a seasoned demagogue, I'm more than amused.
I don't care how you judge my English, I know that it's above than average, I get normal grades and lecturers are fine with it. I may not be qualified but I can I'm studying English at university and you're not (I can recall that your main was Economics, but not English Philology), that's the differences and that's the point.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Rōmānus on December 25, 2009, 16:11
I know that it's good, others didn't complain so you fail.

I fail at what?! :o I suggested you ask your friends about the correct usage of word "flaw", nothing else. Shall I subtitle my texts in English for you if google-translate is failing you and you do not comprehend the easiest things?

I don't care how you judge my English, I know that it's above than average

Bla-bla-bla. Next step would be to start measuring penises. Chill out, man. Specially for you a small musical circuit-breaker :green:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIrCFrFpHvw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIrCFrFpHvw</a>

I'm studying English at university

Unfortunately it does not save you from embarrassing mistakes:
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I can recall that your main was Economics

It is called major, not "main", sweetheart. Just trying to be "friendly" ;)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 16:17
I suggested you ask your friends about the correct usage of word "flaw", nothing else. Shall I subtitle my texts in English for you if google-translate is failing you and you do not comprehend the easiest things?
I did ask them, they reply was: yes, it can be used like that in that sentence.

It is called major, not "main", sweetheart. Just trying to be "friendly" ;)
There are no majors in Lithuania, only mains, same applies to Britain. Thanks for sweetheart, it really warms up my heart <3.

Bla-bla-bla. Next step would be to start measuring penises. Chill out, man. Specially for you a small musical circuit-breaker :green:
But I don't want to measure my penis, I'm fine with it. Btw, I love that song.
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Post by: arseniiv on December 25, 2009, 16:18
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Roman, I see you really do something unpleasant. i℧. I have no words to say it normally (I mean whether you see you're using some off-handed words).

I love that song
And I.
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Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 16:24
Roman, I see you really do something unpleasant.
It's his style to troll others! :UU: :D
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Post by: arseniiv on December 25, 2009, 16:31
It's his style to troll others! :UU: :D
I saw. But I didn't see these.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Rōmānus on December 25, 2009, 16:41
There are no majors in Lithuania, only mains

Just for your information: "mains" are in the socket, not at the university. probably, you are just too smart to know such things
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Post by: Rōmānus on December 25, 2009, 16:43
It's his style to troll others!

It is your style to "friendly" correct the people, even if they asked you not to do so. How is it called? Surprise, surprise - it is trolling
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Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 16:45
There are no majors in Lithuania, only mains

Just for your information: "mains" are in the socket, not at the university. probably, you are just too smart to know such things
:-[ you're right.
It's his style to troll others!

It is your style to "friendly" correct the people, even if they asked you not to do so. How is it called? Surprise, surprise - it is trolling
YAY I'M A TROLL, thank you very much.
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Post by: arseniiv on December 25, 2009, 16:54
Let us be still! What is the weather? I see snowing if sun rise now.

Correct me, anybody, please. I feel my past sentences are wry.
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Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 17:03
arseniiv лучше: Lets calm down! How's the weather? здесть можно по0русски, а то смысла не понял :-[
..., anyone, ... . I think my previous sentence is wrong.

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И сколько невежества у человека, что всё время использует грубейшие слова. Вроде человек он адекватный, а реакция как у (вырезано). (невольно напрашивается вопрос, как такой неуравновешенный человек мог получить права модератора причём глобального?) Или ментальность у людей настолько разная, что любая попытка сделать что-нить хорошего воспринимаются в штыки, а?
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Post by: arseniiv on December 25, 2009, 17:30
I see snowing if sun rise now.
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Я увижу снегопад, если (каким-то чудом; оно уже село) встанет солнце.

How's the weather?
I think different. ;D
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Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 17:39
Я увижу снегопад, если (каким-то чудом; оно уже село) встанет солнце.
I'll see the snow fall if the sun shows up.
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Post by: arseniiv on December 25, 2009, 17:44
It isn't interesting...
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Post by: Aleksey on December 25, 2009, 17:53
After the rain snow melted so it's messy here. :(
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Post by: arseniiv on December 25, 2009, 18:09
Awww. :what:
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Post by: jazzykowa on January 10, 2010, 21:00
since it's the purpose of this topic - improving our English  - then why the hell aren't we to correct each other? Let go of your pride in this case, otherwise you'll see no improvement whatsoever.

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Post by: Andrei N on January 11, 2010, 12:21
This morning I did not recognise a person I know standig 5 steps b4 me, and I should have greeted him. Now I am sure he thinks I am insane. Have you ever had such experience?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Aleksey on January 11, 2010, 12:45
then why the hell aren't we to correct each other? Let go of your pride in this case, otherwise you'll see no improvement whatsoever.
Some people like quarrels over nothing. A sad person he is because of his pride...
This morning I did not recognise a person I know standig 5 steps b4 me, and I should have greeted him. Now I am sure he thinks I am insane. Have you ever had such experience?
Yes, due to my poor sight I often fail to recognise others.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: jazzykowa on January 11, 2010, 19:55
Some people like quarrels over nothing. A sad person he is because of his pride..
It's not really over nothing, it is over self-esteem, I guess. We all are that annoying sometimes, because we fail to see our mistake. But it's actually no big deal.

This morning I did not recognise a person I know standig 5 steps b4 me, and I should have greeted him. Now I am sure he thinks I am insane. Have you ever had such experience?
You can always excuse yourself by saying you were hungover ^^
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Karakurt on April 21, 2010, 13:44
Quote from: Aleksey
Hi, I'm a duck. I don't care about sex or COD, I just want your bread.
What's COD? A fish or 'Call Of Duty' ? :)
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 13:57
'Call Of Duty'
:yes:
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 14:29
What's COD? A fish or 'Call Of Duty' ? :)

I should have thought it meant something like ZOG. :D
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 15:09
Didn't you know that ZOG and this forum's admin signed a treaty in which both sides are willing to cooperate in the extermination of people who dislike jews and other people?
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 15:57
Oh, indeed? But which admin do you mean, the current or the authentic one?

I would be quite safe if only my attitude towards Jews was at issue. I don't mind Jews. At school I used to be on friendly terms with a lad who suddenly turned out to be a Jew (it was unexpected even for himself); I learned a couple of Jewish phrases from him: ma nishma-beseder and the like.

But as for "other people", I'm really not sure. As a matter of fact I belong to "other people". :uzhos: What are we to do, Koté?
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 16:06
We must fight for our rights! ¡Viva la revolución! And by others I mean other people who have issues (anti-ukranian, ...)
But! I don't really care about person's nationality as long as their attitudes towards me and my country are neutral.
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 16:11
I see I misunderstood you. All the better, because so far I don't have any negative prejudices towards nationalities. Now that it's clear we are not in danger of immediate extermination (at least by the admins), one can relax and criticise their approach. After all, to exterminate people it's a kind of sin, isn't it?
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 16:13
isn't it?
It's a genocide. Or mass murders.
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 16:15
I don't approve of mass murders, I should say.
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 16:16
We should reprehend our admin for being inclined to mass murders. Perhaps he'll cancel the treaty.
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 16:20
We can try ;D But he'll refuse. He's very evil, you know? :D
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 16:32
I'll try.

Dear Admin (the one who is set upon mass murders I mean),

I do reprehend you for your inhuman approach. One should not get mixed up in mass murders. Did you ever think that innocent people can suffer? The posthumous rehabilitation is little consolation for them. And if a person is really averse to a nation, in first place he is to be admonished that Jews or Ucrainians are quite the same human beings as he is and that it's most stupid to discrimitate people according to the language they spead or which country they were born in. But if we ever start murdering each other, we are not likely to solve the problem. The people will just hate another people, and it all leads nowhere.

Sincerely yours,
Kvas.
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 16:40
Mind me correcting it for you? ;D
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 16:41
Mind me correcting it for you? ;D

It goes without saying!
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 16:43
Is that so? :P I hope he is reading this message of yours.
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 16:45
Is that so?

Uhm. As a matter of fact it goes without saying that I don't mind.
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 16:55
Then I misunderstood :D

Dear Admin (the one who is set upon mass murders I mean),

I do condemn you for your inhuman approaches. One should not get involved in mass murders. Have you ever thought that innocent people can suffer? The posthumous rehabilitation is a little consolation for them. And if a person is really averse to a nation, firstly he is to be admonished by the fact Jews or Ucrainians are the same human beings as he is and it's most stupid thing to discriminate people by their language they speak or in what country were they born. But if we ever start killing each other we won't solve this problem. People will just hate other people, and it all leads to nowhere.

Yours sincerely,
Kvas.

I hope other grammarnazis won't pluck out my eyes for this :D
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on April 21, 2010, 17:11
Inglish is my naytive langage. Hello. London is the capitle of greate Britain. My fatother is a Janitor.
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 17:21
Inglish is my naytive langage. Hello. London is the capitle of greate Britain. My fatother is a Janitor.
And you're a gay-mer? :D
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Post by: LOSTaz on April 21, 2010, 17:49
Wow,it's quite funny here.
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 21:57
Alexey, thanks a lot, comrade! You know, English is not my native tongue, and I'm alway glad when I can improve it a bit. So if you ever care to correct me, I'd only be grateful. :yes:

As for my petition, now it's not only Humanistic and Wise, but also Eloquent, and I hope it can move even callous members of ZOG. ;up:
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 21:59
Wow,it's quite funny here.

Personally I don't find anything funny about massacres. :down:
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 22:05
Алексей Гринь, I'm afraid there are quite a few spelling mistakes in your post. I hope you won't mind my corrections.

English is my naytive language. Hello. London is the capital of greate Britain. My fatother (?) is a Janitor.

But I'm not a native speaker myself, so you'd better wait for others to comment.

By the way, do you live in London?
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 22:27
Alexey, thanks a lot, comrade! You know, English is not my native tongue, and I'm alway glad when I can improve it a bit. So if you ever care to correct me, I'd only be grateful. :yes:

As for my petition, now it's not only Humanistic and Wise, but also Eloquent, and I hope it can move even callous members of ZOG. ;up:
Well.. it isn't my mother tongue either :) When I can I'll try to correct your mistakes.
But I'm not a native speaker myself, so you'd better wait for others to comment.

By the way, do you live in London?
He's a troll (remember the thread where someone posted few definitions of this word? it meant a homosexual as well :D So Grin fails once again.)
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 22:30
He's a troll

Is he? Such a pity. I thought he could tell something curious about the Houses of Parliament or Westminster Abbey or the Big Ben.
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on April 21, 2010, 22:31
Алексей Гринь, I'm afraid there are quite a few spelling mistakes in your post. I hope you won't mind my corrections.
I was kind of kidding, actually I know English better than anyone here including regn and iopq!

By the way, do you live in London?
A little tip: my father uses a mop.

He's a troll (remember the thread where someone posted few definitions of this word? it meant a homosexual as well :D So Grin fails once again.)
Remind me please
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 22:50
Remind me please
I don't remember the exact name of that damned thread :-[ but it won't change back your sexual orientation.
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on April 21, 2010, 23:13
but it won't change back your sexual orientation.
Well, yuo've caught me so it's time for me to come out dem Rumpelkammer: i'm bisexual! I hope daddy won't be ashamed of me...

(http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/6/6/3/0/310366/pg_150211885.png)

Since the issue appears to have been solved, let's continue to practice our perfect English. You didn't question my answer: my father is a janitor and he uses a mop. Where am I from? ;D
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 23:15
Where am I from? ;D
What a stupid question :D How can I know?
Since the issue appears to have been solved, let's continue to practice our perfect English.
let's continue to practice our perfect English.
our perfect English.
perfect English.
perfect
MY perfect English.
Ok.
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on April 21, 2010, 23:22
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our perfect English.
Цитата: Алексей Гринь от Сегодня в 23:13
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perfect English.
Цитата: Алексей Гринь от Сегодня в 23:13
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perfect
MY perfect English.
Ok.
English is perfect regardless of one's skills :\

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Where am I from? ;D
What a stupid question :D How can I know?
It's a linguistic puzzle... Pretty primitive, just look it up in the dictionary
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 23:24
I was kind of kidding

I'd say we've had a rather jocular talk. ;) But I admit you have puzzled me with the mop of your father.
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on April 21, 2010, 23:25
But I admit you have puzzled me with the mop of your father.
You've solved it? The keyword is JANITOR :)
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 23:27
So a man can give birth to a child? :o
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 23:29
Well, yuo've caught me so it's time for me to come out dem Rumpelkammer: i'm bisexual!

If you're as old as the chap on your avatar, it doesn't matter any more.
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 23:31
English is perfect regardless of one's skills :\
Lies. English is mine. Get your own English.
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 23:33
You've solved it?

I'm afraid I'm too stupid today.  :-[
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on April 21, 2010, 23:34
I don't know, maybe British janitors like mops as much as my father does...

If you're as old as the chap on your avatar, it doesn't matter any more.
To love all ages are subservient!..

I'm afraid I'm too stupid today.
Oh gosh http://lingvo.yandex.ru/en?st_translate=on&text=janitor&from=fx3&encyc_redir=on
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 23:35
The keyword is JANITOR :)
Jerusalem! you're a jew!
aka USA.
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Post by: Juif Eternel on April 21, 2010, 23:37
my father is a janitor and he uses a mop. Where am I from? ;D

Maybe from a bucket with suds?
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 23:38
Maybe from a bucket with suds?
Jerries are not allowed to talk here. Go to Deutche thread :(
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on April 21, 2010, 23:39
Here comes my fellow Jew!

Jerries are not allowed to talk here
Except Norddeutschen of course (me)
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Post by: Juif Eternel on April 21, 2010, 23:39
Aha, you mean you're from der Schweiz?
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Post by: Juif Eternel on April 21, 2010, 23:41
Here comes my fellow Jew!

Don't be so happy. The Jew moves on. Bye.
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 23:41
The mind boggles. Bad jews.
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 23:42
The Jew moves on. Bye.

C'est dommage.
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Post by: Juif Eternel on April 21, 2010, 23:44
Jerries are not allowed to talk here. Go to Deutche thread :(

Don't be so naughty, otherwise the Deutsche thread'll come and get you.
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 23:45
Don't be so naughty, otherwise the Deutsche thread'll come and get you.
Russians came on them in 1945. So I'm fearless now.
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on April 21, 2010, 23:46
Aha, you mean you're from der Schweiz?
Aus dem Königreich Preußen. Und Sie?
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 23:46
Aus dem Königreich Preußen. Und Sie?
Fokin' Fritzes; JUDEN DEUTCHE RAUS
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Post by: Juif Eternel on April 21, 2010, 23:48
C'est dommage.

Mais pourquoi? Vouz avais votre M.Grigne.
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Post by: Yitzik on April 21, 2010, 23:49
Yeah, rather a funny talk you've got here, dudes...
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Post by: Juif Eternel on April 21, 2010, 23:49
Aha, you mean you're from der Schweiz?
Aus dem Königreich Preußen. Und Sie?

I'm from the Free State of Bayern.
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 23:49
Fokin' Fritzes;

Evidently my appeal to the admin took effect. Otherwise he should have killed you.
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 23:52
Mais pourquoi?

Je lis volontiers ce que vous écrivez. :)

@ Alexey: :P
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 23:52
Mais pourquoi? Vouz avais votre M.Grigne.
Frenchtards shall be sent to the gaswagons.
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on April 21, 2010, 23:54
I'm from the Free State of Bayern.
Hmm... That's why I hated you from the beginning... I KNEW. And I also supposed that was you who flooded the forum with guro (forget that nick). Am I right?
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 23:55
You're adorable when you're trying to hate somebody.
Old people burning, old people burning / Put your hands up
Is it about you? :D
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on April 21, 2010, 23:56
Is it about you?
That's from some pervert Canadian song
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Post by: Aleksey on April 21, 2010, 23:58
It's from some pervert Canadian song
They are not Canadians anymore. They got americanised by the fat bastards from the south. :(
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Post by: Квас on April 21, 2010, 23:58
Hmm...

What's wrong with Bayern? I must be missing the point.  :donno:
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Post by: Juif Eternel on April 22, 2010, 00:00
Hmm... That's why I hated you from the beginning... I KNEW. And I also supposed that was you who flooded the forum with guro (forget that nick). Am I right?

Don't get soo excited. It's dangerous for your age.  :no:
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Post by: Juif Eternel on April 22, 2010, 00:02
What's wrong with Bayern? I must be missing the point.  :donno:

He is mad because his Preußen exists no more, but our Bayern lives on and prosper!
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on April 22, 2010, 00:02
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Old people burning, old people burning / Put your hands up
Is it about you? :D
From herE:

1:30
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk</a>

They are not Canadians anymore. They got americanised by the fat bastards from the south. :(
Check tihs out

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWQf13B8epw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWQf13B8epw</a>

What's wrong with Bayern? I must be missing the point.  :donno:
They are jerks.

He is mad because his Preußen exists no more, but our Bayern lives on and prosper!
We are like Jews now... Preußen exists everywhere we live!
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Post by: Aleksey on April 22, 2010, 00:05
We are like Jews now...
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We are jews.
fxd.
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Post by: Juif Eternel on April 22, 2010, 00:11
We are like Jews now... Preußen exists everywhere we live!

And I'm twice as much. I live everywhere and the Free State of Bayern exists.

Besides you've stolen the name. The real Prussians are extinct since a couple of centuries.
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on April 22, 2010, 00:17
Hitler war sydlænder, to'm bispel.

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The real Prussians are extinct since a couple of centuries.
Southerners' bullscite.
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Post by: LOSTaz on April 22, 2010, 08:55
And what's with that puzzle?A.Grin,I've looked your keyword up in my dictionaries(Collins',Longman) but there're no prompts to solve it.So I give up.Where are your daddy from?Or Juif... has just solved it and the answer is Preussen.
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Post by: Juif Eternel on April 22, 2010, 21:27
No, Preußen was not my suggestion.

One of the Russian equivalents of the word janitor is "швейцар", so my guess was the place in question were Switzerland. But Grin' neither confirmed it, nor called it wrong.   :donno:
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Post by: LOSTaz on April 22, 2010, 22:02
I think you're right.приврaтник-швeйцaр,in fact,you've solved the puzzle.Look forward to next one
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Post by: LOSTaz on April 22, 2010, 22:05
I wonder why швeйцaр has such meaning in Russian.Are they believed to be just servants or how?Are there cognates in other languages?
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Post by: Juif Eternel on April 22, 2010, 22:18
It seems I've read somewhere that doormen were called in Russia schweitzers because of their uniform: they looked like Swiss guard.
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on May 28, 2010, 12:39
I would like to continue our heart-to-heart talk.

What American accent do you have?
http://www.gotoquiz.com/what_american_accent_do_you_have

Mine is:
(http://s40.radikal.ru/i088/1005/e1/4d2d8114298b.jpg)
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Post by: LOSTaz on May 28, 2010, 14:10
According to the quiz, I speak like people in the American Northeast(NY, Jersey etc.) do. Although, I believe my pronunciation is more British than American.
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Post by: Чайник777 on May 28, 2010, 15:13
Well, I could pretend having a fancy Inland North accent (whatever that means),
but frankfully speaking, I've got the thickest Russian accent you'll ever hear.
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Post by: Сергій on May 28, 2010, 15:34
my result is Northeast.
actually I sound more like the Estuary variety of British :P
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Post by: LOSTaz on May 28, 2010, 15:44
Kettle777, I wonder why you are learning Assyraic?Do you  know just classical Syraic or also one of modern?
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Post by: Чайник777 on May 28, 2010, 16:43
I wonder why you are learning Assyrian?
Well, several years ago I received a proposal from one of our forum members (antbez) to visit a free lesson of this language here in Saint-Petersburg and I thought it would be stupid to turn it down.  So I just used the opportunity and didn't give up learning (although I am very far from mastering the language).
Now I think the standard Assyrian language is probably the easiest of all living Semitic languages to learn. (But the problem is that it's slowly dying out).
As for Syriac, it is certainly  a language of interest for me, although I do not devote much time to study it.
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Post by: LOSTaz on May 28, 2010, 17:17
You think it's easy? As far as I know it has more developed verb system(lots of tenses) and other odds. Can you recommend sth to learn it. May be, some basic courses?
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Post by: Чайник777 on May 28, 2010, 18:01
verb system(lots of tenses)
It's easier than in Spanish, I think. And Spanish is considered an easy language to learn.
And these tenses are similar to those of English.
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Post by: iopq on May 31, 2010, 09:22
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/856/accentk.png)

like, duh, totally
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Post by: LOSTaz on May 31, 2010, 09:46
I wonder if there similar quizes referring to British dialects.
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Post by: autolyk on May 31, 2010, 09:49
I have almost the same accent as Alexey Grin has, but it is more Philadelphian than Northeastern :)
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Your accent is as Philadelphian as a cheesestisk!
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Post by: iopq on May 31, 2010, 10:14
Surely, you mean cheesesteak?
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Post by: autolyk on May 31, 2010, 10:20
I’m puzzled too, it is a quoting... :donno:
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Post by: autolyk on May 31, 2010, 11:19
Sorry, iopq, you were absolutely right.
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Post by: SkyWind on June 9, 2010, 10:32
According to the quiz I speak as I'm from Philadelphia.By the way what distinctive features(in phonetics,vocabulary) each of these dialects has? :???
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Post by: Versteher on June 10, 2010, 13:13
let's speak, though I am often loath to do it..

How was it allow'd to pass that Ye can that vile tongue?
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Post by: Aleksey on June 10, 2010, 13:21
Your Result: The Inland North
But I'm pro-British, so that test fails.
I like 'ow the 'h' is dropped,
and I 'ate when there's 'at instead of 'ot.
'Tis b'cause I sing 'Rule Britannia!'
And I never get bor't!
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Post by: Versteher on June 10, 2010, 13:24
What American accent do you have?
Your Result: The Northeast

Judging by how you talk you are probably from north Jersey, New York City, Connecticut or Rhode Island. Chances are, if you are from New York City (and not those other places) people would probably be able to tell if they actually heard you speak.
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Post by: Aleksey on June 10, 2010, 13:25
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XPHL4Q86t4" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XPHL4Q86t4</a>
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Post by: Versteher on June 10, 2010, 13:28
a henchman's way?
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Post by: Aleksey on June 10, 2010, 13:30
a henchman's way?
Is that so? ;D
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Post by: Versteher on June 10, 2010, 13:31
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what is so?
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Post by: Aleksey on June 10, 2010, 13:34
what is so?
Эт в значении "Вы серьёзно?"
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Post by: Versteher on June 10, 2010, 13:38
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am I?
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Post by: Aleksey on June 10, 2010, 13:40
am I?
Wha?
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Post by: Versteher on June 10, 2010, 13:42
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methinks, one should start some other topic..

Which English-writing author do Ye like the most?
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Post by: Aleksey on June 10, 2010, 13:45
Strange and typical as it may seem, but be it Dickens. And what 'bout you?
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Post by: Versteher on June 10, 2010, 13:51
it would be assum'd as a wonder, yet I have never read a letter of Herr Dickens...

For the nonse my favourite is Geoffrey Chaucer...

Those I have read besides were great, and I shoun't write them, having forgotten one.
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Post by: Juif Eternel on June 10, 2010, 21:55
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methinks, one should start some other topic..

You'd better do. Because this topic was meant for those, who speak English, and not some kind of a barbarial lingo.
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Post by: Aleksey on June 10, 2010, 21:59
"Off with your head!" rule can help, I s'ppose.
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Post by: Kinkajou on June 10, 2010, 22:22
For the nonse my favourite is Geoffrey Chaucer...

As far as I know, Chaucer wrote in so-called Middle English. Did you read his original works or ones adapted to modern English?
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Post by: Versteher on June 11, 2010, 11:33
As far as I know, Chaucer wrote in so-called Middle English. Did you read his original works or ones adapted to modern English? , quoth Kinkajou;

no, well, I dare say that the so-call'd Modern English is a far better tongue that the modern newspeak..
Answering the question, I will say that I read the text as it was written, and get get the sublime linguistic pleasure doing it.
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Post by: HackOnnerDib on June 11, 2010, 12:22
And my favourite is Frent Herbert with his "Dune".=)


ps
Why you are writing "'bout" instead of "about" and "s'ppose" instead of "suppose"?
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Post by: iopq on June 11, 2010, 12:55
And my favourite is Frank Herbert with his "Dune".=)
:yes:
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Post by: HackOnnerDib on June 11, 2010, 13:07
Sorry, I misprinted. :)

ps
How I can edit my message?=(
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Post by: Aleksey on June 11, 2010, 13:15
Why you are writing "'bout" instead of "about" and "s'ppose" instead of "suppose"?
I often speak to Southerners and Scousers, so I tend to imitate their variants :D
Seriously: a Scouser talks like that (at least 2 Scousers whom I happen to know talk in a such manner)
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Post by: Alchemist on June 11, 2010, 16:37
My favourite author is John R. R. Tolkien :-)
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Post by: autolyk on June 11, 2010, 16:45
The writing "’bout" instead "about" is also a feature of the English poetry (dropping out of syllable to keep a metre).
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Post by: Kinkajou on June 11, 2010, 17:36
Answering the question, I will say that I read the text as it was written, and get get the sublime linguistic pleasure doing it.
That's great. You know, we studied his work "The Canterbury Tales" as a part of the course of the history of Eng. And it was very interesting to read it, so to say, like Englishmen did in XIII-XIV centuries. That's why I asked in what variant you had read it.

Well, as for the topic - can't say exactly who is the favourite, but now I'm reading Arthur C. Clarke and like him very very much. :)
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Post by: HackOnnerDib on June 11, 2010, 18:26
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The writing "’bout" instead "about" is also a feature of the English poetry (dropping out of syllable to keep a metre).
As "берег" and "брег" in Russian? Hm... is there any rules, or I can drop out any letter?
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I often speak to Southerners and Scousers, so I tend to imitate their variants :D
Speak or write? I think if somebody will say me something like that...i can't understand it=)
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Post by: autolyk on June 11, 2010, 19:36
As "берег" and "брег" in Russian?
It is alike.
is there any rules, or I can drop out any letter?
You cannot. There were not any rules but some habits. As a rule syntactic words were shortened: about = ’bout, against = ’gainst, over = o’er.
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Post by: HackOnnerDib on June 11, 2010, 20:05
Hm...thanks! Now I think that I can drop out letters that I don't say(that is not hearable). For example, in the word "about": "a" is not hearable because of big accent on the "ou".
Over - I hear as "ouer","oer", and I can drop out the "v".

So... It is possible to write "ga'den" instead of "garden"? "for'cast" insted of "forecast"?
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Post by: Aleksey on June 11, 2010, 20:20
Speak or write? I think if somebody will say me something like that...i can't understand it=)
I speak to them more than I write.
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Post by: autolyk on June 11, 2010, 20:31
Now I think that I can drop out letters that I don't say(that is not hearable).
No you can’t drop out any letter you like. The shortening was according to the archaic/dialect pronunсiation.
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Post by: Квас on June 11, 2010, 20:34
And how is o'er pronounced?
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Post by: autolyk on June 11, 2010, 20:41
And how is o'er pronounced?
[o:] :)
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Post by: Квас on June 11, 2010, 21:11
Thanks, autolyk. And how does the apostrophe affect the pronunciation of verb forms in -'d?
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Post by: autolyk on June 11, 2010, 21:16
An apostrophe in "ed-forms" shows that the vowel "e" is not pronunciated.
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Post by: Квас on June 11, 2010, 21:30
An apostrophe in "ed-forms" shows that the vowel "e" is not pronunciated.

But it's hardly ever pronounced anyway, isn't it? I don't see any difference between called and call'd.
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Post by: autolyk on June 11, 2010, 21:39
The vowel "e" is pronounced after affricates and sibilants and also after t&d. An apostrophe indicates that it is not.
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Post by: Juif Eternel on June 11, 2010, 22:07
The vowel "e" is pronounced after affricates and sibilants and also after t&d. An apostrophe indicates that it is not.

So how would you pronounce t'd of d'd, e.g. in such words as abort'd or end'd?
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Post by: autolyk on June 11, 2010, 22:17
So how would you pronounce t'd of d'd, e.g. in such words as abort'd or end'd?
I’m not a native speaker and I should pronounce these letter combinations by two ways according to a metre: [t]/[d] or [tid]/[did].
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Post by: Квас on June 11, 2010, 23:38
The vowel "e" is pronounced after affricates and sibilants

In poetry scilicet? Thanks, I didn't know it.
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Post by: autolyk on June 12, 2010, 08:46
Sorry Quase, it was the rules of the 600th scilicet. :-[
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Post by: Versteher on July 4, 2010, 12:17
alas! all masters are absent, whilst I'm present at the Forum.. Who is it possible to exist, when such a tragedie happeneth?
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Post by: Aleksey on July 4, 2010, 12:41
Your 'poetic and old-fashioned' English annoys people; would you be so kind and stop being an unfunny clown?
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Post by: O on July 4, 2010, 13:03
Your 'poetic and old-fashioned' English annoys people; would you be so kind and stop being an unfunny clown?

Personally, I like the English of Shakespear’s times… or it likes me so!
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Post by: Чайник777 on July 4, 2010, 13:13
alas! all masters are absent, whilst I'm present at the Forum.. Who is it possible to exist, when such a tragedie happeneth?
Wha' kind've tragedy you're talking aboot?
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Post by: Aleksey on July 4, 2010, 13:19
Personally, I like the English of Shakespear’s times… or it likes me so!
Have you ever read Shakespeare in original? (that is a version of his times) Compare Shakespeare's style to Versteher's 'stylish writings' and you're going to get a shock of pseudo-Shakespeare'ish Versteher's style.
It's a disgraceful act of trying to imitate the styles of the Great Ones for one should create his own.
Wha' kind've tragedy you're talking aboot?
That no one seems to appreciate his 'unique' writings? Take Wulfilla for example: his verses are much more original than this lame excuse for a copypaster.
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Post by: Versteher on July 4, 2010, 14:00
Alexey, I have warn'd thee.

I shall never more heed to trash thou makest.

Begone, untermensch.
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on July 4, 2010, 14:49
I’m not a native speaker and I should pronounce these letter combinations by two ways according to a metre: [t]/[d] or [tid]/[did].
:-\
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Post by: iopq on July 4, 2010, 14:50
Alexey, I have warn'd thee.

I shall never more heed to trash thou makest.

Begone, untermensch.

How does one make trash? Well of course, by consuming contents of some sort of package and then instead of throwing that package into the garbage bin throwing it wherever. Now what I'm trying to understand is how Aleksey made trash. Please help me out here.

Thanks in advance,
iopq
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Post by: Aleksey on July 4, 2010, 14:57
Now what I'm trying to understand is how Aleksey made trash. Please help me out here.
Because I pointed at Versteher's awful English. ;D
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Post by: Versteher on July 4, 2010, 14:57
The word "trash", leading its its meaning's origin from the name of carelessly thrown package, being at a street, meaning thus something
a) useless,
b) ugly,
might be will amplicable to many notions that are akin so to those packages.
I have demt Alexey be just commensurate to such word.
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Post by: autolyk on July 4, 2010, 15:00
:-\
Sorry, "but" certainly.
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Post by: Juif Eternel on July 4, 2010, 18:12
Personally, I like the English of Shakespear’s times… or it likes me so!
Have you ever read Shakespeare in original? (that is a version of his times) Compare Shakespeare's style to Versteher's 'stylish writings' and you're going to get a shock of pseudo-Shakespeare'ish Versteher's style.
It's a disgraceful act of trying to imitate the styles of the Great Ones for one should create his own.
Wha' kind've tragedy you're talking aboot?
That no one seems to appreciate his 'unique' writings? Take Wulfilla for example: his verses are much more original than this lame excuse for a copypaster.

Aleksey, this time you're absolutely right. And it would'v'been better for Versteher first to master an ordinary modern English instead of trying to clumsily imitate something he has just a vague notion of.

What kind of English is this:

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The word "trash", leading its its meaning's origin from the name of carelessly thrown package, being at a street, meaning thus something
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Post by: Versteher on July 4, 2010, 18:13
Juif Eternel, why clumsily?

How, the hell, do You know, whether vague or precise my knowledge be?
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Post by: Juif Eternel on July 4, 2010, 18:18
I quated you above: "leading its meaning's origin", "carelessly thrown package, being at a street".
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Post by: Aleksey on July 4, 2010, 18:20
What kind of English is this:
Google translator is a good translator.
Juif Eternel, why clumsily?
I'm not Juif, but I can answer your question.
To write in the English of, for example, the 19th century, you have to have the proficiency of a native speaker, otherwise you're going to be in a bad situation. Everyone will make fun of you and your style...
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Post by: Juif Eternel on July 4, 2010, 18:24
You see Versteher, even a non-Juif can see it.    ;D
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Post by: autolyk on July 4, 2010, 18:26
Everyone will make fun of you and your style...
Maybe it is just a game :)
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Post by: Aleksey on July 4, 2010, 18:37
Maybe it is just a game :)
I really doubt it. He can't even make normal English sentences.
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Post by: Хворост on July 4, 2010, 18:39
Ye Olde Butcherede Englishe (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe) thou hath doeth thee livest knoweth ye art hahaha
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Post by: O on July 4, 2010, 18:41
Have you ever read Shakespeare in original? (that is a version of his times)

Certainly.

Compare Shakespeare's style to Versteher's 'stylish writings' and you're going to get a shock of pseudo-Shakespeare'ish Versteher's style.
It's a disgraceful act of trying to imitate the styles of the Great Ones for one should create his own.

Let us wait and see. Perhaps Versteher will excel Sh.

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Post by: Aleksey on July 4, 2010, 18:54
Certainly.
You're a genius then. I'm happy for you.
Let us wait and see. Perhaps Versteher will excel Sh.
Right, and Dickens was a novice when he wrote his Pickwick Papers.
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Post by: olhol on July 4, 2010, 19:10
Well, Obama is a person, which does not make me feel any emotions. I would like to say that he's guided by someone above, a well-planned scenario :)
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Post by: Juif Eternel on July 4, 2010, 19:39
Have you ever read Shakespeare in original? (that is a version of his times)
Compare Shakespeare's style to Versteher's 'stylish writings' and you're going to get a shock of pseudo-Shakespeare'ish Versteher's style.
It's a disgraceful act of trying to imitate the styles of the Great Ones for one should create his own.

О, it seems I've never written this, or am I so forgetful already?    :o
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Post by: Aleksey on July 4, 2010, 19:49
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Juif is my clone.
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Post by: Hellerick on July 4, 2010, 20:21
Google translator is a good translator.

Good translator is Google translator.

По-моему, звучит.
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Post by: Aleksey on July 4, 2010, 20:24
По-моему, звучит.
:yes:
But it's a good translator anyway.
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Post by: Hellerick on July 4, 2010, 20:33
Well, Obama is a person, which does not make me feel any emotions.

Somehow I don't feel anything about him either.

Bush was funny at least.
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Post by: iopq on July 7, 2010, 14:58
The word "trash", leading its its meaning's origin from the name of carelessly thrown package, being at a street
OK, now I'm REALLY confused.  :D
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Post by: Квас on July 20, 2010, 19:57
untermensch

I'm truly disillusioned with our V.  :down:
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Post by: Hébus on August 4, 2010, 02:08
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Somehow I don't feel anything about him either.
Bush was funny at least.

True that! True that!  :yes:
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Post by: Versteher on August 10, 2010, 12:20
I'm truly disillusioned with our V. , quoth Quasus


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Quase, I have begg'd my pardon for that.
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Post by: Karakurt on August 17, 2010, 01:27
Do you mix up 'conscious' and 'conscience' ? Any troubles with pronunciation?
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Post by: Эльмари on August 18, 2010, 21:14
Hmm, interesting question! Words are, really, very similar in pronunciation, but when we say "conscience", we pronouce letter "n", whereas in the word "conscious" there's no letter "n"  ::)
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Post by: Versteher on August 20, 2010, 15:08
What joke Ye like the most, Ye would narrate here to us all?
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Post by: Juif Eternel on August 20, 2010, 22:36
Ai laik most over the river Kwai, laik ai.
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Post by: Versteher on August 26, 2010, 13:46
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hm, 'tis really strange: when V. hath a rare urge to speak English in the way Ye might accept it, no one seems to support this urge.
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Post by: Xico on August 26, 2010, 13:51
What joke Ye like the most, Ye would narrate here to us all?

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There once was an old man of Esser,
Whose knowledge grew lesser and lesser,
It at last grew so small
He knew nothing at all
And now he's a college professor.
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Post by: Versteher on August 26, 2010, 14:00
I thank You, Xico:

a cat won't leave a cat in lurch, will he?
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Post by: autolyk on August 26, 2010, 15:16
On the wise men of Gotham
(cast with Xico’s limerick)
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Tell me no more of Gotham Fools,
Or of their eels in little pools,
Which they were told were drowning;
Nor of their carts drawn up on high
When King John’s men were standing by,
To keep a wood from browning.
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Post by: Karakurt on August 26, 2010, 15:22
To keep a wood from browning.
Didn't get it.
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Post by: autolyk on August 26, 2010, 15:28
"Browning" means "roasting" in this case.
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Post by: Karakurt on August 26, 2010, 15:35
I mean the whole sense, which is usually at the end.
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Post by: huaxia on August 26, 2010, 15:53
I had no idea there were different American accents. Some British people claim that there is no any accent in the English language. But I don't think so. Btw, they also say 'Russian accent sounds sexy'... Ha-ha.
My major is English, but we're learning British English, which sounds very weird to me. I think I mostly sound American than English.

Poor English... I used to love this language so much. I've been been normally studying it for more than five years, actually since the first grade in school, but even now I can't say my English is perfect.
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Post by: autolyk on August 26, 2010, 16:00
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I mean the whole sense, which is usually at the end.
It seems to me there is no sense like in other nonsense verse.
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Post by: Karakurt on August 26, 2010, 16:05
Well, the first verse is funny, but second one? Is it complete nonsense?
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Post by: autolyk on August 26, 2010, 16:14
Well, the first verse is funny, but second one?
Well, let’s suppose I gave an improper example of the British humour.
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Post by: Aleksey on September 4, 2010, 13:25
Poor English...
Personification of English? Rather weird...Though, admittedly, the newspeak or Runglish, as it may be called, is becoming more noticeable than it was, let's say, two years ago.
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Post by: LOSTaz on June 16, 2011, 20:54
I've noticed that since the overlapping topics dedicated to either prosaic or poetic English have been created this one was forgot.
So, I'd love to revive it as the lack of interesting English-language forums or English-speaking people you would be keen on conversing with is a common problem of the vast majority of English learners. No doubt, it depends on the place, where this learner lives, but actually here the Russian ones were implied.

P.S. all the corrections are highly appreciated
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Post by: Awwal12 on June 16, 2011, 21:27
P.S. all the corrections are highly appreciated
You could fix the syntax a bit in the first place, I believe. I mean, such a composition of the sentences makes them somehow difficult to comprehend.
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Post by: LOSTaz on June 16, 2011, 21:39
P.S. all the corrections are highly appreciated
You could fix the syntax a bit in the first place, I believe. I mean, such a composition of the sentences makes them somehow difficult to comprehend.
Yep, I took notice of its complexity as soon as I wrote that sentence but I didn't know how to rewrite it. That's why I decided to leave the things as they were.
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Post by: Awwal12 on June 16, 2011, 21:59
Yep, I took notice of its complexity as soon as I wrote that sentence but I didn't know how to rewrite it. That's why I decided to leave the things as they were.
A predicate shouldn't be in the very end of a long sentence, for instance. Well, at least if you don't want it to be a mind-exploding weapon.  :green:
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I've noticed that since the overlapping topics dedicated to either prosaic or poetic English have been created this one was forgot.
My variant (maybe not the best one, but still):
"As I noticed, this topic was forgotten since lots of overlapping topics were created here that were dedicated to either prosaic or poetic English."
(P.S.: fixd. Damned copypaste)
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Post by: iopq on June 16, 2011, 22:02
I've noticed that since the overlapping topics dedicated to either prosaic or poetic English have been created, this one was forgotten.
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Post by: Awwal12 on June 16, 2011, 22:07
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P.S.: Necessary corrections of my texts are also welcome, of course.
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Post by: Квас on June 16, 2011, 22:18
What do you think of hiding corrections in spoilers? Errors are all right if we have nothing else to discuss, but if another topic ever arises it may die under tons of grammar. :)

No need to say any corrections are welcome and appreciated. ;)
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Post by: Awwal12 on June 16, 2011, 22:21
What do you think of hiding corrections in spoilers? Errors are all right if we have nothing else to discuss, but if another topic ever arises it may die under tons of grammar. :)
Agreed.
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Post by: LOSTaz on June 16, 2011, 22:24
you don't want it to be a mind-exploding weapon.  :green:
Like all Turks I am :)

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Post by: Искандер on June 16, 2011, 22:26
but I didn't know how
have been not knowing ?
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Post by: Awwal12 on June 16, 2011, 22:38
but I didn't know how
have been not knowing ?
I would ask a native speaker here...
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Post by: LOSTaz on June 16, 2011, 22:39
but I didn't know how
had been not knowing ?

Although discussing one's mistakes and grammar is useful, it's not such an exciting topic to talk about.
So, just to relax somehow, have you already decided what you are going to do in the summer.
I mean if you have made up your mind to go somewhere you have been dreamt about or such sort of things. Or you would probably stay at home and deal with everyday activities.

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Post by: Awwal12 on June 16, 2011, 22:42
it's nit such an exciting topic to talk about.
It depends.  ;D And, well, it's always useful anyway.
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have you already decided what you are going to do in the summer.
Work. :)
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Post by: Квас on June 16, 2011, 22:45
have you already decided what you are going to do in the summer.

I’m likely to work all summer long. Before the middle of July my boss and I have to prepare a book for publication, and then I’ll write my belated thesis. :( I hope I’ll be able to spend a while in the summer resort.
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Post by: Искандер on June 16, 2011, 23:39
relax somehow, have you already decided what you are going to do in the summer.
ThYs question do not consent me to relax.

They have decided already I to work at factory without remuneration and to drink a lot of vodka.
& you?
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Post by: Искандер on June 16, 2011, 23:41
everybody slaves I see.
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Post by: Квас on June 16, 2011, 23:50
everybody slaves I see.

In fact I manage to flood on LF even thought I’m facing the deadline with my book in just a month. So mine is at any rate an endurable kind of slavery. :)
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Post by: Искандер on June 16, 2011, 23:54
slavery.
slaving...
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Post by: Awwal12 on June 16, 2011, 23:55
everybody slaves I see.

In fact I manage to flood on LF even thought I’m facing the deadline with my book in just a month. So mine is at any rate an endurable kind of slavery. :)
Sometimes I wish we were Japanese...
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Post by: Квас on June 16, 2011, 23:56
slavery.
slaving...
shaving :P (Never mind, just talking nonsense.)
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Post by: Квас on June 16, 2011, 23:57
Sometimes I wish we were Japanese...

I never do. They seem nearly space aliens to me. :) But why do you wish it?
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Post by: Awwal12 on June 16, 2011, 23:59
I never do. They seem nearly space aliens to me. :) But why do you wish it?
Because I personally feel a lack of self-discipline.
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Post by: Чайник777 on June 17, 2011, 00:34
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then I’ll write my belated thesis.
a new word for me  ::)
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Post by: Квас on June 17, 2011, 00:36
then I’ll write my belated thesis.
a new word for me  ::)

For me too. First I thought of ‘retarded’ but it’s not exactly what I meant. :green:
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Post by: LOSTaz on June 17, 2011, 00:38
As for me, I'm doing a course in German this montn (almost everyday in the mornings)
Then I'm to spend a month in Azerbaijan, I should visit my grandparents and all the friends living there.
Then I will be preparing for school in August.
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Post by: Квас on June 17, 2011, 00:41
As for me, I'm doing a course in German this montn (almost everyday in the mornings)

On your own?
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Post by: LOSTaz on June 17, 2011, 00:52
In Goethe-Institut.
I loved it very much :) The course is entirely in German so finally I could get used to the way it sounds. It's the first time in these 5 years I've been learning German when I've got the chance to express all my feelings and ideas in German. That's amazing :)
What is your book about?
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Post by: Квас on June 17, 2011, 00:59
Is this a correspondence course?

The book… Maths, you know. Attractors for motion equations of viscoelastic media. :) They say each formula included in a book halves the amount of potential readers; it turns out no one will read ours. ;D
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Post by: LOSTaz on June 17, 2011, 01:21
Nope, I've got to get up early in order commute there via underground.

Maths... Even though I'm not so bad at it, as compared to the rest of the class, I couldn't understand a word of the post you've written, except for the last sentence, no doubt. ;)
I mean I've no idea what "viscoelastic media" is. :)
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Post by: Квас on June 17, 2011, 01:27
Nope, I've got to get up early in order commute there via underground.

It turns out you’re in Germany? Cool! :yes:

I mean I've no idea what "viscoelastic media" is. :)

Fluids that are viscous and elastic at once. :D They come up not very often in everyday life, but provide mathematicians with lots of complicated equations.
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Post by: Awwal12 on June 17, 2011, 01:31
Fluids that are viscous and elastic at once. :D
Sounds like just a more realistic model. If I remember correctly, such models are frequently used in technological calculations.
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Post by: LOSTaz on June 17, 2011, 01:46
Actually, it's in the hub of St. Petersburg, which is full of strangers, just like Germany :) Whereas I live quite far from it.

The problem is that I was familiar with all the words in the post but couldn't take an idea in a whole in.
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Post by: LOSTaz on June 17, 2011, 02:01
I am about to fall asleep, so "Good Night!"
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Post by: Квас on June 17, 2011, 02:07
Fluids that are viscous and elastic at once. :D
Sounds like just a more realistic model. If I remember correctly, such models are frequently used in technological calculations.

If you wonder, I can go into details a bit. The motion of fluids is described by some mechanical equations and one extra equation known as the constitutive law. This law can be deduced from various reasons and ‘contains’ specific properties of a fluid. Lots of fluids obey so called Newton’s constitutive law, which leads to Navier–Stokes equations: these are viscous fluids. Some other fluids (e. g. certain polymer solutions) display essentially different behaviour: under different conditions they may exhibit properties of a fluid and of a solid body. These media require other constitutive laws that are generally more complicated than Newton’s one.

This is the stuff we usually write in introductions to the articles. :) We are not interested in physics and mostly deal with existence theorems. (The usefulness of existence results can be argued. ;D Some people say they already know that water flows.) I came across the only ‘live’ example of a non-Newtonian fluid (flour suspension, if I’m not mistaken) in the Big Bang Theory. ;D
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Post by: Квас on June 17, 2011, 02:09
Actually, it's in the hub of St. Petersburg, which is full of strangers, just like Germany :) Whereas I live quite far from it

The Goethe Institute seems to have spread itself considerably. :) I thought it was German.

I am about to fall asleep, so "Good Night!"

Good night then! Thanks for reviving the topic! :)
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Post by: Awwal12 on June 17, 2011, 02:15
Actually any liquid can behave as an elastic body. It's just a matter of specific conditions when such behaviour cannot be ignored already.
e. g. certain polymer solutions
Also glass melts, for instance.
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Post by: Квас on June 17, 2011, 02:18
Actually any liquid can behave as an elastic body.

I believe you are right. For example, the Newtonian law is applicable only in the case of moderate velocities.
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Post by: Искандер on June 17, 2011, 05:40
What d you mean "elastic body".
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Post by: Awwal12 on June 17, 2011, 08:25
What d you mean "elastic body".
perfectly elastic body (http://lingvo.yandex.ru/perfectly%20elastic%20body/%D1%81%20%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE/LingvoScience/)
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Post by: Квас on June 17, 2011, 10:32
What d you mean "elastic body".

It restitutes its previous form after a deformation.
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Post by: Poirot on June 17, 2011, 10:54
As for me, I'm doing a course in German this montn
In this case I recommend visiting a special section at LF where people speak German. By the way Ellidi is very active there.
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Post by: Квас on June 17, 2011, 11:10
It restitutes its previous form after a deformation.

restitutes ⇒ restores
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Post by: arseniiv on June 17, 2011, 13:38
I see, you’ve been talking a bit about liquids here. How about non-Newtonian ones? Did you try to make some by putting starch and water together (same as of quicksand type)? Unfortunately, I don’t remember accurate proportion.

Offtop
Please, correct me. I feel unsure.
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Post by: Awwal12 on June 17, 2011, 13:41
I see, you’ve been talking a bit about liquids here. How about non-Newtonian ones? Did you try to make some by putting starch and water together?

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Please, correct me. I feel unsure.
That again...  :) All real liquids are non-Newtonian, that's just a matter of when they begin to manifest elactic properties.
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Post by: arseniiv on June 17, 2011, 13:49
Well, you could have to understand I mean quite non-Newtonian. :negozhe:

Also, I updated that msg.

Offtop
Seeing these English words I feel a bit queer. ;D And it’s not because of possible misusing of the language.
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Post by: Искандер on June 17, 2011, 14:02
If water can restitute some form after I broke the glass :???
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Post by: Квас on June 17, 2011, 15:35
If water can restitute some form after I broke the glass :???

Water does not exhibit elastic properties under normal conditions. It’s just viscous.
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Post by: arseniiv on June 17, 2011, 15:51
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Post by: Квас on June 17, 2011, 21:45
Fluid mechanics is a bore, I daresay. :)
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Post by: arseniiv on June 17, 2011, 22:44
If so, let’s do [speak] on another topic!

But I’d want to be corrected. I couldn’t believe all my sentences right!
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Post by: Квас on June 17, 2011, 22:50
Water is off until Sunday morning.
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Post by: iopq on June 18, 2011, 02:44
If so, let’s change the topic!

But, I’d want to be corrected. If you told me all of my sentences were correct, I wouldn't believe you.
Well, it's hard to correct something you find stylistically displeasing without changing the text completely.
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Post by: LOSTaz on June 18, 2011, 03:10
It is sunny again in St. Petersburg :) I hope it will get just a bit hotter.

P.S. expect being condemned by all the other users (from SP)

P.P.S. Quasus, what is the weather like in your city?
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Post by: Квас on June 18, 2011, 03:31
It is sunny again in St. Petersburg

At 3 a.m.? :o

Quasus, what is the weather like in your city?

I’d say it’s a bit too hot at midday, but quite tolerable. Last summer was so terrible that any weather but for the anomalous heat is welcome. ;D I hate heat, 20–22°C all summer long would be great.  It’s cloudy at times, but it doesn’t rain. BTW I live in Voronezh.

My wife and I visited St. Petersburg in summer two years ago. We were delighted by the cool weather (when we were back, it was naturally hell and Israel), yet the indigenes longed for heat. ;D
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Post by: Квас on June 18, 2011, 03:33
Well, it’s kind of late, I’d better go to bed. :) Tomorrow we are going to escape from this waterless desert.
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Post by: Hellerick on June 18, 2011, 03:37
Divnogorsk is melting down. Few susvivors switched to nocturnalism.
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Post by: Искандер on June 29, 2011, 11:09
melting down :??? Zaliwajem rasswietom?
So I have a miracleous outsight in Noginsk too. My 7th floor window is really pictorescue. Esp during dust.
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Post by: subway_man on July 20, 2011, 17:53
I don't mean to offend, but what's the point in practicing your English with non-natives? It won't do you any good.
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Post by: Квас on July 21, 2011, 00:03
It won't do you any good.

I don’t agree at all.
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Post by: svobodný on July 21, 2011, 00:16
So1 I have a miracleous outsight2 in Noginsk too. My 7th floor window is really pictorescue*. Esp during dust**.
1 не стоит начинать предложение с so, когда у вас нет обьяснения или причины перед этим so
2 поясните, пожалуйста
*pictoresque
**elaborate, please.
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Post by: svobodný on July 21, 2011, 00:22
(when we were back, it was naturally hell and Israel)
?
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Post by: svobodný on July 21, 2011, 00:22
P.S. expect being condemned by all the other users (from SP)
?
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Post by: Уттыԓьын on July 21, 2011, 00:31
So1 I have a miracleous outsight2 in Noginsk too. My 7th floor window is really pictorescue*. Esp during dust**.
1 не стоит начинать предложение с so, когда у вас нет обьяснения или причины перед этим so
2 поясните, пожалуйста
*pictoresque
**elaborate, please.
miracleous outsight, prob. = wonderful view
pictorescue = picturesque (ref. to the view from the window)
during dust, prob. = at dusk

hell and Israel, poss. = hell on earth
expect being condemned by all the other users = expect to be condemned by (or, condemnation from) all the other users

indigenes = natives or locals
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Post by: Квас on July 21, 2011, 00:38
Hell and Israel is a word-for-word translation of a Russian saying, I did it just for lulz. :) I think that ‘hell on earth’ perfectly conveys the meaning.

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Post by: svobodný on July 21, 2011, 00:43
pictorescue = picturesque (ref. to the view from the window)
do'oh! :(
miracleous outsight, prob. = wonderful view
thanks
expect being condemned by all the other users = expect to be condemned by (or, condemnation from) all the other users
but why the?
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Post by: rudaru on July 21, 2011, 00:46
What are you doing at the moment?
Are you really want it?
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 00:50
About articles. Once I asked my english-speaking friends when they use articles and how they choose from a and the. And they said they don't mind and do it simply for good sounds...
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 00:52
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)
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Post by: Квас on July 21, 2011, 00:55
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)

You wrote in English, so it was not offtopic. See the thread title. :)

And they said they don't mind and do it simply for good sounds...

I do the same in Russian. (I don’t mean articles.) Yet foreigners think there’s a lot of things to learn. ;D
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 01:00
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)

You wrote in English, so it was not offtopic. See the thread title. :)

Thank you!
Can I say in topic with meaning "в тему"? Is it right?
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 01:03
And they said they don't mind and do it simply for good sounds...

I do the same in Russian. (I don’t mean articles.) Yet foreigners think there’s a lot of things to learn. ;D

I forget about articles very often. Even I try to learn word with articles in sentences... but english is not german  :(
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Post by: Konay on July 21, 2011, 01:04
what's up people?!
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Post by: Konay on July 21, 2011, 01:05
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)

You wrote in English, so it was not offtopic. See the thread title. :)

Thank you!
Can I say in topic with meaning "в тему"? Is it right?

Sorry you can't :(
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Post by: Квас on July 21, 2011, 01:06
Can I say in topic with meaning "в тему"? Is it right?

Actually I doubt that it’s an adequate translation… Pertinently must sound bookish. :-\ Uhm, I don’t know.
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Post by: Квас on July 21, 2011, 01:06
what's up people?!

The sky is up! :)
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Post by: Konay on July 21, 2011, 01:07
Can I say in topic with meaning "в тему"? Is it right?

Actually I doubt that it’s an adequate translation… Pertinently must sound bookish. :-\ Uhm, I don’t know.

Smth. like "Sorry if I'm not quite following the topic of the conversation, but I wanna say..."  :???
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 01:07
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)

You wrote in English, so it was not offtopic. See the thread title. :)
Thank you!
Can I say in topic with meaning "в тему"? Is it right?

Sorry you can't :(

Only offtopic? Is не в тему tracing from english offtopic?
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Post by: Konay on July 21, 2011, 01:08
what's up people?!

The sky is up! :)

The sky is up in the sky ;)
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 01:12
I offer the new theme. What do you do with english pretexts? They are real nightmare for me.
One thing is pretexts in german with it's system of cases, another side is english with very mess system.  :uzhos:
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Post by: Квас on July 21, 2011, 01:16
What do you do with english pretexts?

Uhm. Actually I don’t think I do anything with pretexts (http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/pretext). What do you do with them?
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 01:18
Uhm. Actually I don’t think I do anything with pretexts (http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/pretext). What do you do with them?

Sorry not pretexts, but prepositions and postpositions...
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Post by: Квас on July 21, 2011, 01:29
Uhm. Actually I don’t think I do anything with pretexts. What do you do with them?
Sorry not pretexts, but prepositions and postpositions...

What’s wrong with prepositions?

As for phrasal verbs, I think I tend to use their more literary single word counterparts. They stick better in the memory. :donno:
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Post by: Уттыԓьын on July 21, 2011, 01:30
Can I say in topic with meaning "в тему"? Is it right?
The opposite of ‘off-topic’ is ‘on-topic’.
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Post by: Уттыԓьын on July 21, 2011, 01:37
expect being condemned by all the other users = expect to be condemned by (or, condemnation from) all the other users
but why the?
Because there is a specific group of users in mind, namely the users of this forum.
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 01:39
Uhm. Actually I don’t think I do anything with pretexts. What do you do with them?
Sorry not pretexts, but prepositions and postpositions...

What’s wrong with prepositions?

As for phrasal verbs, I think I tend to use their more literary single word counterparts. They stick better in the memory. :donno:

For example how to say right? I do it to fun or I do it for fun?
Of course for fun looks better, but why?

Another example, I give it to you or I give it for you? What is more correctly?
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Post by: Уттыԓьын on July 21, 2011, 01:46
how to say right? : ‘what’s the right way to say it?’

for fun : ‘for’ = ‘for the sake of’
to you : ‘to’ = indirect object

What is more correctly? : ‘which is correct?’
correct : adj.
correctly : adv.
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Post by: Квас on July 21, 2011, 01:49
For example how to say right? I do it to fun or I do it for fun?
Of course for fun looks better, but why?

Perhaps because you’ve seen or heard it a thousand times. :) I think nothing but constant practice helps to memorise prepositions used with one or another adjective or verb.

Another example, I give it to you or I give it for you? What is more correctly?

Roughly, to corresponds to Russian dative case, while for is similar to для. Consequently, to you.

When learning Latin, I came to the conclusion that cases are easier to master than prepositions: the syntax of cases seems to me more regular. Nothing doing! French prepositions appear even more confusing. :)
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Post by: Квас on July 21, 2011, 01:53
for fun : ‘for’ = ‘for the sake of’

Unlike zum Spass in German.
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 02:00
Thanks.
When learning Latin, I came to the conclusion that cases are easier to master than prepositions: the syntax of cases seems to me more regular. Nothing doing! French prepositions appear even more confusing. :)

The same thing! Changing by cases in German or Latin (I learned it long time ago) is more easy and clearer for me than prepositions system in English and French. I think that it is so, because our first language is Russian with cases system. Don't you think so?
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Post by: Искандер on July 21, 2011, 09:37
Õõõõ! It's so boring.... make some fun for me I bag.
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Post by: iopq on July 21, 2011, 10:59
I don't mean to offend, but what's the point in practicing your English with non-natives? It won't do you any good.
>implying I'm not a native
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Post by: iopq on July 21, 2011, 11:00
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)
"on topic" is correct
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Post by: iopq on July 21, 2011, 11:02
Uhm. Actually I don’t think I do anything with pretexts (http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/pretext). What do you do with them?

Sorry not pretexts, but prepositions and postpositions...
Just memorize them, there is no other way

How else would you know that it's "on topic" and not "in topic"?
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Post by: Искандер on July 21, 2011, 11:32
yep, he's not native. We trust that...
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Post by: Karakurt on July 21, 2011, 11:37
I bag.
You bag?
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 13:07
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)
"on topic" is correct

Why? Is it tradition or what?
Can I say "offtopic"?
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Post by: iopq on July 21, 2011, 14:19
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)
"on topic" is correct

Why? Is it tradition or what?
Can I say "offtopic"?
why do you say в тему in Russian? Is it tradition or what?

Yes, you can say off topic
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 14:22
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)
"on topic" is correct

Why? Is it tradition or what?
Can I say "offtopic"?
why do you say в тему in Russian? Is it tradition or what?

Yes, you can say off topic

I meaned why on topic, but not in topic?
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Post by: LOSTaz on July 21, 2011, 14:25
Can we say that the vast majority of posts on this forum are said off topic? or "are offtop" would sound better?
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Post by: LOSTaz on July 21, 2011, 14:27
Aussie, your last question makes no sense. It's just the way English language lives, that's it.
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 14:31
Aussie, your last question makes no sense. It's just the way English language lives, that's it.

No way! Must be any roles.
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Post by: iopq on July 21, 2011, 14:39
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)
"on topic" is correct

Why? Is it tradition or what?
Can I say "offtopic"?
why do you say в тему in Russian? Is it tradition or what?

Yes, you can say off topic

I meanted why is it on topic, but not in topic?
Answer why it is so in Russian, and that will be my answer for English.
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Post by: iopq on July 21, 2011, 14:40
Aussie, your last question makes no sense. It's just the way English language lives, that's it.

No way! Must be any roles.
Verstehe nicht
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 14:47
iopq, Thanks for correction!

In Russian we can say в тему рассказа, разговора и etc and we have no any chose, except "в тему". But in English it can be in topic and on topic. And you said that second is right form. So I asked why. Why not in?  :green:
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Post by: Уттыԓьын on July 21, 2011, 14:54
in English it can be in topic and on topic.
No, it can only be on-topic.

Why not in?
Because on is the opposite of off.
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 14:56
Ok! I understand. Eurica! It's because contradistinction of on/off: on to :wall:pic vs off topic.
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Post by: Aussie on July 21, 2011, 14:59
in English it can be in topic and on topic.
No, it can only be on-topic.

Why not in?
Because on is the opposite of off.

=)
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Post by: Чайник777 on July 21, 2011, 15:00
I bag.
You bag?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baggot    :what:
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Post by: Квас on July 21, 2011, 15:18
"are offtop" would sound better?

I always thought ‘оффтоп’ is a Russian neologism, the -ic being considered as a diminutive suffix.
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Post by: LOSTaz on July 21, 2011, 15:27
what's up people?!

The sky is up! :)

The sky is up in the sky ;)
"Sky is over." Serj Tankian

My ***king phone makes me crazy :(
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Post by: LOSTaz on July 21, 2011, 15:33
Quasus, you are right. "off-topic" sounds more English...
Moreover I should not have used "are blah-blah" there. No doubt, "majority" is singular :(
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Post by: Искандер on July 21, 2011, 17:01
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baggot    :what:

**ck!
**it!
that's awesome!
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Post by: autolyk on July 21, 2011, 18:01
I bag.
You bag?
Perhaps Iskander likes to have been bagging. :) 
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Post by: Искандер on July 21, 2011, 18:47
Perhaps Iskander likes to have been bagging. :)
Which kind of bagging do you mean?
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Post by: autolyk on July 21, 2011, 18:51
Which kind of bagging do you mean?
I meant blue bagging. 
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Post by: Квас on July 21, 2011, 19:22
I liked the word cheesy (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheesy) from the Urban Dictionary a while ago.
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Post by: Искандер on July 21, 2011, 20:18
I meant blue bagging.
Oh, that bagging... That all is totally brash calumnies I swear.
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Post by: Искандер on July 21, 2011, 20:20
Just for it being clear, whatever any baggings of mine are shitty slime.

I mean... Of somewhom... Yep.
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Post by: Искандер on July 21, 2011, 20:23
I liked the word cheesy from the Urban Dictionary a while ago.
Hm... murky. Is it good recomendation or not — it's cheesy — ?
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Post by: Ellidi on July 21, 2011, 20:34
As for phrasal verbs, I think I tend to use their more literary single word counterparts.
So do I. It is much more easier for  me to memorise procrastinate - pro + cras (lat. in the future) than put off. I had been acquainted with the meaning of procrastinate for at least one year before I embarked on avidly learning phrasal verbs due to their indispensability for fluency in English (including put off).
They stick better in the memory. :donno:
This is mine opinion too.
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Post by: Ellidi on July 21, 2011, 20:49
So1 I have a miracleous outsight2 in Noginsk too. My 7th floor window is really pictorescue*. Esp during dust**.
2 поясните, пожалуйста
outlook, structurally reminiscent of German Ausblick and Aussicht.
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Post by: svobodný on July 21, 2011, 20:54
Ellidi, no one talks like that.. It's too old-fashioned. Sorry.
Thanks for pointing out at the mistakes, that were corrected by Уттыԓьын
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Post by: Искандер on July 21, 2011, 21:03
1 не стоит начинать предложение с so, когда у вас нет обьяснения или причины перед этим so
Не думаю.

*pictoresque
Don't care. At all.

**elaborate, please.
Что вочу то и хорочу.

Вообще я был угашенный, судя по тексту.
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Post by: Ellidi on July 21, 2011, 21:05
In this case I recommend visiting a special section at LF where people speak German. By the way Ellidi is very active there.
Versteher is no less prolific in that thread.
Ellidi, no one talks like that.. It's too old-fashioned.
This is not enough to discourage me. I am fond of obsolescent things. Besides, I am elate at the fact that one used to speak like that and this I consider sufficient.
Thanks for pointing out at the mistakes, that were corrected by Уттыԓьын
At first I perceived the blunder and only then did I espy the correction which followed. Therefore I rescinded my penultimate message dealing with the misspelling.
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Post by: svobodný on July 21, 2011, 22:46
Versteher is no less prolific in that thread.
Ok, to make it clear: no one talks or writes like that in real life of a simple Englishman.
If you write like that you're going to look like a snob or an illiterate c*nt.
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Post by: svobodný on July 21, 2011, 22:50
At first I perceived the blunder and only then did I espy the correction which followed. Therefore I rescinded my penultimate message dealing with the misspelling.
I think once you go to England you're going to get a fist in the face for your mockery of the English language.
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Post by: Искандер on July 21, 2011, 22:54
If you write like that you're going to look like a snob or an illiterate c*nt.
Kitty, you are Kitty!
Obviously.

I think once you go to England you're going to get a fist in the face for your mocking of the English language.
And then I sue them till death!
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Post by: svobodný on July 21, 2011, 22:57
Kitty, you are Kitty!
Obviously.
?
And then I sue them till death!
I really doubt it, because you're going to be an illegal immigrant.
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Post by: autolyk on July 21, 2011, 23:02
Kitty, you are Kitty!
Obviously.
And so?
And then I sue them till death!
I really doubt it, because you're going to be an illegal immigrant.
It seems to me he’s not a lawyer but a Mukhosransk high school leaver)
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Post by: Искандер on July 22, 2011, 00:11
I really doubt it, because you're going to be an illegal immigrant.
Да вай бы ай ду соу?

It seems to me he’s not a lawyer but a Mukhosransk high school leaver)
If that crap is about my P, I sue your P. Till death.
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Post by: Квас on July 22, 2011, 01:15
I liked the word cheesy from the Urban Dictionary a while ago.
Hm... murky. Is it good recomendation or not — it's cheesy — ?

Obviously it is not.
Quote
Cheesiness is subjective. What seems cheesy to me, may be a legitimate and attractive hairstyle to you.

patztalom :E:

It’s a pity ‘cheesiness’ can’t be expressed by a single Russian word. (Or at least I can’t think of one.) Yet Anglo-Saxons don’t have a word for poshlust’! :P

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Post by: Квас on July 22, 2011, 01:16
I embarked on avidly learning phrasal verbs due to their indispensability for fluency in English

How did you do that? Did you have any special methods?
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Post by: ginkgo on July 22, 2011, 03:26
In this case I recommend visiting a special section at LF where people speak German. By the way Ellidi is very active there.
Versteher is no less prolific in that thread.
Versteher writes in his own "German", that isn't actually the language spoken (or written) by the German-speaking world.
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Post by: Ellidi on July 22, 2011, 10:40
I think once you go to England
Oh yes, at the Greek kalends.  :eat: (I do not intend to travel outside my continent, which is Eurasia)
How did you do that? Did you have any special methods?
This was faced up to in one English course.
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Post by: Karakurt on July 22, 2011, 10:54
In this case I recommend visiting a special section at LF where people speak German. By the way Ellidi is very active there.
Versteher is no less prolific in that thread.
Versteher writes in his own "German", that isn't actually the language spoken (or written) by the German-speaking world.
And Ellidi? His German and English looks like mocking.
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Post by: Ellidi on July 22, 2011, 10:59
And Ellidi? His German and English looks like mocking.
My German? Mocking?  :o If you have discovered any errors, please lay them bare. Or expound wherein the mocking character consists.
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Post by: Karakurt on July 22, 2011, 11:00
Just a guess ;)
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Post by: Искандер on July 22, 2011, 12:59
It’s a pity ‘cheesiness’ can’t be expressed by a single Russian word.
But single russian hiperonym may be.... Ex.g. "bad" or "good"...
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Post by: svobodný on July 22, 2011, 13:11
My German? Mocking?  :o If you have discovered any errors, please lay them bare. Or expound wherein the mocking character consists.
Ignorance is a bliss.
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Post by: iopq on August 1, 2011, 07:34
It’s a pity ‘cheesiness’ can’t be expressed by a single Russian word. (Or at least I can’t think of one.) Yet Anglo-Saxons don’t have a word for poshlust’! :P
дешевый
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Post by: Konay on August 1, 2011, 10:15
Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?
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Post by: Awwal12 on August 1, 2011, 11:25
Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?
I'm not sure is it boring or not, although I clearly feel a lack of expressive means pretty frequently.  :(
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Post by: svobodný on August 1, 2011, 11:27
I'm not sure is it boring or not, although I clearly feel a lack of expressive means pretty frequently.  :(
"английский — бесчуственный!" (с)
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Post by: autolyk on August 1, 2011, 11:30
I'm not sure is it boring or not, although I clearly feel a lack of expressive means pretty frequently.  :(
Read more Versteher’s postings. :)
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Post by: Awwal12 on August 1, 2011, 11:32
"английский — бесчуственный!" (с)
Actually English looks pretty usual in part of expressive means. It's rather Russian that is oversaturated with them (on different levels, from morthology and vocabulary to syntax and phonetics).
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Post by: svobodný on August 1, 2011, 11:44
It's rather Russian that is oversaturated with them (on different levels, from morthology and vocabulary to syntax and phonetics).
:o
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 1, 2011, 12:53
Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?
count me in
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Post by: Aussie on August 1, 2011, 14:01
English forever!!!
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Post by: Konay on August 1, 2011, 20:15
Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?
I'm not sure is it boring or not, although I clearly feel a lack of expressive means pretty frequently.  :(

I feel like English is both popular and boring for one same reason. I guess simple is the new boring :)
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Post by: Искандер on August 1, 2011, 21:12
English is totally NOT boring. American one sometimes is. And normal QL can be so romantic.  Nyaaaa!
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Post by: Konay on August 1, 2011, 21:50
Almost every educated person can speak some English. And it therefore gets so much less romantic than it used to be...
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Post by: Квас on August 1, 2011, 21:51
It’s a pity ‘cheesiness’ can’t be expressed by a single Russian word. (Or at least I can’t think of one.) Yet Anglo-Saxons don’t have a word for poshlust’! :P
дешевый

Well, I’m not sure. Sometimes it fits, but if I understand the English word right, it rather conveys the idea that the motives are too much prominent when they shouldn’t be. Anyway, I can be mistaken, since I’ve only come across the word in the dictionary entry. :)

Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?

Trolling? ;) Come on…
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Post by: ginkgo on August 1, 2011, 21:59
Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?

Trolling? ;)
A boring kind of trolling, I'd say  ;)
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Post by: Konay on August 1, 2011, 22:01
Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?
Trolling? ;) Come on…

"Creek douchee moe yay!" ;)
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Post by: Karakurt on August 1, 2011, 22:02
I don't like English phonetics, it's really difficult.
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Post by: Konay on August 1, 2011, 22:06
Plus, I still LOVE English ;)
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Post by: Konay on August 1, 2011, 22:08
I don't like English phonetics, it's really difficult.

It definitely is. Although speaking a language with an accent is still speaking it :)
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Post by: Искандер on August 1, 2011, 22:12
Almost every educated person can speak some English. And it therefore gets so much less romantic than it used to be...
Indeed have not thou encountered all those enchanted words with flavour of lang syne? Not every of those educated persons can hark that romantic language.
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Post by: Konay on August 1, 2011, 22:14
Almost every educated person can speak some English. And it therefore gets so much less romantic than it used to be...
Indeed have not thou encountered all those enchanted words with flavour of lang syne? Not every of those educated persons can hark that romantic language.

Ooouuu, sounds so Germanic. Good thing they don't speak like that anymore  :yes:
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Post by: Искандер on August 1, 2011, 22:18
Ooouuu, sounds so Germanic. Good thing they don't speak like that anymore  :yes:
May tarnation take all that uneloquent "contemporary english"!
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Post by: Искандер on August 1, 2011, 22:20
Yep, guys. I'm listening Nightwish for few days continuosly.
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 1, 2011, 22:21
English is totally NOT boring. American one sometimes is.
Which variety is not boring?
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Post by: Konay on August 1, 2011, 22:22
Ooouuu, sounds so Germanic. Good thing they don't speak like that anymore  :yes:
May tarnation take all that uneloquent "contemporary english"!

The simpler the best :) I like simplicity and I know that it comes from something Freudian :)
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 1, 2011, 22:23
Yep, guys. I'm listening Nightwish for few days continuosly.
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Post by: Konay on August 1, 2011, 22:23
English is totally NOT boring. American one sometimes is.
Which variety is not boring?

The one they spoke in the 16th century  ;D
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Post by: Искандер on August 1, 2011, 22:26
something Freudian
Hm... simplisity in language — complicity in ...
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Post by: Искандер on August 1, 2011, 22:27
Niggar you crazy
Да why бы not?
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Post by: Konay on August 1, 2011, 22:29
something Freudian
Hm... simplisity in language — complicity in ...

I like simplicity in general. And I like Freud. And I therefore like the way he interpreted those kinds of things.
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Post by: Искандер on August 2, 2011, 17:27
Is "chill" more like "прохлада" either "холодрыга"?
What d'you think?
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Post by: Konay on August 2, 2011, 22:17
Is "chill" more like "прохлада" either "холодрыга"?
What d'you think?

I would say it's just холод. Although I doubt that someone will ever say "chill". Something like "it's chilly outside" would sound better. На улице холодно/прохладно. Но прохладно в смысле холодно, а не так, что летняя прохлада.
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Post by: svobodný on August 2, 2011, 22:32
I don't like English phonetics, it's really difficult.
mm, shouldn't it be phonology?
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Post by: Искандер on August 2, 2011, 23:01
Но прохладно в смысле холодно, а не так, что летняя прохлада.
Simply to say "холодрыга"
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Post by: Konay on August 2, 2011, 23:13
Но прохладно в смысле холодно, а не так, что летняя прохлада.
Simply to say "холодрыга"

холод :) just a humble opinion of mine...
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Post by: Konay on August 2, 2011, 23:15
"холодрыга" = freaking cold ;D

We need a native speaker to help us with this one...
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Post by: iopq on August 3, 2011, 04:23
I don't like English phonetics, it's really difficult.
mm, shouldn't it be phonology?
English phonology is not hard if you master English phonetics

this is because the constraints are stricter than Russian phonology, many clusters are simplified
now try to get an English speaker to pronounce Днепр and he'll shit bricks
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 11:31
now try to get an English speaker to pronounce Днепр and he'll shit bricks
Пал'яниця?
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Post by: Ellidi on August 3, 2011, 11:46
Indeed have not thou
hast not thou
Ooouuu, sounds so Germanic. Good thing they don't speak like that anymore  :yes:
It is a pity.
The one they spoke in the 16th century  ;D
Back then, one could still use spake on a par with spoke. ;)
I like Freud.
:(
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Post by: Konay on August 3, 2011, 11:50
Ooouuu, sounds so Germanic. Good thing they don't speak like that anymore  :yes:
It is a pity.

It is a pity Nazi hadn't won the WWII, right? Indeed, our language in that case would have sounded so damn pretty! ;)
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Post by: svobodný on August 3, 2011, 11:55
English phonology is not hard if you master English phonetics

this is because the constraints are stricter than Russian phonology, many clusters are simplified
now try to get an English speaker to pronounce Днепр and he'll shit bricks
I mean the mistake, that Karakurt has made earlier, by writing English phonetics, not phonology.
Of course it is possible to master English phonology. The only thing you have to do is listen to natives and imitate their patterns of speech.
Not only consonant clusters are awful in Russian.. reduced vowels are hideous as well :P
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Post by: Ellidi on August 3, 2011, 11:56
It is a pity Nazi hadn't won the WWII, right?
No sensible person could agree with that. Especially after the insidious and calamitous incursion into USSR and all concomitant atrocities.
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Post by: svobodný on August 3, 2011, 11:56
It is a pity.
By this sentence you imply, that language must not evolve at all, am I right?
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Post by: svobodný on August 3, 2011, 11:58
Especially after the insidious and calamitous incursion into USSR and all concomitant atrocities.
Dear God... Have you ever considered looking into a Legal dictionary? Your styles are so intermixed, that your written language is more and more goobledygookish, than it was before..
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Post by: Karakurt on August 3, 2011, 12:01
I mean the mistake, that Karakurt has made earlier, by writing English phonetics, not phonology.
Why do you think it is a mistake?
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Post by: svobodný on August 3, 2011, 12:04
Why do you think it is a mistake?
Because phonetics is a science of sounds in general, while phonology is associated with a certain language.
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Post by: Awwal12 on August 3, 2011, 12:10
Why do you think it is a mistake?
Because phonetics is a science of sounds in general, while phonology is associated with a certain language.
Er, wut?..  :???
Phonetics refers to sounds, while phonology basically refers to phonemes.
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Post by: Karakurt on August 3, 2011, 12:10
Because ...
You're wrong, my friend. :)
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 12:12
hast not thou
        þenne watz gawan ful glad and gomenly he la3ed
        now I þonk yow þryuandely þur3 alle oþer þynge
        now acheued is my chaunce I schal at your wylle
        dowelle and ellez do quat 3e demen
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Post by: Ellidi on August 3, 2011, 12:13
svobodný, if you have descried any blunder or mistake committed by me, please lay it bare. Disparaging my style just because it displeases you is overly subjective, to say the least.
Have you ever considered looking into a Legal dictionary? Your styles are so intermixed, that your written language is more and more goobledygookish, than it was before..
Have you ever considered busying yourself with M. Heidegger or D. G. Rossetti? Thereby you could enrich considerably your style.
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 12:18
And whom those all Heideggerres are?
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 12:26
Legal dictionary
is it concret artifact or some genera?
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Post by: Ellidi on August 3, 2011, 12:30
And whom those all Heideggerres are?
Martin Heidegger is an illustrious existentialist philosopher with a matchless writing style. (wiki/ru) Хайдеггер,_Мартин (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%80,_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD)
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 12:42
Philosophist... ei hyödyllinen lukeminen
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Post by: svobodný on August 3, 2011, 14:13
Er, wut?..  :???
Phonetics refers to sounds, while phonology basically refers to phonemes.
and phonemes are in languages, right? so by mastering the pronounciation of the language you have to know the exact set of phonemes, not phones.
You're wrong, my friend. :)
Yeah, right. Read above, now.
svobodný, if you have descried any blunder or mistake committed by me, please lay it bare. Disparaging my style just because it displeases you is overly subjective, to say the least.
:fp:
How many times do I have to write to you that no one writes like that? Your style does not exist in English language. Your written language is not English. Period. Your lexis is a mix of styles. I repeat: a MIX of styles. That's a stylistic error. One big stylistic errors of your is a MIX of styles. Understood it?
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Post by: svobodný on August 3, 2011, 14:17
Martin Heidegger is an illustrious existentialist philosopher with a matchless writing style. (wiki/ru) Хайдеггер,_Мартин
:fp:
I believe you haven't heard about synonims. I've seen that 'illustrious' word for, like, over 9000 times. Get a dictionary. Get a dictionary, now.
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Post by: svobodný on August 3, 2011, 14:18
and phonemes are in languages, right? so by mastering the pronounciation of the language you have to know the exact set of phonemes, not phones.
I forgot to mention the intonation pattern as well as the stress in English.
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 14:26
I forgot to mention the intonation pattern as well as the stress in English.
It's prosodics
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Post by: svobodný on August 3, 2011, 14:30
It's prosodics
Prosody*, not prosodics :)

It doesn't matter, really. I really hope that you people have a good base in articulatory phonetics, so I'm mostly concerned with English phonology. That's why it's essential to know the details of phonological theory, that can be applied to the very act of speech.
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 14:40
Prosody*, not prosodics :)
I ment not the occurrence but the science.
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Post by: Karakurt on August 3, 2011, 14:54
You ment?
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 15:09
You ment?
"meant" I meant...
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Post by: svobodný on August 3, 2011, 15:56
I ment not the occurrence but the science.
Oh.. okay. I suppose Ellidi hates me now. Mission accomplished. ;D
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Post by: Квас on August 3, 2011, 16:12
I suggest that we comment each other’s grammar, style, and spelling in spoilers. ;)
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Post by: Konay on August 3, 2011, 16:34
I suggest that we comment each other’s grammar, style, and spelling in spoilers. ;)

I suppose it is a part of our mentality to correct people and to tell them what they odd to do. I personally think it is inappropriate to do so unless one is asking for help. I suggest that we stop doing it at all.  :stop:
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Post by: Уттыԓьын on August 3, 2011, 16:45
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Post by: Квас on August 3, 2011, 17:00
I suppose it is a part of our mentality to correct people.

lol, that’s true. :) Definitevely ‘watching the rings on the water’ doesn’t harm, but it should neither interfere with the main discussion nor be discouraging.

Уттыԓьын, thanks once again. I think of adding this tailed л to my layout. :)
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Post by: Уттыԓьын on August 3, 2011, 17:24
Уттыԓьын, thanks once again. I think of adding this tailed л to my layout. :)
You’re welcome. Many sources still use standard л in place of ԓ, so my name can quite reasonably be spelt either Уттыԓьын or Уттыльын, only it’s pronounced /uttəɬʔən/ - with a voiceless alveolar lateral fricative.
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Post by: Ellidi on August 3, 2011, 18:28
've seen that 'illustrious' word for, like, over 9000 times. Get a dictionary.
That's because illustrious is a current and popular adjective. :) Do eximious or eminent displease you less? I enjoy a plethora of English dictionaries, since this is a language I have been studying for years and all of them have contributed to enhancing my vocabulary, as you might have remarked.
I suppose Ellidi hates me now.
Is that what you sought to achieve?
Mission accomplished. ;D
Not yet, you should bestir yourself more.
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 19:06
Your poison
Your poison runs through my venes!

Awesome language!
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Post by: Квас on August 3, 2011, 19:08

Song lyrics?
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 19:09
Song lyrics?
Yep. Tarja.
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Post by: Квас on August 3, 2011, 19:21
I never manage to decipher English lyrics (except for songs like ‘I want you so ba-a-a-a-ad’). My appreciation of music must be rather poor. :( On the other hand, I can concentrate on music proper.
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 19:28
manage
You've erewhiles said like a railman.
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Post by: Konay on August 3, 2011, 19:31
I suppose it is a part of our mentality to correct people and to tell them what they odd to do.
No comment.

Ooops...Although that mistake makes me feel damn good about my natural ability to spell words ;)
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Post by: Квас on August 3, 2011, 19:59
manage
You've erewhiles said like a railman.

Is this a compliment? ;D Indeed, I’ve no idea how I may sound. At least the words are English and I hope I don’t violate grammar rules too much—so it must be English. :)
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Post by: Konay on August 3, 2011, 20:03

Are you by any chance russianized yet?  :green:
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 20:04
Is this a compliment?
Sure, dont you know me?
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Post by: Квас on August 3, 2011, 20:05
Is this a compliment?
Sure, dont you know me?

Of course, I do. ;D
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Post by: Konay on August 3, 2011, 20:07
Mr. Iskander's way to express his feelings is never different - no matter what language he uses ;)
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Post by: Ellidi on August 3, 2011, 20:16
Your poison
Your poison runs through my venes!

Awesome language!
Whom did you address by that?  :???
I suggest that we comment each other’s grammar, style, and spelling in spoilers. ;)
Oh yes, and speak in concrete terms, explain unæquivocally wherein one's objection consists - not like A is not good, B is appalling and so on. I can also simply enumerate my personal propensities and gustos (and displeasure), but I refrain therefrom. This is nowhere near as conducive to a fruitful, agreeable conversation.

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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 20:35
Mr. Iskander's way to express his feelings is never different - no matter what language he uses ;)
Yep, D'you think that's amiss?
Olen soittanut tahansa kielellä...

Whom did you address by that?  :???
It's Tarja sigs, for me ::)
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Post by: Awwal12 on August 3, 2011, 21:04
I suggest that we stop doing it at all.  :stop:
For some weird reason, I supposed that this thread was dedicated to improving the language skills of the participants...  :???
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Post by: Konay on August 3, 2011, 21:08
Mr. Iskander's way to express his feelings is never different - no matter what language he uses ;)
Yep, D'you think that's amiss?

That's totally fine, but I find it somewhat interesting.
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Post by: Konay on August 3, 2011, 21:09
I suggest that we stop doing it at all.  :stop:
For some weird reason, I supposed that this thread was dedicated to improving the language skills of the participants...  :???

Also, it is the fear of being laughed at that stops lots of people from trying to write in English here.
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 21:16
That's totally fine, but I find it somewhat interesting.
D'you prefer boring talker?
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Post by: Konay on August 3, 2011, 21:26
That's totally fine, but I find it somewhat interesting.
D'you prefer boring talker?

Why?  :donno: What made you think so?

Aanyway, people, let's talk about serious stuff in here :)
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 21:28
Aanyway, people, let's talk about serious stuff in here
Ыщ Ш вщ!

=

So I do!
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Post by: Квас on August 3, 2011, 21:40
Also, it is the fear of being laughed at that stops lots of people from trying to write in English here.

And this is very sad. Usus optimus magister, the experience is the best teacher. Anyway misuses are almost inevitable. Corrections should by no means be discouraging or obtrusive. Not everyone feels the need to be corrected.
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Post by: Квас on August 3, 2011, 21:43
Aanyway, people, let's talk about serious stuff in here :)

Linguistics, eh? ;) Could we just talk about some languages? (Other than English, of course.) Or perhaps computer algebra systems? Currently we are discussing them at ‘Математика’, I’d like to learn more about Maxima.
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 21:49
Not everyone feels the need to be corrected.
If that everyone has no need to be corrected?
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Post by: Karakurt on August 3, 2011, 21:53
in here
Can you rephrase?
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Post by: Квас on August 3, 2011, 21:53
Not everyone feels the need to be corrected.
If that everyone has no need to be corrected?

I have. And I much appreciate any help. :yes:
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 21:55
Or perhaps computer algebra systems?
Nop. Sertanly, such a kind of things with many integrals under exponents with nablahs and stuff give my brain 1010 of creeps.
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 21:55
I have. And I much appreciate any help. :yes:
So I asked not on yours.
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Post by: Квас on August 3, 2011, 22:03
So I asked not on yours.

You mean that comment about ‘veins’? Never mind.
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 22:09
You mean that comment about ‘veins’? Never mind.
Noperrhhh.!
I asked THIS —
If that everyone has no need to be corrected?
not of mine either.
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Post by: Квас on August 3, 2011, 22:12
I’m afraid I cease to understand. ;D
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Post by: Искандер on August 3, 2011, 22:14
I’m afraid I cease to understand. ;D
Translate that pair of phrases into rus.

Your poison...
Your poison runs trough my veins.
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Post by: Konay on August 3, 2011, 22:21
in here
Can you rephrase?

Why?
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Post by: Karakurt on August 3, 2011, 22:27
Why "here" is not enough?
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Post by: svobodný on August 4, 2011, 11:17
That's because illustrious is a current and popular adjective. :) Do eximious or eminent displease you less? I enjoy a plethora of English dictionaries, since this is a language I have been studying for years and all of them have contributed to enhancing my vocabulary, as you might have remarked.
Thesaurus can show you even more adjectives.
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Post by: Искандер on August 4, 2011, 13:05
Thesaurus can show you even more adjectives.
Are those of deceitful?
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Post by: huaxia on August 13, 2011, 20:48
This whole summer is totally fucked-up :(
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Post by: Искандер on August 13, 2011, 20:55
Whz do you think so?
You travelled, relaxed, assorted...
That was good, not like mine.
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Post by: huaxia on August 13, 2011, 21:05
You travelled, relaxed, assorted...
Are you kidding??
For the whole summer I've been in this stupid dusty town, trying to find a proper summer job. Also I realized that I'm a pretty shitty interpreter and both my English and Chinese totally suck >_<
I haven't even found a boyfriend yet :'-(
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Post by: Искандер on August 13, 2011, 21:07
this stupid dusty town
is...
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Post by: huaxia on August 13, 2011, 21:09
is...
Jakutsk.
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Post by: Квас on August 13, 2011, 21:22
trying to find a proper summer job

Never mind. Work is evil. :)
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Post by: Искандер on August 13, 2011, 21:38
Ohhh
I catch an idea
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Post by: Ellidi on August 13, 2011, 22:23
I haven't even found a boyfriend yet :'-(
Are the lads with whom you consociated too superficial or too inconstant? Or too intent on carnal pleasures and oblivious of the spiritual dimension of a relationship? Do they eschew enduring attachment?
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Post by: Искандер on August 13, 2011, 23:35
superficial
carnal
eschew
У меня от первого же запроса мультитран просто вырубился

attachment
а это, мне кажется вообще не вч тему.
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Post by: Квас on August 13, 2011, 23:42
superficial
carnal
eschew
У меня от первого же запроса мультитран просто вырубился

;) Learn Latin! Superficiēs ‘surface’, carnālis < carō ‘meat’. As for eschew, I don’t know. Must have been distorted in French.
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Post by: autolyk on August 13, 2011, 23:49
As for eschew, I don’t know.
To eschew means "to refrain, to avoid" :umnik:
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Post by: huaxia on August 14, 2011, 00:10
Are the lads with whom you consociated too superficial or too inconstant? Or too intent on carnal pleasures and oblivious of the spiritual dimension of a relationship? Do they eschew enduring attachment?

Quote from: Oxford dictionary
eschew
[es'cho͞o] es·chew [trans.] deliberately avoid using; abstain from he appealed to the crowd to eschew violence Derivatives: eschewal Origin: late Middle English: from Old French eschiver, ultimately of Germanic origin and related to German scheuen ‘shun’, also to shy I
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Post by: Квас on August 14, 2011, 00:13
from Old French eschiver, ultimately of Germanic origin and related to German scheuen ‘shun’

Uhm, one can’t guess the etymology at the first glance.
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Post by: Ellidi on August 14, 2011, 01:35
dude, couldn't you use any more modern english?? :o
Yes, I am able to recognise colloquial English and in a more or less maladroit way to render it. However, it is time-consuming for me, as the first words to emerge in my memory are those of Latin origin. Thus, I recollect the verb extinguish easier than put off, ignite easier than kindle and so forth. Consequently, I adjoin the first words of these to my sentence rather than the second ones (provided they are synonyms, otherwise I take their semantic dissimilarity into account). However, if my style nonplusses you or anyone else, I could in sooth alter it.
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 10:47
Ticklies

Sooo...
There is nothig SO bad in this style, but man, do you really can commune in such a complicate style?
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 14, 2011, 11:31
maladroit
you confuse word's meaning
:???  :-\
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 11:40
:???  :-\
What!?
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Post by: autolyk on August 14, 2011, 11:46
do you really can commune
Who are just having a chat this way?
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 11:57
Who are just having a chat this way?
I suppose that is not the kind of chat when you take a dictionary once per hour.
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 11:59
Though, there is nothing wrong in refering the dict.
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 12:38
Nyaaaa!
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 14, 2011, 12:44
What!?
What's wrong with using maladroit in this phrase, besides it being a rarely used word?
My dictionary says it means marked by a lack of adroitness; inept.
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 13:05
What's wrong with using maladroit in this phrase, besides it being a rarely used word?
My dictionary says it means marked by a lack of adroitness; inept.
This word means You make something ME which was not simply awkward, not only clumsy & unconvenient but was dab embarrasing for me and even impolite, indelicate, eventually gauche
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 13:08
Also I presume this word shall be prononced like /mä lä 'drüa/
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 14, 2011, 13:12
Also I presume this word shall be prononced like /mä lä 'drüa/
I am heartily sorry to disappoint you, dear sir, but I think your idea is not quite right.
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 13:18
I am heartily sorry to disappoint you, dear sir, but I think your idea is not quite right.
So said I.

But it shall be much more correct.
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 13:22
dear sir
We do not care of that for six generations, but thnx.
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 14, 2011, 13:25
dear sir
We do not care of that for six generations, but thnx.
I was merely trying to emulate Ellidi's style or the style that I perceived as being his style of writing. I'm not sure I've succeeded in this endeavor, though.
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 13:28
endeavor
I canąt find transcription, is it /in'di vэ/
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 14, 2011, 13:42
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/endeavor
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 13:50
Well, thnx!
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Post by: huaxia on August 14, 2011, 15:19
gosh, couldn't it be more complicated to chat with you guys?? the way you chat here is incredibly boring. let's pick a topic xD

how was your summer holiday? did anyone have a chance to go abroad this summer?
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 14, 2011, 15:27
did anyone have a chance to go abroad this summer?
not me
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Post by: Квас on August 14, 2011, 15:31
did anyone have a chance to go abroad this summer?
not me

Me neither. :)
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 15:33
how was your summer holiday? did anyone have a chance to go abroad this summer?
not me too.

Summer is boring topic.
I've been home till tomorrow... Bore. Urph. What can you recomend me to do with that?
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Post by: Квас on August 14, 2011, 15:35
Bore. Urph. What can you recomend me to do with that?

Have a baby. ;up:
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 15:35
It all-through was here (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/worldpost/album/167151/)
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Post by: Квас on August 14, 2011, 15:37
It all-through was here

A lot of trees… I like it!
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 15:37
Have a baby. ;up:
T's interesting.
Do you think infant blood can make me fine'nd cheerfull?
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 15:40
A lot of trees… I like it!
trees, babies... it all is not that I want to be blithe.
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 15:43
nah you know? It's just time to take my habitual ride through the city and suburbs.
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Post by: Искандер on August 14, 2011, 20:55
So what!
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Post by: Квас on August 14, 2011, 22:48
How d’you mean?
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Post by: svobodný on August 14, 2011, 22:52
Are those of deceitful?
wtf?
Befriend a Thesaurus, nao.
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 14, 2011, 22:55
So what!
:-\
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Post by: Ellidi on August 14, 2011, 23:29
I was merely trying to emulate Ellidi's style or the style that I perceived as being his style of writing. I'm not sure I've succeeded in this endeavor, though.
You did not, because I frown upon non-British spelling varieties. Thus, I would always spell the last noun in your sentence endeavour.
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Post by: svobodný on August 14, 2011, 23:37
You did not, because I frown upon non-British spelling varieties. Thus, I would always spell the last noun in your sentence endeavour.
I've got a general question. Mind me telling why you somewhat ignore the words of Germanic origin in English?
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Post by: Ellidi on August 14, 2011, 23:39
I've got a general question. Mind me telling why you somewhat ignore the words of Germanic origin in English?
Feel free to state your conjecture. Oh, I thought you have one.

The reason is that most of them are false friends. Thus, shard, hound and the verb own are akin to German Scharte, Hund and gönnen, but their meaning differs significantly from the meaning of their German æquivalents. Whereas the meaning of words derived from Latin often coincides with the meaning in Latin, therefore they are easier to cope with.
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Post by: svobodný on August 14, 2011, 23:44
Feel free to state your conjecture.
Your vocabulary is mostly made of Latin-based words which are, unfortunately for you I suppose, not widely understood. In other words, it may seem for a simple person whose native language is not English, that you ignore the words of Germanic origin. Those words are a part of English language, for your information. I believe, you are a typical example of a Schoolbook English. Your vocabulary is great, but you often make no sense.
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Post by: Ellidi on August 14, 2011, 23:53
you ignore the words of Germanic origin.
They are scarce in number in comparison with the English vocabulary of Latin origin.
Those words are a part of English language, for your information.
Yes, an exiguous part (judging from their quantity, not their propagation in Tom, Dick and Harry's parlance).
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Post by: svobodný on August 14, 2011, 23:56
They are scarce in number in comparison with the English vocabulary of Latin origin.
do you imply, that they can be ommited in the written language?
Yes, an exiguous part (judging from their quantity, not their propagation in common speech).
spoken language form must prevail of forums, while written langauge form must stay in the documents.

i think i'm talking to a wall right now. seriously. a wall. :(
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Post by: Ellidi on August 15, 2011, 00:06
do you imply, that they can be ommited in the written language?
omitted
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Post by: Квас on August 15, 2011, 00:10
In fact, a few messages ago Ellidi confessed that there’s much to be desired about his proficiency (sorry to say this). I mean this quotation:

Thus, I recollect the verb extinguish easier than put off, ignite easier than kindle and so forth. Consequently, I adjoin the first words of these to my sentence rather than the second ones (provided they are synonyms, otherwise I take their semantic dissimilarity into account).

Actually synonyms deserve more careful attention. The meaning is but one characteristic of a word; there are also connotation, style, idiomatic uses (in most general sense). Roughly speaking, if a word is marked ‘bookish’ in a dictionary, it would be a misuse to put it in in a casual chat. Synonyms are as likely interchangeable as not; even if they are, they are hardly ever identical. One has to pay attention to such niceties so as to gain the appreciation of the language. Notice that I speak of standard modern English, not of the colloquial language.

Even if one chooses to use an obsolete variant of English for communication (some of our fellow-forumers are liable to ;)), the method is just the same. One merely has to consult out-of-date dictionaries.
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Post by: svobodný on August 15, 2011, 00:12
omitted
thanks
The meaning is but one characteristic of a word; there are also connotation, style, idiomatic uses (in most general sense).
I give up. Ellidi ignores my messages. It is pointless to talk with a man like him.
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Post by: nivtirB on August 15, 2011, 00:15
Till now Ellidi barked, now he begins to nipple by the heels.
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Post by: Ellidi on August 15, 2011, 00:22
Till now Ellidi barked, now he begins to nipple by the heels.
Methinks messages with such disparaging content infuse contention, animosity and vexation into the current conversation.
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Post by: svobodný on August 15, 2011, 00:23
Methinks messages with such disparaging content infuse contention, animosity and vexation into the current conversation.
Sensitive, aren't we?
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Post by: Квас on August 15, 2011, 00:29
to nipple

You know, I adore such words, precise and picturesque. ;up: Author, write more. :)
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Post by: nivtirB on August 15, 2011, 00:53
Till now Ellidi barked, now he begins to nipple by the heels.
Methinks messages with such disparaging content infuse contention, animosity and vexation into the current conversation.

Me thinks they infuse some sense into a conversation.
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 15, 2011, 08:14
The reason is that most of them are false friends. Thus, shard, hound and the verb own are akin to German Scharte, Hund and gönnen, but their meaning differs significantly from the meaning of their German æquivalents.
gönnen?! You should of said eignen.
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Post by: Ellidi on August 15, 2011, 10:05
gönnen?! You should of said eignen.
No, not the verb own meaning besitzen, but the one that means zugeben (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/own#Etymology_3).
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Post by: Искандер on August 15, 2011, 10:26
Your conversation is soo fascinating, I've even...  being washed out.

May we to talk about rails, loks and either-direction automatic block systems' advantages in production sequences of different types of necks and leads?
Do we?
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 15, 2011, 11:32
gönnen?! You should of said eignen.
No, not the verb own meaning besitzen, but the one that means zugeben (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/own#Etymology_3).
Thanks, I wasn't even aware that such a meaning existed.
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 15, 2011, 11:36
Your conversation is soo fascinating, I've even...  being washed out.

May we to talk about rails, loks and either-direction automatic block systems' advantages in production sequences of different types of necks and leads?
Do we?
Nah, forget all that railroad bs, lets talk about something interesting and controversial  :green:
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Post by: Искандер on August 15, 2011, 11:45
Nah, forget all that railroad bs, lets talk about something interesting and controversial
What can be more controversial than trafic-control? You can by your own hands direct trains, one by one, one by one, head on head... ups. I've leaked...
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 15, 2011, 11:46
to nipple
You know, I adore such words, precise and picturesque. ;up: Author, write more. :)
And what does it mean? It's absent from my dictionary  :(
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Post by: Квас on August 15, 2011, 11:55
to nipple
You know, I adore such words, precise and picturesque. ;up: Author, write more. :)
And what does it mean? It's absent from my dictionary  :(

Personally I mixed it up with ‘to nibble ~ to bite slightly’. However pretty they may be, such words tend to slip out of my memory.

As for ‘to nipple’, now I’m at a loss, unless it’s a typo.
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Post by: Квас on August 15, 2011, 12:12
What do you think of audio support in teaching dead languages? ali hoseyn came down on me elsewhere insisting that audio in Akkadian was a moronic idea, while I argued that any means are good as far as they lead to reading fluency.

(Corrections of the sequence of tenses needed!  :o)
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 15, 2011, 12:55
What do you think of audio support in teaching dead languages? ali hoseyn came down on me elsewhere insisting that audio in Akkadian was a moronic idea, while I argued that any means are good as far as they lead to reading fluency.
Well, maybe not completely moronic, but certainly not very useful and popular among the "enlightened".
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Post by: Искандер on August 15, 2011, 13:39
What do you think of audio support in teaching dead languages?
Not moronic, but if that's not some like Lazarus' cup — it's just for just. We know something on writing akkadian clearly, but we know something on spoken one only more or less approximately.
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Post by: Квас on August 15, 2011, 14:03
What do you think of audio support in teaching dead languages? ali hoseyn came down on me elsewhere insisting that audio in Akkadian was a moronic idea, while I argued that any means are good as far as they lead to reading fluency.
Well, maybe not completely moronic, but certainly not very useful and popular among the "enlightened".

Why do you call it useless?

What do you think of audio support in teaching dead languages?
Not moronic, but if that's not some like Lazarus' cup — it's just for just. We know something on writing akkadian clearly, but we know something on spoken one only more or less approximately.

Before I reply anything, could you specify what the Lazarus’ cup is?
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Post by: Искандер on August 15, 2011, 14:31
what the Lazarus’ cup is?
Sumethyng from "Clara Loft". The cup, in which JX's spellings imbeded while He was resurrecting Lazarus.
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Post by: Квас on August 15, 2011, 15:10
What do you think of audio support in teaching dead languages?
Not moronic, but if that's not some like Lazarus' cup — it's just for just. We know something on writing akkadian clearly, but we know something on spoken one only more or less approximately.

Again I’m not sure about ‘just for just’, yet I hope now I don’t miss your point. :)

As I see it, audio is not a goal in itself, but rather a teaching tool. It does not aim at teaching any ‘correct’ pronunciation: in fact if, say, Akkadian words are in some manner uttered by professors or students, it would be quite all right to record them. Nor do I argue for compiling dialogues or inventing quasi-spoken language: I have in mind recording original texts. Finally, audio must not be used alone: a student should combine it with other techniques. The more memory types are involved, the better (which is a commonplace in psychology).

In order to achieve reading fluency, a student has to get used to the language. I think listening to the same text over and over again contributes a lot to this task: the student memorises vocabulary and improves his grammar skills, he just absorbs the language. This can be done e. g. when going somewhere or washing the dishes. :)
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Post by: nivtirB on August 15, 2011, 23:40
As for ‘to nipple’, now I’m at a loss, unless it’s a typo.

You are right: it was a typo. Sorry. But nice trotzdem. :)
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 15, 2011, 23:48
As I see it, audio is not a goal in itself, but rather a teaching tool. It does not aim at teaching any ‘correct’ pronunciation: in fact if, say, Akkadian words are in some manner uttered by professors or students, it would be quite all right to record them. Nor do I argue for compiling dialogues or inventing quasi-spoken language: I have in mind recording original texts. Finally, audio must not be used alone: a student should combine it with other techniques. The more memory types are involved, the better (which is a commonplace in psychology).
This is a very brave proposal, in fact I almost agree with what you've said, but I'm afraid the long-established tradition of teaching dead languages will eventually lead us to consider some other options. (http://lingvoforum.net/index.php/topic,10977.msg965473.html#msg965473)  :)
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Post by: Квас on August 16, 2011, 00:08
As I see it, audio is not a goal in itself, but rather a teaching tool. It does not aim at teaching any ‘correct’ pronunciation: in fact if, say, Akkadian words are in some manner uttered by professors or students, it would be quite all right to record them. Nor do I argue for compiling dialogues or inventing quasi-spoken language: I have in mind recording original texts. Finally, audio must not be used alone: a student should combine it with other techniques. The more memory types are involved, the better (which is a commonplace in psychology).
This is a very brave proposal, in fact I almost agree with what you've said, but I'm afraid the long-established tradition of teaching dead languages will eventually lead us to consider some other options.  :)

:up:

I don’t care about actual instruction of Assyriologists or whoever. I’m just stating the obvious fact that modern technologies can make teaching and learning more efficient. If they are such elitists that they prefer clay tablets to all other technologies, it’s up to them. :)
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Post by: Искандер on August 16, 2011, 09:46
Well, signal towers and so on would be much better theme to discuss. I swear.
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Post by: Квас on August 16, 2011, 11:17
Come on then. :)
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Post by: Искандер on August 16, 2011, 11:19
So have zou ever seen trains racing each other?
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Post by: Квас on August 16, 2011, 11:20
Never.
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Post by: Искандер on August 16, 2011, 11:25
I have. That's funny. It becomes possible when station have several backbones those connect two different pairs of sections without intersecting and the trains have the same time throughfeed proceeding.
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Post by: Искандер on August 16, 2011, 11:30
Also on double-track sections on Lviv RW of UZ they make fun.
They use both tracks for both down & up trains.
Dispatch Hell!
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Post by: Искандер on August 16, 2011, 12:01
All you men live in cities but nobody knows even approximately the way all those technothings work. Not only rail, but phone, plump, power... Who prowides... Who attends...
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Post by: huaxia on August 16, 2011, 18:40
i wish i could go somewhere abroad at least for three days, splash around the sea, wander in a huge city with a map, just to be a tourist with a stupid Panama hat who takes pictures all around, hang out in some nice clubs, give way to adrenalin on the rides, sit at the romantic beach and have some beer with a pretty girl...

any mistakes here btw?
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Post by: Уттыԓьын on August 16, 2011, 19:27
any mistakes here btw?
Not mistakes exactly – nothing you’ve written seems to me grammatically, syntactically, or semantically impossible (informally, at any rate) – but I’d probably have rearranged the word-order or slightly rephrased in a couple of places.

I wish I could go abroad somewhere for at least three days, splash around in the sea, wander in a huge city with a map, just be a tourist with a stupid Panama hat who takes pictures of everything, hang out in some nice clubs, get an adrenaline-rush on the rides, have a romantic time sitting on the beach and having a beer with a pretty girl...

Something like that, maybe.
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Post by: huaxia on August 16, 2011, 19:39
Thanks a lot! :))
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Post by: Искандер on August 16, 2011, 20:19
Wasily, is your english originally from school program?
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Post by: Искандер on August 16, 2011, 21:27
The sonorous voice with deep-toned notes is so splendid. Last week I've heared a lot ov — cello-solo, Tarja Turunen, Edyta Gorniak, Erika Náray...
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Post by: Квас on August 16, 2011, 21:30
I’ve been in the mood for David Bowie lately.
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Post by: autolyk on August 16, 2011, 21:34
What is the album?
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Post by: Искандер on August 16, 2011, 21:39
David Bowie lately.
Why d́you ÅAS lately?
And where is that deepness I said on in Bowies voice?
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Post by: Квас on August 16, 2011, 21:44
autolyk, in case you mean Bowie: mainly Aladdin Sane, Ziggy Stardust, and Scary Monsters. Some time ago I downloaded a lot of albums for my mother and got taste for Bowie myself, even though I hadn’t been his fan before.

And where is that deepness I said on in Bowies voice?

Where is that Bowie I said on in your deepness? ;D
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Post by: autolyk on August 16, 2011, 21:48
mainly Aladdin Sane, Ziggy Stardust, and Scary Monsters.
This is great. My favourit track from "Ziggy Stardust" is the Starman.
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Post by: Квас on August 16, 2011, 21:59
This is great. My favourit track from "Ziggy Stardust" is the Starman.

I like it. ;up: On the other hand, I can hardly pick out a favourite track: for me it’s a kind of album that one likes entirely. :) Perhaps, Five Years or Lady Stardust.
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Post by: Искандер on August 16, 2011, 22:02
Whereas we speak on tenor-row male voices I've got hooked on tenore spinto di Dolhai Attila. Even he has more many deep notes than your Bowie.
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Post by: Квас on August 16, 2011, 22:05
I can’t keep in my curiosity any more: vad är det?

ÅAS
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Post by: Искандер on August 16, 2011, 22:11
I can’t keep in my curiosity any more: vad är det?
that was my own kb+layout wich is adjusted to english language and contains å instead w.
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Post by: Karakurt on August 16, 2011, 22:17
The sentence is still non-readable.
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Post by: Искандер on August 16, 2011, 22:34
The sentence is still non-readable.
The same Kwas' one was.
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Post by: Квас on August 16, 2011, 22:40
Искандер, shall I clarify anything?

As for voice qualities, I admit I’m quite ignorant of it.
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Post by: Искандер on August 17, 2011, 00:26
Do not worry. It's just I am a grumbler & nebbech. Nischt zorgh.
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Post by: huaxia on August 17, 2011, 12:12
Wasily, is your english originally from school program?
Yes, it is. Is it that appreciable? Is something wrong with my sentences??
Actually it's my major now in the university, but I have to admit that I didn't make any big progress since high-school, and this year I realized that I totally suck at oral translation and my vocabulary is really limited. I think it's mostly because I'm studying three languages at once, paying less attention to English.
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Post by: Искандер on August 17, 2011, 12:26
Yes, it is. Is it that appreciable? Is something wrong with my sentences??
Nope at all I supposed something opposite.
I have epic problems with oral communication too. T's so manky...
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Post by: Квас on August 17, 2011, 14:02
I have epic problems with oral communication too.

I have no problems. No one to talk to. ;D
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Post by: autolyk on August 17, 2011, 15:54
Also to talk about. :)
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Post by: Konay on August 18, 2011, 00:36
People, English is BORING!
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Post by: Квас on August 18, 2011, 00:37
People, English is BORING!

To whom how. ;D
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Post by: Квас on August 18, 2011, 00:46
Konay, if you can write in French or Latin, you’re welcome! Unfortunately, my German is somewhat rusty now.
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Post by: Konay on August 18, 2011, 01:00
Konay, if you can write in French or Latin, you’re welcome! Unfortunately, my German is somewhat rusty now.

I wish I could. I can only speak Russian and English at a somewhat decent level. As you can see, I'm a lazy bastard ;)
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Post by: Konay on August 18, 2011, 01:02
People, English is BORING!

To whom how. ;D

It is very Russian to say that ;) See, how not boring Russian is! :)
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Post by: Квас on August 18, 2011, 01:11
It’s from a joke:

— How much clock?
— Six watch.
— Such much?
— To whom how…
— Who you?
— Who я?!
— Too MGIMO finished?
— A-a-a-ask!..
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Post by: DarkEuge on August 19, 2011, 14:56
 :D Never heard it before! But speaking seriously - do you know that Russian English is quite a dialect already? They call it Ruslish. For example, they say "an intercity call" instead of  "a long-distance call".  :)
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Post by: Квас on August 19, 2011, 15:19
Really? :) Where do they say so?
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Post by: DarkEuge on August 19, 2011, 18:57
In Russia, I think :). But I'm afraid I made a mistake because the article where I found it is here (http://www.philology.ru/linguistics3/safonova-00.htm) and the phrase was "interurban call".  :-[
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Post by: Искандер on August 19, 2011, 20:52
I found it is here and the phrase was "interurban call".  :-[
If you means "межгород" than you/they have a mistake.
Interurban calls are something ex.g. I have here at my place.
My number is not a 44-***, but 51-44-*** instead. Also I can make calls to different towns of my rayon and to Stal too using not 496-52-***** but 52-**-*** instead.
This is interurban.
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Post by: Квас on August 19, 2011, 21:51
I think we can safely trust Искандер in what concerns all sorts of communications. :)
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 19, 2011, 22:02
Although we may face some difficulties when we actually begin to apply his advice in practice :)
because as it turns out not everyone here he speaks to is able to understand his gibberish
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Post by: Искандер on August 19, 2011, 22:19
Although we may face some difficulties when we actually begin to apply his advice in practice :)
because as it turns out not everyone here he speaks to is able to understand his gibberish
f.o., dude!
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Post by: Квас on August 19, 2011, 22:20
We’ll ask him over and over for explanations in case we need them! ;D Never mind, Искандер. :)
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 19, 2011, 22:25
f.o., dude!
No offense intended there, pal!
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Post by: Искандер on August 19, 2011, 22:31
No offense intended there, pal!
That's not offense, just harsh language
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Post by: Искандер on August 19, 2011, 22:32
It was in homish way, Cattley...
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 19, 2011, 22:47
It was in homish way, Cattley...
Homish?  :??? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homish
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Post by: Искандер on August 20, 2011, 00:48
:???
Normal British "homish", like "homey"
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Post by: iopq on August 20, 2011, 07:16
Wasily, is your english originally from school program?
Yes, it is. Is it that appreciable? Is there something wrong with my sentences??
Actually it's my major now in the university, but I have to admit that I didn't make any big progress since high-school, and this year I realized that I totally suck at oral translation and my vocabulary is really limited. I think it's mostly because I'm studying three languages at once, paying less attention to English.
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 20, 2011, 15:43
Why this thread is so unpopular? Where is everyone?  :what:
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Post by: Искандер on August 20, 2011, 15:50
I'm here, Cattley
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Post by: Karakurt on August 20, 2011, 15:54
Does English become simpler?
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Post by: Квас on August 20, 2011, 15:54
Why this thread is so unpopular? Where is everyone?  :what:

Present!
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Post by: Demetrius on August 20, 2011, 16:00
Why this thread is so unpopular?
Because English is boring, obviously.
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Post by: Квас on August 20, 2011, 16:03
The idlers have nothing to talk about. :)
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 20, 2011, 16:03
Does English become simpler?
Maybe that's what has become of your English?  :donno:
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Post by: Karakurt on August 20, 2011, 16:06
Why? Must "Is becoming" be used? What tendencies do exist?
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 20, 2011, 16:17
"Is becoming" be used?
I think so.
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Post by: Demetrius on August 20, 2011, 16:19
Why? Must "Is becoming" be used?
I believe yes, since it's an action in progress at the moment of speaking.

There are lots of cases when different tenses should be used, but I've managed to forget all the grammar already. ;D
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Post by: Искандер on August 20, 2011, 16:24
There are lots of cases when different tenses should be used, but I've managed to forget all the grammar already.
Why can't we just speak English, not choose correct tenses and other stuff?
I think there is no need in tenses so.
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Post by: Karakurt on August 20, 2011, 16:25
Is it ok to use past simple instead of perfect?
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Post by: Искандер on August 20, 2011, 16:27
Is it ok to use past simple instead of perfect?
It's quite all-right when you mean something not so perfect but rather simple.
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Post by: Demetrius on August 20, 2011, 16:32
There are lots of cases when different tenses should be used, but I've managed to forget all the grammar already.
Why can't we just speak English, not choose correct tenses and other stuff?
Well... Theoretically we can speak English without choosing tenses, but the result may turn out to be not really English. ;D

Quote
I think there is no need in tenses so.
I think there is no need in English, so...
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Post by: Demetrius on August 20, 2011, 16:35
Is it ok to use past simple instead of perfect?
You are unlikely to run into misunderstanding speaking like this, I guess.
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Post by: Искандер on August 20, 2011, 16:36
Well... Theoretically we can speak English without choosing tenses, but the result may turn out to be not really English. ;D
But englishmen do! They speak. They do not choose. & they're happy!
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Post by: Demetrius on August 20, 2011, 16:36
Is it ok to use past simple instead of perfect?
You are unlikely to run into misunderstanding speaking like this, I guess.
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Post by: Demetrius on August 20, 2011, 16:38
Well... Theoretically we can speak English without choosing tenses, but the result may turn out to be not really English. ;D
But englishmen do! They speak. They do not choose. & they're happy!
It's because of their rotten capitalistic outlook! We should preserve the real beauty of the truъ English language, which is unfortunately so rare nowadays. ;)
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Post by: Искандер on August 20, 2011, 16:41
We should preserve the real beauty of the truъ English language, which is unfortunately so rare nowadays. ;)
We shall I say!
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 20, 2011, 16:43
It's because of their rotten capitalistic outlook! We should preserve the real beauty of the truъ English language, which is unfortunately so rare nowadays. ;)
We should restrain ourselves from looking at the rotting corpse of Western capitalism lest it become too alluring   :)
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Post by: Квас on August 20, 2011, 16:53
Absent.
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Post by: Karakurt on August 20, 2011, 17:00
Absent
You like to drink this?
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Post by: Искандер on August 20, 2011, 17:09
You like to drink this?
You forget "Do".
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Post by: Demetrius on August 20, 2011, 17:13
You like to drink this?
You forget "Do".
An American once told me that asking questions with an affirmative word order is possible, when the speaker expects a positive answer. ;D

But, of course, this is by no means truъ English.
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Post by: iopq on August 20, 2011, 17:19
Absent
You like to drink this?
Only negroes pronounce absinthe as absent  ;D
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Post by: Искандер on August 20, 2011, 17:54
An American once told me that asking questions with an affirmative word order is possible, when the speaker expects a positive answer. ;D

But, of course, this is by no means truъ English.
Insted of that... itąs totallz possible in Smolensk's tongue of Ru-Be-language continuum. Both wordorder & intonation are positive, but the sentence, sudden, is a question.
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Post by: Искандер on August 20, 2011, 17:54
Only negroes pronounce absinthe as absent  ;D
We are not rasists.
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Post by: Квас on August 20, 2011, 21:22
Why this thread is so unpopular? Where is everyone?  :what:
Present!
Absent
You like to drink this?

Rather I’m recalling good old days at school. What date is it today? Ivanov!—Present!—Petrov!—He is absent today! Who is on duty today? ::)
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 20, 2011, 21:46
Rather I’m recalling good old days at school. What date is it today? Ivanov!—Present!—Petrov!—He is absent today! Who is on duty today? ::)
Were they really that good? I remember my doubts about my schoolteachers' English proficiency, their rather lame attempts to teach us and so on.
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Post by: Квас on August 20, 2011, 21:57
I was only decently teached English in the 6—8th forms.

People tend to forget evil things; actually I can’t remember anything especially nasty about that time.
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 20, 2011, 21:58
Our English teacher at the university was quite good and she had an American accent  ::)  having spent several years studying in the DC.
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 20, 2011, 22:02
I was only decently teached English in the 6—8th forms.

People tend to forget evil things; actually I can’t remember anything especially nasty about that time.
Are you sure dear Quasus you were "teached" back in school? Was it painful?  :D
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Post by: Karakurt on August 20, 2011, 22:12
teached
taught?
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Post by: Квас on August 20, 2011, 22:13
I can’t say my teachers were incompetent. Rather they didn’t take pains, since English was not my major. I think the only new thing I learned at the university classes was the word ‘arbitrary’. ;D In fact, some of my mates could hardly read. By and large, I consider myself an autodidact.
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Post by: Квас on August 20, 2011, 22:17
teached
taught?

Mea culpa. :)

Are you sure dear Quasus you were "teached" back in school? Was it painful?  :D

Now I’d rather say I was taught, and here I stand. :)
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Post by: Demetrius on August 20, 2011, 22:25
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People tend to forget evil things; actually I can’t remember anything especially nasty about that time.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. When I think about the school days, I usually recall bad things. :о

Though the subjects I was taught weren't that bad.
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 20, 2011, 22:29
I think the only new thing I learned at the university classes was the word ‘arbitrary’. ;D In fact, some of my mates could hardly read. By and large, I consider myself an autodidact.
Well, in the university they split us students into groups based on how well we performed in an English proficiency test. I wasn't a fluent English speaker then, but I passed the test and got assigned to a group where most people were able to express themselves in English and one girl was quite fluent, having just returned back to Russia after a long stay in the US.
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 11:25
I can’t remember anything especially nasty about that time.
T's soo pity...
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 11:29
When I think about the school days, Í usually recall bad things.
So, you can narrate us something nasty.

Can anybody also give me a cue... — How can we translate properly russian sentences with "же" in Eng?
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Post by: Karakurt on August 21, 2011, 11:56
You can't translate же 1:1.
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Post by: Квас on August 21, 2011, 11:59
If же is without adversative force, it serves to emphasize. Emphatic constructions in English is something worth discussing. Here are some examples from Lingvo:

я же говорил вам об этом! — I did tell you about it!; didn't I tell you about it! ты же не серьезно, да? — surely you don't mean it, do you? он же меня совсем не знает — but he doesn't know me at all почему вы ему не верите? Он же доктор — Why don't you trust him? He is a doctor after all
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Post by: Demetrius on August 21, 2011, 12:19
So, you can narrate us something nasty.
I'm not in a right mood, maybe next time. ;D

Can anybody also give me a cue... — How can we translate properly russian sentences with "же" in Eng?
Well, in fact, according to Lurkmore, the practice of adding zhe appeared as a translation of the practice of adding desu to every sentence, and should be traced back to the fansubs of the "Rozen Maiden" anime, so it is a kind of meme. I seriouslty doubt it is translatable.
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 17:33
Does anzbody knows the library, which someway is like uz-trans, and contains lot ov eng-lang-books, I was registered at but forgot every keyword to find it... ?
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Post by: Квас on August 21, 2011, 17:36
Perhaps library.nu (http://library.nu)? Formerly it was called gigapedia.
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 17:58
Xnx, though I have in mind something other...
Is it free lybrary?
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 18:02
Have I already been saying  that Nuristan islamization is a beeeeg sulphurous blackly?
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Post by: iopq on August 21, 2011, 18:04
Only negroes pronounce absinthe as absent  ;D
We are not racists.
Let's just PRETEND they don't have their own dialect because being a racist is bad, amirite?
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 18:23
Let's just PRETEND they don't have their own dialect because being a racist is bad, amirite?
Imeant there isn't any bad in speaking negroes' diallect. Also I presume negroes plunk ARE racistc.
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 19:07
Xnx, though I have in mind something other...
Is it free lybrary?
Besides, I meant literature books.
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Post by: Demetrius on August 21, 2011, 19:08
greylib?
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Post by: iopq on August 21, 2011, 19:09
Let's just PRETEND they don't have their own dialect because being a racist is bad, amirite?
Also I presume negroes plunk ARE racistc.
wat
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Post by: Demetrius on August 21, 2011, 19:11
iopq-san, please, pay attention to the "Вопрос о спрособе передачи определенной особенности человека" topic. We need your opinion there. ;D
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Post by: Ellidi on August 21, 2011, 19:32
People tend to forget evil things; actually I can’t remember anything especially nasty about that time.
I suppose I do not belong to those people. I can easily recollect disagreeable experience which had befallen me. Here I use recollect in the Kierkegaardian sense of huske. But I desist from reminiscing (erindre mig) about that kind of events, however irresistible the temptation may appear...
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People tend to forget evil things; actually I can’t remember anything especially nasty about that time.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. When I think about the school days, I usually recall bad things. :о
:+1:
she had an American accent
What a pity. Did you take to it?
one girl was quite fluent, having just returned back to Russia after a long stay in the US.
Had she adopted the overseas pronunciation?
should be traced back to the fansubs of the "Rozen Maiden" anime, so it is a kind of meme. I seriouslty doubt it is translatable.
Does anyone know what percentage of non-Japanese anime fans are fluent in Japanese?  :-\
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 19:50
wat
Negroes are racists.
I wonder if you didn't know that...
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Post by: iopq on August 21, 2011, 19:57
wat
Negroes are racists.
I wonder if you didn't know that...
saying this is racist  ;D
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 20:11
saying this is racist  ;D
Don't pretend negroes are white.
They are black and therefore they are named negroes.
Also mostly most of them are racists.
And I'm not.
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 20:13
Does anyone know what percentage of non-Japanese anime fans are fluent in Japanese?  :-\
that is measly miserable part of the least part of nobody of them.
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Post by: iopq on August 21, 2011, 20:51
saying this is racist  ;D
Don't pretend negroes are white.
They are black and therefore they are named negroes.
Also mostly most of them are racists.
And I'm not.
I'm not a racist either
Racism is a crime
and crime is for niggers
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 21:01
I'm not a racist either
Racism is a crime
and crime is for niggers
Now I like you say.
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Post by: Квас on August 21, 2011, 21:04
Is it free lybrary?

Yes, library.nu is free. There is fiction there, too.
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 21:59
fiction
fiction like fiction or rather fiction?
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Post by: Квас on August 21, 2011, 22:01
fiction
fiction like fiction or rather fiction?

What they call художественная литература.
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Post by: Искандер on August 21, 2011, 23:38
What they call художественная литература.
They call it literature. Fiction is mostly synonim. But it more prosaic, novelic & AE.
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Post by: iopq on August 22, 2011, 07:12
What they call художественная литература.
They call it literature. Fiction is mostly synonim. But it more prosaic, novelic & AE.
no, it's called fiction
otherwise there wouldn't be stories of people putting the Bible in the fiction section of a book store  ;D
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Post by: Искандер on August 22, 2011, 09:55
there wouldn't be
what what what!?
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Post by: iopq on August 22, 2011, 13:23
there wouldn't be
what what what!?
Conditional mood pointing to a counterfactual meaning
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Post by: Искандер on August 22, 2011, 13:27
Conditional mood pointing to a counterfactual meaning
I have listened one abkhayian legend a moment ago. I've understood only caшьақәа гьы амратәыла of over 200 words. So the same I see here.
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Post by: iopq on August 22, 2011, 20:22
Conditional mood pointing to a counterfactual meaning
I have listened one abkhayian legend a moment ago. I've understood only caшьақәа гьы амратәыла of over 200 words. So the same I see here.
I see, said the blind man
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Post by: Искандер on August 22, 2011, 20:48
I see, said the blind man
may be not see but hear... I've not understood you anyway...
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Post by: Demetrius on August 22, 2011, 20:58
Actually, it's the first time I see the word 'counterfactual'. It's meaning is easily understood from the constituent morphemes, but I've never seen such a word before. ;D
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 24, 2011, 10:09
I see, said the blind man
may be not see but hear... I've not understood you anyway...
Come on, have you no sense of humor?
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Post by: Konay on August 25, 2011, 03:30
saying this is racist  ;D
Don't pretend negroes are white.
They are black and therefore they are named negroes.
Also mostly most of them are racists.
And I'm not.
I'm not a racist either
Racism is a crime
and crime is for niggers
Vspomnil:

I hate two things in this life: racism and niggers
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Post by: From_Odessa on August 25, 2011, 03:32
I hate two things in this life: racism and niggers
Yeah, this joke is known in the whole world, I think )
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Post by: Искандер on August 25, 2011, 10:11
Yeah, this joke is known in the whole world, I think )
It was created in the dark ages by Langobards.
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Post by: From_Odessa on August 25, 2011, 14:48
It was created in the dark ages by Langobards.
But it's known very good today.
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Post by: Искандер on August 25, 2011, 14:50
But it's known very good today.
the same
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Post by: From_Odessa on August 25, 2011, 14:55
the same
What do you mean?
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Post by: Искандер on August 25, 2011, 14:58
What do you mean?
You've said the same I'd said.
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Post by: From_Odessa on August 25, 2011, 15:08
You've said the same I'd said.
Realy? I can't see it...
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Post by: Искандер on August 25, 2011, 15:10
It was created in the dark ages by Langobards.
=
it's known very good today.
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Post by: From_Odessa on August 25, 2011, 15:15
Искандер

No, I understood what you meant. I can't understand why you said that It was the same.
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Post by: Искандер on August 25, 2011, 15:19
Langobards have long beards....
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Post by: Квас on August 25, 2011, 15:23
Langobardi habent longas barbas… It sounds like the beginning of a rhyme.
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Post by: Валер on August 25, 2011, 15:24
Langobards have long beards....
Or rather they had.. ;)
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Post by: Валер on August 25, 2011, 15:28
Langobardi habent longas barbas… It sounds like the beginning of a rhyme.
Sounds just great) So many consonants) It reminds me somewhat Deutch ;D
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Post by: Квас on August 25, 2011, 15:31
Langobardi habent longas barbas… It sounds like the beginning of a rhyme.
Sounds just great) So many consonants) It reminds me somewhat Deutch ;D

Not so great for me. ;D It’s rather inelegant. It would be more classic to say langobardis longæ sunt barbæ (I’m in a mood for old-style Latin spelling).
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Post by: Валер on August 25, 2011, 15:46
Langobardi habent longas barbas… It sounds like the beginning of a rhyme.
Sounds just great) So many consonants) It reminds me somewhat Deutch ;D

Not so great for me. ;D It’s rather inelegant. It would be more classic to say langobardis longæ sunt barbæ (I’m in a mood for old-style Latin spelling).
Hm..but is it not a question of different construction here rather than that of spelling? And as for spelling.. I like your mood)
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Post by: Квас on August 25, 2011, 21:23
Hm..but is it not a question of different construction here rather than that of spelling? And as for spelling.. I like your mood)

Yes, it is. As for spelling, my remark just explains the ligature æ that is out of use nowadays.

In fact, old spelling impressed me not with its ligatures, but with the the idea behind its diacritics. The latter is intended to enable one to grasp the grammatical structure from the first glance. Take for example the following sentence from Erasmus:

Vitâ famâque incolumi, periit pecunia. With the life and the reputation intact, the money perished.

Without the circumflexes one needs to trace the sentence up to the third word so as to realise that vita and fama are in the ablative case.

Of course, the textbook-style orthography

Vītā fāmāque incolumī, periit pecūnia.

effectively deals with the problem, yet the phonetic information is excessive even for an intermediate student, and lots of macrons make the text look rather ugly, don’t they?

I understand that these technicalities may be of interest only for myself, but this thread is  anyway intended for English flood, doesn’t it? :)
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Post by: Валер on August 25, 2011, 21:56
Hm..but is it not a question of different construction here rather than that of spelling? And as for spelling.. I like your mood)

Yes, it is. As for spelling, my remark just explains the ligature æ that is out of use nowadays.

In fact, old spelling impressed me not with its ligatures, but with the the idea behind its diacritics. The latter is intended to enable one to grasp the grammatical structure from the first glance.
That's it, from the first glance, I like the idea too, though  diacritics here is something I know so little of)
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Post by: Квас on August 25, 2011, 22:15
That's it, from the first glance, I like the idea too, though  diacritics here is something I know so little of)

Neither do I. :) What’s more, the use of diacritics varied in time. The circumflex in the ablative ending was the most constant feature.

If you are interested, you can learn a little more from my blog post (http://quasus.livejournal.com/890.html) (yes, I do have a blog! 8-)).
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Post by: Искандер on August 25, 2011, 22:25
I do have
emphatic, or something bad?
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Post by: Квас on August 25, 2011, 22:28
I do have
emphatic, or something bad?
.
Emphatic. For a long time I thought I had nothing to tell the world, but finally I decided that the world didn’t need read my blog. ;D
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Post by: Валер on August 25, 2011, 22:31
I do have
emphatic, or something bad?
.
Emphatic. For a long time I thought I had nothing to tell the world, but finally I decided that the world didn’t need read my blog. ;D
Why сonceal your thoughts from this world as Iskander says)
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 25, 2011, 23:27
didn’t need __ read my blog.
:???  :-\
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Post by: Квас on August 25, 2011, 23:32
didn’t need __ read my blog.
:???  :-\

As a modal verb ‘needn’t’ takes the infinitive without to. I wasn’t sure about its past tence, so I just googled ‘didn’t need read’ and got a good deal of results.
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Post by: Искандер on August 25, 2011, 23:33
Why not "don't need read___ my..."   ???
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Post by: Квас on August 25, 2011, 23:34
The verb in the main clause was in the past tence: ‘decided’. Else it would be ‘needn’t read’, and the grammar is OK.

I could write ‘was not obliged to’: a bit more bookish, but again the grammar is OK.
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 25, 2011, 23:41
As a modal verb ‘needn’t’ takes the infinitive without to. I wasn’t sure about its past tence, so I just googled ‘didn’t need read’ and got a good deal of results.
Well, some of these results do not apply here, e.g. sentences like "He clearly could have sold you something you didn't need. Read your svc guide in your glove box manual for appropriate svc intervals" or "They didn't need (...) Read More (...)"
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Post by: Квас on August 25, 2011, 23:46
Well, some of these results do not apply here

I would be surprised if they all did. :) A couple examples from native speakers would suffice (a single instance in a book would be even better). The only drawback of the Google method is that it doesn’t distinguish between natives and non-natives. ;D

I don’t feel like plunging into a grammar reference right now. Perhaps later…
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 25, 2011, 23:46
I'm not a big fan of linguistic prescription, but let's have a look at a note on usage from my dictionary:
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Usage Note: Depending on the sense, the verb need behaves sometimes like an auxiliary verb (such as can or may) and sometimes like a main verb (such as want or try). When used as a main verb, need agrees with its subject, takes to before the verb following it, and combines with do in questions, negations, and certain other constructions: He needs to go. Does he need to go so soon? He doesn't need to go. When used as an auxiliary verb, need does not agree with its subject, does not take to before the verb following it, and does not combine with do: He needn't go. Need he go so soon? The auxiliary forms of need are used primarily in present-tense questions, negations, and conditional clauses. Unlike can and may, auxiliary need has no form for the past tense like could and might.

(emphasis mine)
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Post by: Квас on August 25, 2011, 23:48
Thanks, Чайник777. You confirm my worst suspicions. I wonder how they express lack of necessity in the past.
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Post by: iopq on August 26, 2011, 00:16
I do have
emphatic, or something bad?
.
Emphatic. For a long time I thought I had nothing to tell the world, but finally I decided that the world didn’t need to read my blog. ;D
fyp
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Post by: Квас on August 26, 2011, 00:27
Let it be decisive. :)
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Post by: Искандер on August 26, 2011, 10:20
fyp
is the f a t or the y a nothing?
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Post by: Уттыԓьын on August 26, 2011, 14:16
I wonder how they express lack of necessity in the past.

If you mean lack of necessity using auxiliary ‘need’, then ‘needn’t’ with the perfect infinitive (without ‘to’). But the meaning is different.

1.   “the world didn’t need to read my blog” : there was no necessity and it may or may not have happened
2.   “the world needn’t have read my blog” : there was no necessity, but it did happen

Alternatively, you can use ‘need’ as a nominal:

3.   “there was no need for the world to read my blog”

Or you can use the past tense of ‘have to’:

4.   “the world didn’t have to read my blog”
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Post by: Квас on August 26, 2011, 15:25
Thanks, Уттыԓьын. I think I would have chosen #3 or #4. I guess #2 shouldn’t be used in a subordinate clause if the verb of the main clause is in a past tence.

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Post by: Чайник777 on August 28, 2011, 17:58
looks like this thread died out again :(
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Post by: Искандер on August 28, 2011, 18:26
Nop!
I want to play KV626 klawier
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Post by: Hellerick on August 28, 2011, 19:16
There was Faina Ranevskaya's anniversary these days. How about translating some of her quotes (http://ru.wikiquote.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F) into English?

Like this:
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Душа не жопа — высраться не может.
A soul is not an arse — you can't just poop all the shit out of it.
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Женщины, конечно, умнее. Вы когда-нибудь слышали о женщине, которая бы потеряла голову только от того, что у мужчины красивые ноги?
Of course women are smarter. Have you ever heard about a woman who lost her mind just because some man had a pair of pretty legs?
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Вас не смущает,что я курю? — Когда администратор театра увидел её в гримерке абсолютно голой.
You aren't embarrased about me smoking? — When the theatre manager saw her in her dressing room stark naked.
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 29, 2011, 00:45
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Вас не смущает,что я курю? — Когда администратор театра увидел её в гримерке абсолютно голой.
You aren't embarrased about me smoking? — When the theatre manager saw her in her dressing room stark naked.
I would suggest Do you mind ... or something like that.
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Post by: Konay on August 29, 2011, 01:35
Женщины, конечно, умнее. Вы когда-нибудь слышали о женщине, которая бы потеряла голову только от того, что у мужчины красивые ноги?
Of course women are smarter. Have you ever heard about a woman who lost her mind just because some man had a pair of pretty legs?

How about: Have you seen a woman who would loose her mind just seeing a man with pretty legs?
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Post by: iopq on August 29, 2011, 13:16
fyp
is the f a t or the y a nothing?
it stands for Fixed Your Post
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Post by: Искандер on August 29, 2011, 13:31
it stands for Fixed Your Post
one another hard-fuccked acronym...
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 29, 2011, 13:57
it stands for Fixed Your Post
one another hard-fuccked acronym...
I think you could have refrained from such frivolities  :(
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Post by: Искандер on August 29, 2011, 14:27
I think you could have refrained from such frivolities  :(
Which d'u actually mean?
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Post by: Чайник777 on August 29, 2011, 15:01
Profanity
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Post by: iopq on August 29, 2011, 15:17
it stands for Fixed Your Post
one another hard-fuccked acronym...
один другого твердо-ебаное сокращение?

that doesn't even make sense in Russian
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Post by: Искандер on August 29, 2011, 15:40
один другого
Well, what is the proper way to say "ещё одно люто-ё****е"
Q.M.
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Post by: autolyk on August 29, 2011, 15:44
Which d'u actually mean?
What did you mean by that? :???
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Post by: Искандер on August 29, 2011, 15:46
What did you mean by that? :???
just as i said...
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Post by: iopq on August 29, 2011, 16:07
один другого
Well, what is the proper way to say "ещё одно люто-ё****е"
Q.M.
(yet another | one more) dumb fucking abbreviation
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Post by: Искандер on August 29, 2011, 16:10
well, bzia wubaáit'
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Post by: Fobee on December 3, 2011, 16:44
The things I thought to be banal caught me in a trap.
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Post by: Искандер on December 3, 2011, 20:37
Oh, don't you say!
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Post by: arseniiv on December 3, 2011, 20:52
I’ve made a piece of so-called enigmatic drum loop this morning. ‘T was a bit hard. But I don’t know how to continue that thing to 4—6-minute song.
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Post by: Искандер on December 3, 2011, 21:05
I’ve made a piece of so-called enigmatic drum loop this morning. ‘T was a bit hard. But I don’t know how to continue that thing to 4—6-minute song.
It's everbeing prob, bro. The only ones I've writen something more than two-three measures.
& now I'm trying to learn some Bach's Passacaglia.
It's... I hate Bach!
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Post by: Hébus on December 4, 2011, 20:39
now I'm trying to learn some Bach's Passacaglia.
It's... I hate Bach!
BWV 582?
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Post by: Feruza on December 4, 2011, 20:56
Hello!!! What are you discussing now?
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Post by: Квас on December 4, 2011, 21:13
Hello!!! What are you discussing now?

Nothing so far, as far as I can see. ;) Would you like to tell anything about your new language? I could easily understand the prepositions and other auxiliary words. :yes:
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Post by: autolyk on December 4, 2011, 22:01
Would you like to tell anything about your new language?
It is a good idea. Perhaps one will find something new, unexpected one)
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Post by: Квас on December 4, 2011, 22:15
By the way, Искандер, how are you getting on with your Swedish?
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Post by: Чайник777 on December 4, 2011, 23:37
By the way, Искандер, how are you getting on with your Swedish?
or getting off  ;D
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Post by: iopq on December 5, 2011, 03:27
Hello!!! What are you discussing now?

Nothing so far, as far as I can see. ;)
Good, good

Want to talk about something?
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Post by: Искандер on December 5, 2011, 10:52
There is just the trad to talk about something, isn't it?
But there is a problem inhere -- every talks something quite own. Или как там "собственный" пишется :???
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Post by: Искандер on December 5, 2011, 10:53
My svedish is poor & totally sad, by the way. Kväs?
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Post by: Квас on December 5, 2011, 11:47
But there is a problem inhere -- every talks something quite own.

It isn’t a problem. In the French thread nobody writes at all. Why should I have learned it then? >:

My svedish is poor & totally sad, by the way. Kväs?

Mine is just as poor, but hilarious. :) I’m in the mood for Scandinavian languages. Hur mår du? ;D
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Post by: Искандер on December 5, 2011, 12:12
Мордю. Очень мордю. But I'm soooo lazy lag.
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Post by: Квас on December 5, 2011, 12:19
BTW, I’ve found wonderful Swedish-Russian and Russian-Swedish dictionaries on rutracker. They are slightly buggy applications, but very comprehensive.
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Post by: Искандер on December 5, 2011, 13:15
you can share http any time. That's totally welcome.
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Post by: iopq on December 6, 2011, 06:28
There is just the trad to talk about something, isn't it?
But there is a problem inhere -- every talks something quite own. Или как там "собственный" пишется :???
*thread
*herein
*everyone
*talks about their own shit
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Post by: Demetrius on December 6, 2011, 06:35
I think these mistakes were intentional.
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Post by: iopq on December 6, 2011, 06:36
I think these mistakes were intentional.
Damn, he sure makes a habit of intentional misspellings
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Post by: Demetrius on December 6, 2011, 06:39
But his Russian spelling isn't better at all... ;D
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Post by: Искандер on December 6, 2011, 10:45
Damn, he sure makes a habit of intentional misspellings
But his Russian spelling isn't better at all... ;D
Втаки шо-то типа того.
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Post by: Искандер on December 6, 2011, 10:46
Though theese
*thread
*everyone
are totally tentional.
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Post by: Квас on December 6, 2011, 11:59
I like the ‘shit’ stuff. ;D
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Post by: Искандер on December 6, 2011, 12:02
Are you in copro?
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Post by: Искандер on December 6, 2011, 12:02
This question have to be forced into LF's mem.
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Post by: Квас on December 6, 2011, 12:03
Are you in copro?

Not actually. :)
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Post by: Искандер on December 6, 2011, 12:13
Not actually. :)
Omfff... that's sad.
And I am sitting in RSL & loorking through those pretty railways, trams and other stuff on tumblr. Come on with me!
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Post by: Квас on December 6, 2011, 12:21
It’s romantic. :) Unfortunately, I have another business this afternoon. I’m going to teach children. (Actually, forth year students.)
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Post by: Искандер on December 6, 2011, 12:31
I’m going to teach children. (Actually, forth year students.)
Children. 4th y-s-ns. That's the same things.
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Post by: Искандер on December 6, 2011, 12:32
What do you deliver them?
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Post by: Квас on December 6, 2011, 13:10
Some stuff about dynamical systems. It’s a special course and I’m still working on it.
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on December 6, 2011, 13:14
I speak English all the time. I am so tired of this disgusting poo of a langauge.
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Post by: Искандер on December 6, 2011, 13:19
I speak English all the time. I am so tired of this disgusting poo of a langauge.
D'you want to talk about it?
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Post by: Искандер on December 6, 2011, 13:21
It’s a special course
mastercourse show making?
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Post by: Чайник777 on December 6, 2011, 14:09
I speak English all the time.
Where? I wasn't aware English could be understood in Mari countryside  :what:
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Post by: autolyk on December 6, 2011, 14:53
English could be understood all over the world)
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Post by: arseniiv on December 6, 2011, 18:55
D'you want to talk about it?
ELISA⁈
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Post by: Искандер on December 6, 2011, 19:06
ELISA⁈
Is det an Acronym?
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Post by: Hellerick on December 6, 2011, 19:13
ELISA⁈
Is det an Acronym?

He meant ELIZA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA), apparently.
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Post by: Искандер on December 6, 2011, 19:36
Quote
> Tell me more...
* I've told you everything!
> Oh...  everything?
* Yep, You are th whore
> What makes you think I am th whore?
* You look so... whory
> Oh...  look so... whory?
* Yep
> OK... "You look so... whory". Tell me more.
* exactly
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on December 6, 2011, 19:53
Where?
On the internets. I've already started thinking in English.
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Post by: dagege on December 6, 2011, 19:58
me inglesh do speek, spanish no speek.

dataz muh lengwach, nay, nay, dataz inglesh, y'now.
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Post by: Искандер on December 6, 2011, 20:27
me inglesh do speek, spanish no speek.

dataz muh lengwach, nay, nay, dataz inglesh, y'now.
dugh spiac mi ianglis, n'spiac spainis...
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Post by: autolyk on December 6, 2011, 20:52
me inglesh do speek, spanish no speek.
dataz muh lengwach, nay, nay, dataz inglesh, y'now.
dugh spiac mi ianglis, n'spiac spainis...
Found siblings. ;D
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Post by: Квас on December 6, 2011, 20:56
It’s a special course
mastercourse show making?

Pardon?
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Post by: arseniiv on December 6, 2011, 22:54
I simply can’t stand when she sing. Ian Van Dahl I mean. Now it is quite old songs. [Now so many good things look like old so it’s hard to me not to feel same old as these. If I’m 200 instead of 20.] But I keep memories in. Memories of just only radio, and sunshine, and the only room of the previous apartment. Forever summer evening is in there. Why are they so sweet? And more, and more, and all memories alike are the Evening.
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Post by: Квас on December 6, 2011, 23:35
Do you want to say she was a star in the 19th century? (Althougth in this case we wouldn’t be able to restore her voice). :)
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Post by: Квас on December 7, 2011, 00:56
you can share http any time. That's totally welcome.

As I can see, you are not registered at rutracker and prefer file hostings. Varsågod:
http://depositfiles.com/files/nhyuhgz4o
It’s the Russian-Swedish one. The reverse one is just as huge, I’m going to upload it later.
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Post by: Искандер on December 7, 2011, 05:42
As I can see, you are not registered at rutracker
But my sister is.
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Post by: Квас on December 7, 2011, 12:11
Shall I upload the other dictionary as well?
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Post by: Искандер on December 7, 2011, 13:24
Shall I upload the other dictionary as well?
Just tell where is it in rutracker/
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Post by: arseniiv on December 7, 2011, 15:20
Do you want to say she was a star in the 19th century? (Althougth in this case we wouldn’t be able to restore her voice). :)
:D Oh no! This was In late 90s—beginning of 2000s. It was a fabulous time of lots of interesting musics. Now it seems to be not the same. Obviously, 2000 is not the same as 2010.
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Post by: Квас on December 7, 2011, 17:26
Искандер, varsågod:
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3160771
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3203551

Scanned pages with a search engine.
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Post by: Искандер on December 7, 2011, 18:14
Tack så mycket
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Post by: Konay on December 9, 2011, 02:15
hey guys, what's up with all those spelling mistakes you do? stop that sht, I beg you! :D
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Post by: iopq on December 9, 2011, 03:13
one doesn't do spelling mistakes, one makes them
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Post by: Fobee on December 9, 2011, 09:05
The thread seems to have arisen from the ashes. Perfect Infinitive is a great thing.
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Post by: Чайник777 on December 9, 2011, 23:44
I simply can’t stand when she sing. Ian Van Dahl I mean.
Why? What would you do when you hear she sing? Start crying?  :what:
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Post by: arseniiv on December 10, 2011, 01:04
Offtop
Я не нашёл ничего в хорошем по умолчанию смысле с таким оттенком.
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Post by: Квас on December 10, 2011, 01:09
Я не нашёл ничего в хорошем по умолчанию смысле с таким оттенком.

I didn’t find anything with positive connotation and a nuance of this kind. Is this all right? I admit I don’t understand the Russian version perfectly. ;D
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Post by: arseniiv on December 10, 2011, 01:18
It is possibly true.
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Post by: Квас on December 10, 2011, 01:20
Which nuance do you mean, BTW?
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Post by: arseniiv on December 10, 2011, 01:28
I’m going to think about it tomorrow. Good-bye!
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Post by: Konay on December 10, 2011, 02:14
one doesn't do spelling mistakes, one makes them

my bad, i guess russian is my first language and im kind of proud of it ;)
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Post by: arseniiv on December 10, 2011, 18:18
I’m going to think about it tomorrow. Good-bye!
Offtop
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Post by: Искандер on December 10, 2011, 18:21
What are you about, guys?
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Post by: Ellidi on December 10, 2011, 21:30
Offtop
Offtop
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Post by: iopq on December 10, 2011, 22:09
one doesn't do spelling mistakes, one makes them

my bad, i guess russian is my first language and im kind of proud of it ;)
I remember MY first time getting corrected
just say thanks and move on
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Post by: Искандер on December 10, 2011, 22:43
I remember MY first time getting corrected
Aren't you mother/father-tongued?
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Post by: iopq on December 10, 2011, 22:46
I remember MY first time getting corrected
Aren't you mother/father-tongued?
my mother tongue is Ukrainian
my first language is Russian
my native language is English
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Post by: Искандер on December 10, 2011, 22:49
my mother tongue is Ukrainian
my first language is Russian
my native language is English
Oh those weird soviet immigrants ::)
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Post by: Konay on December 12, 2011, 18:54
Oh those weird soviet immigrants ::)

Well, not all of the immigrants to the English-speaking countries are native speakers of English, that I know for sure :)
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Post by: Konay on December 12, 2011, 18:58
I remember MY first time getting corrected

Was it for the same kind of mistake?
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Post by: Искандер on December 12, 2011, 20:20
I'm boring... :(
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Post by: Квас on December 12, 2011, 20:23
By no means, you are quite hilarious! :)
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Post by: Искандер on December 12, 2011, 20:38
By no means, you are quite hilarious! :)
That you haven't seen mandibulaman yet...
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Post by: iopq on December 13, 2011, 03:36
I remember MY first time getting corrected

Was it for the same kind of mistake?
people who are getting used to getting corrected just say thanks and move on
your response can be classified as defensive
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Post by: Искандер on December 14, 2011, 17:37
Today I've flied on fighter.
Well, I took off, smooth, than I'd been searching for strip to land when met the ground at speed one point two muddling up'n'down flight.
Crush...
Crush crush.
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Post by: iopq on December 15, 2011, 03:47
*a fighter
*then
*crash
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Post by: Искандер on December 15, 2011, 09:47
таки есть такое слово "краш"
Пишется от именно так и используется в какчестве междометия. И в штатах его знають.
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Post by: Искандер on December 15, 2011, 09:50
а деепричастный оборот "перепутав перевернутый и нормальный полет" нормально передан? А то вот он меня больше всего смущщает.
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Post by: iopq on December 16, 2011, 05:08
crush это когда возмешь жетянку кокаколы и рукой сомнешь
когда самолет это crash

смысл оборота не понял, и потому комментария не было
я бы сказал "confusing upside-down and right-side-up"
speed 1.2 наверное Mach 1.2
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Post by: Искандер on December 16, 2011, 09:05
well, I've caught. And is it possible to explane the same thing about upside down blah blah blah in some shorter way? In russian it's just спутав перевёрнутый полёт и прямой.
And yep that was Mach of course. It's about 1000 kmph.
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Post by: iopq on December 16, 2011, 09:48
upside-down is the most common expression, and it is NO LONGER than the Russian word перевернутый, it's only three syllables vs. five!

and of course you can say "normal" or "correct" like in Russian

I think the shortest way would be like:
I was searching for a landing strip when I met the ground at Mach 1.2 while confusing up and down
SMASH!

of course this doesn't use the past perfect, which Americans don't use that often
more correctly said it would be "I had been searching" which is also continuous, but nobody talks like that
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Post by: Искандер on December 16, 2011, 10:37
Just to say flying plane is much more sophisticated than driving streetcar or auto.
It does totally not that you suppose it to do.
So trams are r'ly good.
And perfect progressive is too.
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Post by: Чайник777 on December 16, 2011, 17:11
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Are you in copro?
mind you, they usually say into something , not "in something"  :umnik:
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Post by: Квас on December 16, 2011, 17:53
mind you, they usually say into something , not "in something"  :umnik:

When no movement is meant? :-\
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Post by: Чайник777 on December 16, 2011, 23:03
mind you, they usually say into something , not "in something"  :umnik:

When no movement is meant? :-\

Quote
Are you into UFOs,Aliens, pleiadian, spiritual ideas?

Quote
We are a young couple who is into UFOs. We are looking to make some
 new friends who are also believers. We have a spot we know of with
 high UFO activities and want another couple to join us in our
 investigations. We just want to make new friends!
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Post by: Квас on December 16, 2011, 23:33
So to be into sth is to believe in some rubbish, right?
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Post by: Чайник777 on December 16, 2011, 23:41
So to be into sth is to believe in some rubbish, right?
Quote
are you into geometry or something?
Quote
Are you into physics as a geek or as a profession?
;D
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Post by: Квас on December 17, 2011, 00:59
If you think I can’t find out the meaning by myself, you are greatly mistaken! :P
Quote from: OALD
be into something
(informal) to be interested in something in an active way
He's into surfing in a big way.
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Post by: Чайник777 on December 17, 2011, 01:10
No, I don't think so. Just found some funny quotes  ;D
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Post by: Квас on December 17, 2011, 01:23
I think I’m going to remember it thanks to your quotes. :yes:
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Post by: rudaru on January 1, 2012, 21:05
I think Ur questions is very actuality...  8-)
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Post by: Искандер on January 1, 2012, 21:22
Facepalm 2012 takes it's first nominant...
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Post by: Hellerick on January 1, 2012, 21:53
Facepalm 2012 takes its first nominee...

Fixed

I still don't understand what it was supposed to mean though.
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Post by: Искандер on January 1, 2012, 21:56
I still don't understand what it was supposed to mean though.
It was ment to suppose rudaru...
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 11:26
Have bethought myself wherefor is this tread so unpopular :???
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Post by: Квас on March 24, 2012, 11:51
It’s immensely popular as compared with the International LF. :D
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Post by: autolyk on March 24, 2012, 12:02
Have you given up this fancy? :)
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 12:12
Have you given up this fancy?
Are you about me¿

& why not «ave you given this fancy up» — ?
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Post by: autolyk on March 24, 2012, 12:19
Are you about me¿
I said about Quasus’s International LF.
why not «ave you given this fancy up» — ?
I don’t know.. :donno:
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 12:21
HI!
That's me, Pedro. What are you speaking about?
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 12:22
Quasus
Multis multa lolatus sum.
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 12:23
That's me, Pedro.
¿Que tal vida? Pedro.
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Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 12:26
¡Estoy bien! ¿Cómo te sientes?
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 12:26
I don’t know.. :donno:
I heard there are some concret rules german verbs åith preps break apart, but I've never heard english verbs have such rules.
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Post by: autolyk on March 24, 2012, 12:28
I heard there are some concret rules german verbs åith preps break apart, but I've never heard english verbs have such rules.
I heard "to give up it" is more formal.
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Post by: Квас on March 24, 2012, 12:29
Have you given up this fancy? :)

By no means! Actually I’m not the sort of admin who excels in attracting people and the like, but everything is calm and quiet at least. I banned half a dozen spammers the other day even before they managed to post. 8-) I don’t know what strategy is that: they register, but put off spamming.
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Post by: Квас on March 24, 2012, 12:30
HI!
That's me, Pedro. What are you speaking about?

¡Hola, Pedro! Never mind, just flooding. :) Join us!
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 12:31
¡Estoy bien!
¡Enhorabuena! Me alegro de oir lo.
Que buen dìa para un poco oftopo.
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Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 12:33
HI!
That's me, Pedro. What are you speaking about?

¡Hola, Pedro! Never mind, just flooding. :) Join us!
Hola. I will join you! I think Lingvoforum' s an amazing site!
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Post by: Квас on March 24, 2012, 12:33
I don’t know.. :donno:
I heard there are some concret rules german verbs åith preps break apart, but I've never heard english verbs have such rules.

A pronoun is usually inserted between the verb itself and the adverb. AFAIK this is not true about nouns (i. e. usually they are not inserted).
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 12:34
I heard "to give up it" is more formal.
May be may be. I've encountered only "Hey, give it up, you bitch!" & so on.
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 12:35
AFAIK this is not true about nouns (i. e. usually they are not inserted).
Oh that's wherefor it's as it! I've cought.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 12:39
AND... WHERE IS SPANISH THEEME? :)
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 12:41
AND... WHERE IS SPANISH THEEME?
ahì (http://lingvoforum.net/index.php/topic,13065.25.html)
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Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 12:41
¡Estoy bien!
¡Enhorabuena!
¿POR QUÉ?
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Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 12:42
AND... WHERE IS SPANISH THEEME?
ahì (http://lingvoforum.net/index.php/topic,13065.25.html)
GRACIAS
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 12:44
¿POR QUÉ?
My spanish is muy muy worse then even english. So I meant something "That's soo good to hear you're well"
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Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 12:46
And now, bye-bYe!
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 12:47
Chao
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 12:48
int.lingvoforum.net — Международный ЛФ
Well I heard it's some another forum with no common accounts with this one, isn't it?
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Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 12:50
Chao
Oh, one more thing. Tell me please, is there ( I mean, in this forum) a girl, that has a nick Feruza?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Квас on March 24, 2012, 12:52
int.lingvoforum.net — Международный ЛФ
Well I heard it's some another forum with no common accounts with this one, isn't it?

Absolutely. :yes:
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: autolyk on March 24, 2012, 12:52
Tell me please, is there ( I mean, in this forum) a girl, that is called Feruza?
She’s banned.
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Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 12:53
I'M REALLY SORRY. :( WHY IS SHE BANNED?
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Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 12:58
I'M REALLY SORRY. :( WHY IS SHE BANNED?
WAS SHE AN ILL-MANNERED, OR SPOILED GIRL IN THIS FORUM? I DON'T THINK SO.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 13:01
Oh, one more thing. Tell me please, is there ( I mean, in this forum) a girl, that has a nick Feruza?
Since this day — yep! She's back.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 13:07
 :( :( :(
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Post by: autolyk on March 24, 2012, 13:08
She's back.
I think so.
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Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 13:13
AND... CAN YOU KEEP AWAY THE BAN?
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 13:16
AND... CAN YOU KEEP AWAY THE BAN?
Well, can you resurrect deads up of their tombs?
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Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 13:19
AND... CAN YOU KEEP AWAY THE BAN?
Well, can you resurrect deads up of their tombs?
No
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 13:20
No
Then you've just answered your question.
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Post by: Lodur on March 24, 2012, 13:26
So to be into sth is to believe in some rubbish, right?
Rather it means to be keen of something, to be a fan of something, to have some hobby. It may or may not be something rubbish.

The modern generation, unsurprisingly, are not really into stamps. (http://www.fool.co.uk/news/investing/2012/03/12/transcript-how-to-make-money-from-stamps.aspx)
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Post by: Lodur on March 24, 2012, 13:38
If you think I can’t find out the meaning by myself, you are greatly mistaken! :P
About my previous post: I'm just practicing. Didn't meant to sound like a guru. :)
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Post by: Квас on March 24, 2012, 13:43
Lodur, guru or not, thanks anyway! :)
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 15:08
BtW
Is that place:

Quote
Which reading-hall have you been at?

— good for preposition "@"?
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Post by: Квас on March 24, 2012, 15:32
I’d say it is.
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Post by: Ellidi on March 24, 2012, 15:34
Chao
I have never come across such a spelling of the Italian greeting. I am familiar with the original Italian ciao and the Germanised tschau, but chao looks truly appalling. Искандер, where did you perceive that spelling?
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 15:37
Искандер, where did you perceive that spelling?
I wrote it down in español orthography
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Post by: Ellidi on March 24, 2012, 15:41
I'm just practicing
Please do not consider my remark a cavil, but I feel obliged to underscore the following peculiarity: the noun is spelt practice, but the verb is practise, therefore the gerund is practising.
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Post by: Lodur on March 24, 2012, 17:00
Ellidi, thanks for correcting my American English. :) In British English it naturally should be "practising".

(Maybe, I need to change spell-check in my browser to English/United Kingdom... :))
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Post by: iopq on March 24, 2012, 18:56
Some teachers will have you believe that you must not end a sentence with a preposition. Too bad that's the only thing I like to end a sentence with!
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 19:08
Some teachers will have you believe that you must not end a sentence with a preposition. Too bad that's the only thing I like to end a sentence with!
That's really the thing I have no qualms about. :)
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Post by: Искандер on March 24, 2012, 19:13
I irrevocably like german, even scandinavian sounding this postpreposition takes after.
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Post by: arseniiv on March 25, 2012, 00:11
There is somewhere missing capitals. It has to be fixed, hasn’t it?
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Post by: Искандер on March 25, 2012, 00:45
There is somewhere missing capitals.
I supps there is no sense in the sentence. Capitals vanishes sometimes even when it's the only one capitals.
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Post by: Pedro on March 25, 2012, 19:44
HI!
Iskander, why were you speaking Spanish with me in this topic?
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Post by: Искандер on March 25, 2012, 19:46
HI!
Iskander, why were you speaking Spanish with me in this topic?
Coz de' LF!
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Post by: Pedro on March 25, 2012, 19:50
And... why are you speaking Spanish with me now? Please, speake English.
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Post by: Pedro on March 25, 2012, 19:56
 :-\
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Post by: Искандер on March 25, 2012, 20:00
And... why are you speaking Spanish with me now?
Wha'!? R U shure I was?

Please, speake English.
Pray be stoping breaking brain of mine.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: arseniiv on March 26, 2012, 00:29
To be meaningless, I am.
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Post by: Искандер on March 27, 2012, 18:11
Why, I'm asking you »WHY« there's no one completely adequate person to cosher with?
Except me of couse.
I'm so bored... I have nothing to do, nothing to hang on...
Arrrr! Bring me off sombody!
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Post by: Pedro on March 27, 2012, 18:26
Hi!
"Somebody", not "sombody".  ;)
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Post by: Искандер on March 27, 2012, 18:45
"Somebody", not "sombody".  ;)
Sombody :(
That's more appeal me.
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Post by: Alone Coder on March 27, 2012, 20:03
/[z] в английском - моя больная тема. Никак не могу запомнить, где что. Есть ли смысл их вообще различать?
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Post by: Искандер on March 27, 2012, 20:20
/[z] в английском - моя больная тема. Никак не могу запомнить, где что.
в словах с /s/ — /s/
в словах с /z/ — /z/
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Post by: iopq on March 28, 2012, 05:02
/[z] в английском - моя больная тема. Никак не могу запомнить, где что.
в словах с /s/ — /s/
в словах с /z/ — /z/
но иногда /s/ - [z]
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 09:45
но иногда /s/ - [z]
А иной раз и /ʑ/
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Post by: iopq on March 28, 2012, 15:21
но иногда /s/ - [z]
А иной раз и /ʑ/
это /sj/ и только в диалектах
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 15:30
Doesn't matter.
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Post by: iopq on March 28, 2012, 16:30
Doesn't matter.
so's your face
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 16:33
so's your face
Som unfamiliar phrase...
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Post by: iopq on March 28, 2012, 16:43
so's your face
Som unfamiliar phrase...
I'm teaching you how to speak like a child
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 17:05
I'm teaching you how to speak like a child
D'you think I need to?
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 17:21
What does the phrase "so's ur face" mean? It's strange to me.
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 17:39
Det's strange to me too, but Iopq logged off.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 17:44
 :)Da way ya "speak'' is funny. Like it.
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 17:50
:)Da way ya "speak'' is funny. Like it.
I'll do my best.
Quite honestly my exat speech isn't something good for english ears, bo I do my best.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 17:57
Frankly speakin I've neva spoken to an native speaker..My first langage I've learnt is German, so I practiced English with'em(Germans&Austrians) a little bit..Dat was long way back.
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 17:58
an native
Wha' fa'
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 17:59
My first langage I've learnt is German
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 18:01
Jag vill språka svensk :(
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 18:01
Oh, fock! I couldn't consentrate well..There was much noise around..so I just did wha I did  :)
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 18:02
so I just did wha I did
"I've done" I suppose :)
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 18:03
«Iʼve» This apostrophe is much more better.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 18:04
Do you know for certain, your last correction is right?
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 18:05
Actually the Perfect tense dies out in the Great Immigrants's Country...
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 18:08
Do you know for certain, your last correction is right?
Iʼve always thought that depends on nothing but context.
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 18:11
Actually the Perfect tense dies out in the Great Immigrants's Country...
But I understad the exact difference betåeen that having meaning now and that having no.

And I really donʼt care of them all.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 18:12
"Meine/Die erste Sprache, die ich gelernt habe, ist Deutsch". That's wha I meant. But it doesn't matter..
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 18:13
I cought then.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 18:16
You mean you got/understood it? That's fine.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 18:20
I dunno why but I'm stumblin all the way tonite. I mean using English on forums. Probably dat was a long day for me, da brain's fallin apart :).
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Post by: Ellidi on March 28, 2012, 18:24
I couldn't consentrate well..
concentrate, con- (cum) + centrum (centre).
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 18:25
You're right of course..I should've checked it by the German verb "konzentrieren",but I didn't.. :yes:
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 18:36
I dunno why but I'm stumblin all the way tonite. I mean using English on forums. Probably dat was a long day for me, da brain's fallin apart :).
Åhere are you?

should've
they say det have must be full.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 18:47
Now I'm home :) I've heard and seen this way of pronunciation and writing in several movies I watched with subtitles.. I should've..you must've etc..
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 18:56
Now I'm home :)
Wich time zone I wonder!
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 19:05
On my watch it's 23.05  :) Rather late..
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 19:57
On my watch it's 23.05  :) Rather late..
Itʼs 19-57 @ Bagdad.
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Post by: Hellerick on March 28, 2012, 19:59
On my watch it's 23.05
Beijing time is the best time  :UU:
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 20:01
Thatʼs time for afterparty! Yo-yo!
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 20:04
Oh, gosh..Wha brought U there? Are U on a mission? It's quite a distance! Baghdad? Really or have I missed the point?
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 20:06
Oh, gosh..Wha brought U there? On a mission? It's quite a distance!
hey hey!
Did you knoå? Moscow lives @ 4+ GMT Bagdad time zone.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 20:08
I've just been misled by @Bagdad  :D It cleared up by now.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 20:23
I think I gotta hit the sack..My time's up. You guys take over the night shift on the forum. Don't let its lights go down till the next shift of another time zone steps in. :) /kidding/
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 20:28
Donʼt understand whatʼs posted there over...
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 20:32
Could U point out the sentanse you can't understand?
I've just been misled by @Bagdad  :D It cleared up by now.

This?
I meant some kinda: The word Baghdad with the sign @ caused my misunderstanding, but now I know what U've meant.
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 20:39
Could U point out the sentanse
You guys take over the night shift on the forum. Don't let its lights go down till the next shift of another time zone steps in.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 28, 2012, 20:49

Could U point out the sentanse
It's OK with "point out"http://www.babylon.com/definition/point_out/English
http://ru.bab.la/словарь/английский-русский/point-out (http://ru.bab.la/%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C/%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9/point-out)
You guys take over the night shift on the forum. Don't let its lights go down till the next shift of another time zone steps in. :) /kidding/
Парни,принимайте ночную смену на форуме. Не давайте его огням погаснуть пока следущая смена другого часового пояса не заступит)) Короче,не спите..
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 20:59
Мне бы было более понятно слово turn or maybe tour... Теперь буду знать, что ещё shift называют
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Post by: Квас on March 28, 2012, 21:08
Jag vill språka svensk :(

Jag med.

«Iʼve» This apostrophe is much more better.

Det tror jag också. :yes: How do you produce it?

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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 21:11
How do you produce it?
I use qåerty layout by Ickander.
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Post by: Квас on March 28, 2012, 21:12
How do you produce it?
I use qåerty layout by Ickander.

I see. A nice apostrophe and an odd-looking w. :D
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on March 28, 2012, 21:17
London is the capital of Great Britain. Ey up govna gizza fag. Bloody bugger. 10 million Brits love fags.
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 21:18
I see. A nice apostrophe and an odd-looking w. :D
It was made for my conlang once. In new version Iʼve added new upper row: ʼ!()№%/&*[]-=
and some symbols on dead key: \ʼ¡«»\№\%\/\&\*{}\—.
W became such a lilla skönhet coz my conlang hasnʼt w but has å and other english letters.
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 21:21
London is the capital of Great Britain. Ey up govna gizza fag. Bloody bugger. 10 million Brits love fags.
Nga, youʼre adrunk again my sodden friend. Leave Greenʼs account and go to ainus!
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on March 28, 2012, 21:38
Nga, youʼre adrunk my sodden friend. Go to ainus!
London is the capital of Great Britain. I am not Ngati.
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 21:55
London is the capital of Great Britain. I am not Ngati.
Then, maybe Côtè?
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Post by: Искандер on March 28, 2012, 21:57
go to ainus!
Sounds good, by the way. Espec when slurring «i»
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Post by: iopq on March 29, 2012, 04:01
What does the phrase "so's ur face" mean? It's strange to me.
So's your face
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 08:24
So's your face
We donʼt know such an idiome.
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 08:59
Itʼs overcast today outside, and I consider it is rather better.
It all wallows in a shady light, all is rersting under cloudy shelter.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 09:59
So's your face
We donʼt know such an idiome.

Same here. But it seems like answering back if someone calls U names... :??? Did I hit the mark?
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 10:20
Donno. Iʼm going to read some Svenska.

BTW, what dʼyou think on my piece of poetry¿
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 12:50
This piece sounds fairly good to my ears, I'd say it just fits my mood today, although we've got some different weather over here  :)
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Post by: Borovik on March 29, 2012, 12:52
Maksim, what's the weather like in your realms?
Blizzard? Ice breaking? Snowdrops blooming?
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 13:03
Now it's +12 degrees in the shade :) the weather is everything but cold..it's very sunny in Abakan, a little bit windy.. And there's almost no snow left (only some rare small heaps under trees). No pools, all's melted and dried up 4-5 days ago))
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 13:04
Blizzard? Ice breaking? Snowdrops blooming?
Ponies, rainbow-pieces shitting...

"Realms" is real word.
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 13:04
And there's almost no snow left (only some rare small heaps under trees).
And we have alot of.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 13:07
And what town/city do you keep in?
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 13:10
And what town/city do you keep in?
ʻkeep inʼ isnʼt good word inspite Iʼm kept home deday.
I live in Noginsk.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 13:14
An American asked me in YouTube "where do you keep?" And when I asked'em what he meant he's just said: Where do you live?"... It's some informal way of speakin, I believe..
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 13:19
Я так понял, это типа нашего сленгового "где ты обретаешься?"(где ты живёшь?)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Borovik on March 29, 2012, 13:23
And what town/city do you keep in?
I keep  :) in Moscow, but my soul has stayed forever in my home place in the Urals
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 13:23
Я так понял, это типа нашего сленгового "где ты обретаешься?"(где ты живёшь?)
As for me, that is «where do they lock you in».

Cловарь вон тоже даёт: оставлять после уроков, оставлять больного на постельный режим, поддерживать огонь, сдерживать эмоции, so on so on...
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 13:25
I keep  :) in Moscow, but my soul has stayed forever in my home place in the Urals
Anyway souls tend to hover thereover we were young happy boysʼnʼgirls.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Borovik on March 29, 2012, 13:31
Well, there are different types of souls among those seconded to this planet
I've met some which sought to move to large cities albeit born into living beings in rural communities...
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 13:35
It's correct.. Earlier the verb "to keep" was transitive(to keep someone/something)..But now it can be both transitive and intransitive, but I think you perfectly know that, just some assotiations left..I got'em too..as if they keep smb. like a dog locked in  :)
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Post by: Borovik on March 29, 2012, 13:36
or a soul locked in a body  :(
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 13:39
If I got the point, U like big cities but U were born to a small town or a village.Am I right? Now U r being torn apart between'em..
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 13:40
Well, there are different types of souls among those seconded to this planet
I've met some which sought to move to large cities albeit born into living beings in rural communities...
My one likes to travel one place another, from some big city to some countryside.
There are places she returns time to time. And I suppose one place she shall leave for for forever when I shall be buried.


BTW, Itʼs snowing now at my place. LoL!
April comes!
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 13:43
At this very moment I'm beggin God to give my republic some more time of cold..Coz our summer is sometimes extremely hot.. 35degrees above null drive me nuts!! And I wanna enjoy the spring's weather and wear some spring's coats))) Otherwise I bought'em in vain... :)
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Post by: Borovik on March 29, 2012, 13:46
If I got the point, U like big cities but U were born to a small town or a village.Am I right? Now U r being torn apart between'em..
Quite the reverse.
I was born in a village in the mountains, and that's where my soul resides, and that's the place I hope I will snuff it.
It's my misfortune that I have to dwell in nasty stinky warren places like Moscow
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Post by: Borovik on March 29, 2012, 13:52
At this very moment I'm beggin God to give my republic some more time of cold..
God knows better what's good for your republic. better don't vex Him over small stuff...
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 13:55
It's my misfortune that I have to dwell in nasty stinky warren places like Moscow
You can live it with joice. It depends on your own attitude.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 13:59
Quite the reverse.
I was born in a village in the mountains, and that's where my soul resides, and that the place I hope I will snuff it.
It's my misfortune that I have to dwell in nasty stinky warren places like Moscow
Clear now.. I've neva been to big cities like Moscow but I'm not sorry bout the fact)) I'd like to go there to take a trip as a tourist, not to stay there as a resident or as a worker.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Borovik on March 29, 2012, 14:10
It's my misfortune that I have to dwell in nasty stinky warren places like Moscow
You can live it with joice. It depends on your own attitude.
Nah
it's a lower-level stuff
Another option is to arrange my life so I don't live here any longer
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Karakurt on March 29, 2012, 14:29
Who is on the duty today?
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 14:38
I'm off duty today..And very happy about the fact  :) And the article in the phrase "be on the duty" is not necessary, is it?  :???
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: autolyk on March 29, 2012, 14:38
Who is on the duty today?
Why do you use a definite article?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Borovik on March 29, 2012, 14:39
Normally you don't
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Post by: Karakurt on March 29, 2012, 14:50
Sorry, I haven't learnt English in school.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 14:53
It happens to everyone..We all learn it  ;)
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 14:57
Iʼm out of duty today yeah-yeah!
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 14:59
Congratulations! :UU: Join the club!
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Karakurt on March 29, 2012, 15:03
Articles and gender are evil, isn't it?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 15:04
Especially for us, turkic speaking men  :yes:
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Post by: Borovik on March 29, 2012, 15:06
Congratulations! :UU: Join the club!
What is this - the club of Turkic speakers writing in English?   8-)
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 15:08
Congratulations! :UU: Join the club!
That was said to the people being off duty.. :) And this:
Especially for us, turkic speaking men  :yes:
to the people having trouble with articles and gender..All's on hand)
Saying "turkic" I meant namely Turkic speakers and not Turkish speakers..but I believe you got the point.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 15:15
I have already joined.
But I donʼt have the toilet throne... thatʼs a disadvantage.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 15:19
I wouldn't refuse it too: (Google) toilet+throne (http://www.google.ru/imgres?imgurl=http://www.trendir.com/archives/Herbeau-toilet.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.trendir.com/archives/000033.html&h=418&w=350&sz=37&tbnid=AlT1hrhNZzwpoM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=75&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtoilet%2Bthrone%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=toilet+throne&docid=U026J7NbdOQv1M&sa=X&ei=u0R0T_yWAY3zsgbhq6HPDQ&ved=0CCoQ9QEwAQ&dur=2975)
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 15:22
I wouldn't refuse it too: (Google) toilet+throne
Oh, I didnʼt have in mind literally throne... I ment an ordinary bowl.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 15:26
 :E:
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Post by: Karakurt on March 29, 2012, 15:34
I didn't get it (
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 29, 2012, 15:37
What exactly?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Karakurt on March 29, 2012, 15:39
About the throne.
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 15:41
Whatʼs so funny!
Try it yourself to withstand for 12 hours without any sanitary things...
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Borovik on March 29, 2012, 16:25
Искандер, you're having trouble since you need to use the toilet but it's not available in the place you are now. Is that what you are trying to say?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 16:34
you're having trouble since you need to use the toilet but it's not available in the place you are now. Is that what you are trying to say?
Yep. The situation is Iʼm @ home.

But all comes better. Theyʼve finished installation of a new throne.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Karakurt on March 29, 2012, 16:40
Your home doesn't have a toilet?
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 16:42
Your home doesn't have a toilet?
My home has a reconstruction.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Karakurt on March 29, 2012, 16:45
Cool. Is it costly?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Borovik on March 29, 2012, 16:47
Theyʼve finished installation of a new throne.
Wow!
Happy new throne! Many happy returns!   ;D
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Post by: Искандер on March 29, 2012, 16:48
Is it costly?
We havenʼt anything to eat.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: iopq on March 29, 2012, 16:54
So's your face
We donʼt know such an idiome.

Same here. But it seems like answering back if someone calls U names... :??? Did I hit the mark?
пин пон!
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Karakurt on March 29, 2012, 21:26
I demand the continuation of the banquet!
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: autolyk on March 29, 2012, 21:36
You’re absolutely right, the show must go on.
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Post by: arseniiv on March 30, 2012, 22:53
Must dust cast a vast?
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Post by: Искандер on March 30, 2012, 22:57
Must dust cast a vast?
Должна ли пыль швырять тяжести?
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Post by: iopq on March 31, 2012, 00:26
Какие тяжести?
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Post by: Искандер on March 31, 2012, 00:47
Какие тяжести?
vast ~ много широко тяжело пространно многочисленно.
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Post by: iopq on March 31, 2012, 12:04
Какие тяжести?
vast ~ много широко тяжело пространно многочисленно.
не тяжести а пространства
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Искандер on March 31, 2012, 12:06
To hurl spaces? That's much more meaningfull everyway.
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Post by: Pedro on March 31, 2012, 17:19
Hi!
Quote
... Un poco oftopo...
Искандер,
I think , that you like making offtops, but I don't.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Искандер on March 31, 2012, 17:21
I think , that you like to make offtops, but I don't.
And what?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Pedro on March 31, 2012, 17:22
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
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Post by: Искандер on March 31, 2012, 17:49
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
Youʼve done oʼtop here rather then I.
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Post by: iopq on March 31, 2012, 18:51
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
rubbish is not a countable object
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 31, 2012, 18:55
How come U say Искандер likes to make offtops, seňor Pedro? :) El "topico" se llama "Let's speak English!",verdad?..If someone express himself using English it's hardly possible to say he makes any offtops here, I think  ;)
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Post by: iopq on March 31, 2012, 18:58
I don't think I've seen Iskander speak English yet
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 31, 2012, 19:04
I think U perfectly know what the word "speak" can mean on forums..
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Post by: Искандер on March 31, 2012, 19:05
I don't think I've seen Iskander speak English yet
May I hit you?
Also that would be more british to  use gerund  «speaking» there. So youʼre not good too.
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Post by: iopq on March 31, 2012, 19:14
I don't think I've seen Iskander speak English yet
May I hit you?
Also that would be more british to  use gerund  «speaking» there. So youʼre not good too.
See? I have no idea what the fuck he just said

How the fuck am I supposed to use "speaking" here?
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 31, 2012, 19:22
I suppose he meant that you can't "see" him, nor can he "hit'' you, as this is virtual communication.. :) And frankly speaking I believe it's about time to cool down for both of you ;)
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Post by: iopq on March 31, 2012, 19:24
I suppose he meant that you can't "see" him, nor can he "hit'' you, as this is virtual communication.. :) And frankly speaking I believe it's about time to cool down for you both  ;)
он мне сказал что я не благо

I've long given up on him
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 31, 2012, 19:29
Может быть, но мне видится,что он скорее имел в виду "таким образом, ты тоже не так уж хорош (в английском)"-"so you're not good (at English) too"...
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 31, 2012, 19:31
Кидайте мне деньги через webmoney за интерпритаторскую деятельность)))) /just kidding/
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Post by: iopq on March 31, 2012, 19:34
Во-первых, если он это имел в виду, тогда он должен сказать "You're not that good either"
Во-вторых, откуда он знает что правильно? Сначало надо самому одно грамотное предложение написать.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 31, 2012, 19:42
Во-первых, если он это имел в виду, тогда он должен сказать "You're not that good either"
Это ещё надо посмотреть... Разговорный стиль допускает подобные отклонения (бывают и пострашнее made by the Natives). Но формально, Вы правы..
Во-вторых, откуда он знает что правильно? Сначало надо самому одно грамотное предложение написать.
Ему и не надо знать, коль скоро Вы оба перешли на личности и отбросили в сторону конструктивное аргументирование..
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 31, 2012, 19:46
Да,если честно, зачем так всем накаляться..Мы ж тут все практикуемся, в какой-то мере учимся..It would be far better just to drop it and discuss something more interesting..
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Post by: iopq on March 31, 2012, 19:49
Проблема в том что слово "too" означает membership of the same group
For the absence of membership in the same group of being good it doesn't fit

If he had said "You're pretty bad too" I would accept that, although "You're pretty bad yourself" sounds better
Second, the absense of any qualifier before "good" is very telling
It is not colloquial style at all, because usually it is inserted in speech

Even in Russian I would say "Сам ты не так уж и хорош" and saying "Сам не хорош тоже" seems gross
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 31, 2012, 19:53
Ну да.. "you're not so good"/"you're not that good" для уха звучит привычней..
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Post by: Pedro on March 31, 2012, 20:02
Quote
...seňor Pedro...
Pedro Enrique García (my real name)

Quote
El "topico" se llama "Let's speak English!",verdad?..
Quote


I prefer speaking English, not Spanish in this forum. Please, speak English with me ,too.
Be aware of this.
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Post by: autolyk on March 31, 2012, 20:09
Pedro Enrique García (my real name)
There are lots of Pedroes in Brazil. :)
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Post by: Pedro on March 31, 2012, 20:11
But I'm not from Brazil. I'm Spanish. I'm from Sevilla.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on March 31, 2012, 20:18
Really? I would never guess there's a real Spaniard "hidden" behind this nickname .. :) No problem, we mostly do use English here..Besides I'm a poor hand at Spanish))
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Post by: autolyk on March 31, 2012, 20:20
But I'm not from Brazil. I'm Spanish. I'm from Sevilla.
It was a greeting to Feruza)
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Post by: Pedro on March 31, 2012, 20:24
But I'm not from Brazil. I'm Spanish. I'm from Sevilla.
It was a greeting to Feruza)
I didn't understand...
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Post by: Искандер on March 31, 2012, 20:59
Even in Russian I would say "Сам ты не так уж и хорош" and saying "Сам не хорош тоже" seems gross
And I also can say «сам туда же» and so on.
Anyway, youʼre welcom when criticize me constructively, but not when you inject that «Heʼs ololo Iʼm trololo».
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Post by: Искандер on March 31, 2012, 21:03
I've long given up on him
Вот кстати ни один фразеологический словарь не помог распарсить.
Что-то типа «Мне глубоко забить на него» — ?
Не надо на меня забивать, я на самом деле хороший.
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Post by: Sudarshana on March 31, 2012, 21:43
Iskander, if you listened to more Gaga's songs this phrasal verb would be familiar to you: "i'm gonna marry the night. i won't give up on my life"
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Post by: Искандер on March 31, 2012, 21:50
And åhere can I see the meaning?
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Post by: Sudarshana on March 31, 2012, 21:59
my abby lingvo cites two examples: one is translated with "махнуть рукой" and the other - with "отчаяться"
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Post by: Квас on March 31, 2012, 22:34
BTW, Искандер, why do you use U+02BC ‘modifier letter apostrophe’ rather than U+2019 ‘right single quotation mark’, the latter being the Unicode standard apostrophe?
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Post by: Искандер on March 31, 2012, 22:43
BTW, Искандер, why do you use U+02BC ‘modifier letter apostrophe’ rather than U+2019 ‘right single quotation mark’, the latter being the Unicode standard apostrophe?

 U+2019 åas too far in the table. Also, U+02BC is a letter, and U+2019 is a punctuation mark, so the first will not break the word when in the middle while the second will.
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Post by: Квас on March 31, 2012, 22:51
Sometimes I wonder if I really should use all these non-ASCII symbols. :-\ Perhaps there may be other points of view. For example, like in TeX: one conventionally puts ' as the apostrophe and gets a perfect apostrophe in the output.

Do you think it’s very important to use ‘right symbols’ in plain text?
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Post by: Искандер on March 31, 2012, 22:57
Do you think it’s very important to use ‘right symbols’ in plain text?
I think itʼs good when it looks like it have to look. When we take a book, some well-published book, we see «ʼ», not «'», when apostrophe and «'» when feet.
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Post by: iopq on March 31, 2012, 23:36
I've long given up on him
Вот кстати ни один фразеологический словарь не помог распарсить.
Что-то типа «Мне глубоко забить на него» — ?
Не надо на меня забивать, я на самом деле хороший.
give up - сдаваться

типа я уже сдаюсь, he is a lost cause
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Post by: Искандер on March 31, 2012, 23:43
типа я уже сдаюсь, he is a lost cause
Certainly I should hit you... Iʼm aggrieved.
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Post by: Квас on March 31, 2012, 23:53
Do you think it’s very important to use ‘right symbols’ in plain text?
I think itʼs good when it looks like it have to look. When we take a book, some well-published book, we see «ʼ», not «'», when apostrophe and «'» when feet.

On one hand, you seem to be right. On the other hand, the outlook of a text is the question of typesetting and not of encoding. It just occurred to me that in certain situations a conventional use of symbols might be more convenient.

I don’t know quite well what I want to say.
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Post by: Karakurt on April 1, 2012, 00:09
What odd language is it, that people started to use on this forum recently, and that mocks English?
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Post by: Квас on April 1, 2012, 00:18
Never mind. It’s a local variety of English. Would you like to write a descriptive grammar?
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Post by: autolyk on April 1, 2012, 00:28
It’s a local variety of English.
Meseems it’s an individual variety of English. :)
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Post by: Karakurt on April 1, 2012, 00:32
Have you noticed that they change the English adjectives on -ive into -if? My eyes!
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Post by: Искандер on April 1, 2012, 00:41
Have you noticed that they change the English adjectives on -ive into -if? My eyes!
Who do that?
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Post by: Karakurt on April 1, 2012, 00:43
Those who write Bien sur instead of Well sure! :)
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Post by: Sudarshana on April 1, 2012, 00:46
Who do that?
Those who love conjugation.
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Post by: Karakurt on April 1, 2012, 00:52
Let's say to them: "Let's speak English!" ;D
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Post by: autolyk on April 1, 2012, 00:53
Who do that?
Froggies do.
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Post by: Sudarshana on April 1, 2012, 00:53
Let's say to them: "Let's speak English!" ;D
We do. When we're too lazy to think :)
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Post by: iopq on April 1, 2012, 04:02
типа я уже сдаюсь, he is a lost cause
Certainly I should hit you... Iʼm aggrieved.
You mad?
Come at me, bro
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Post by: Искандер on April 1, 2012, 10:43
You mad?
Come at me, bro
Actually Iʼm really alittle mad.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on April 1, 2012, 11:02
Guys, what do you think about unusual usage of the Present Continious? As we all know there are three main and simple ways to let someone know that an event or action takes place in the future:
1) using the Future Simple: he will work
2) using the structure "is/are going to +verb": he's going to take you home
3) using the Present Simple: he comes tomorrow noon
But how about cases like this?  "I'm not moving from here until I'm satisfied the hunt for me is over" или "he's coming here tomorrow night to talk to you"
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Post by: Искандер on April 1, 2012, 11:05
It will be quite normal in Swedish. But I canʼt say anything about English.
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Post by: Квас on April 1, 2012, 11:11
Future meaning of present tenses is not uncommon in the Germanic languages. The Present Continuous indicates that there is a plan. If I’m not mistaken, the Present Simple is not so widespread.
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Post by: Borovik on April 1, 2012, 12:00
But how about cases like this?  "I'm not moving from here until I'm satisfied the hunt for me is over" или "he's coming here tomorrow night to talk to you"
check your grammar book. This use of pr cont is explicitly described
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Post by: autolyk on April 1, 2012, 12:04
But how about cases like this?  "I'm not moving from here until I'm satisfied the hunt for me is over" или "he's coming here tomorrow night to talk to you"
Quote from: A Communicative Grammar
The present progressive is used for future events resulting from a present plan, pogramme, or arrangement:
We’re inviting several people to a party.
Next they’re playing a piece by Schubert.
We’re having fish for dinner

Like be going to, this construction (especially when there is no time adverbial) often suggests the near future.
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Post by: Pedro on April 5, 2012, 20:38
Hi, amigos! (offtoping-rubbishing) :)
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
rubbish is not a countable object
Thanks. And... is the word "police" a countable object?
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Post by: iopq on April 5, 2012, 22:44
Hi, amigos! (offtoping-rubbishing) :)
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
rubbish is not a countable object
Thanks. And... is the word "police" a countable object?
no
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Post by: Pedro on April 6, 2012, 09:04
Hello!
Hi, amigos! (offtoping-rubbishing) :)
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
rubbish is not a countable object
Thanks. And... is the word "police" a countable object?
no
Thank you
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Post by: iopq on April 6, 2012, 11:49
Hello!
Hi, amigos! (offtoping-rubbishing) :)
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
rubbish is not a countable object
Thanks. And... is the word "police" a countable object?
no
Thank you
There's no for what  ;D
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Post by: Pedro on April 6, 2012, 12:29
Quote
Ukrailish
I didn't understand...
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Post by: Квас on April 6, 2012, 17:08
Ucrainian + English
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Post by: Pedro on April 6, 2012, 17:39
 :???
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Post by: Квас on April 6, 2012, 21:18
What’s wrong?
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Post by: Pedro on April 7, 2012, 10:33
Hi!
Nothing wrong. But... I didn't understand, what does it mean Ukrainian+English? This language exists?

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Post by: Квас on April 7, 2012, 11:48
Try to substitute Spanish words for English ones in your speach, and you’ll get Spanglish. Essentially it’s the same phenomenon.
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Post by: iopq on April 7, 2012, 12:07
Hi!
Nothing wrong. But... I didn't understand, what does it mean Ukrainian+English? This language exists?
it's called code-switching

when you speak several languages you can switch between them in conversation, even in the same предложении
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Post by: Pedro on April 7, 2012, 12:56
even in the same предложении
Is it Ukrailish?
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Post by: Pedro on April 7, 2012, 13:33
And now, Goodbye! :)
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Post by: iopq on April 7, 2012, 23:34
even in the same предложении
Is it Ukrailish?
that was Russlish
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Post by: Искандер on April 7, 2012, 23:35
that was Russlish
Or runglish?
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Post by: Pedro on April 8, 2012, 09:23
Hi, amigos!
Let's speak about Spainglish, Russlish, Ukrailish etc.  Tell me please, can the first sentence (I mean, in this message) be in Spainglish?
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Post by: iopq on April 8, 2012, 10:03
Claro que yes
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Post by: Pedro on April 8, 2012, 12:18
Claro que yes
It's también (also) Spainglish.
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Ukrailish
¿Por qué not Ukrainglish?
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Post by: Квас on April 8, 2012, 12:21
Business not it that to mix words from two languages, but sooner in that to take from one vocabulary, from the other syntax.
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Post by: Hellerick on April 8, 2012, 12:24
Claro que yes

In Spanglish it's "Clear that yes".
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Post by: Квас on April 8, 2012, 12:29
Good when two quite different English words are translated in mother tongue with one and the same word. Then one can do lexical errors mixing these words. Other lexical errors also can be.
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Post by: Ellidi on April 8, 2012, 12:35
Good when [...] Other lexical errors also can be.
Runglish displeases me strongly. As do Denglish and Franglais.
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Post by: Искандер on April 8, 2012, 12:37
Oh det är so mindbending syntax, Quaso...
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Post by: Искандер on April 8, 2012, 12:39
Runglish displeases me strongly. As do Denglish and Franglais.
Quasus posted that just with tongue in cheek.
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Post by: Pedro on April 8, 2012, 13:40
Goodbye forever!
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Post by: Квас on April 8, 2012, 14:21
Fare thee well, and if for ever, still for ever fare thee well.
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Post by: iopq on April 8, 2012, 14:39
Good when [...] Other lexical errors also can be.
Runglish displeases me strongly
Your terse style is grating; moreso than any Runglish.

I can't really say much more; grammatically your sentence was correct - although you decided to put a period in the middle instead of a semicolon - but I didn't like it stylistically.
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Post by: Passer-by on April 8, 2012, 21:18
I felt like posting some stuff here to practise my poor English a bit.

Today I finally made up my mind to buy two books I'd been dreaming about for a long time.
They're 'Advanced Grammar in Use' and 'English Vocabulary in Use: Advanced'. The latter is a real mindf*ck. I bleeding don't know these lousy words (such as 'be adjacent to'/'adjoin', 'abdicate', 'abscond', etc.) :(
What is more, I'm taking part in a Whole Russian Olympiad in English next week, so I've got to have really broad knowledge. :( I don't though...
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Post by: Karakurt on April 8, 2012, 21:27
Whole Russian?
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Post by: Passer-by on April 8, 2012, 21:57
Aforesaid Runglish manifested itself. :(
All-Russian?? (всероссийская)
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Post by: Квас on April 8, 2012, 21:59
'English Vocabulary in Use: Advanced'.

What is this? A guide to elaborate writing/eloquent speaking?
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Post by: Ellidi on April 8, 2012, 22:13
'be adjacent to'/'adjoin', 'abdicate', 'abscond'
Nice words. :) There are many more of them, such as propensity, obsequious, exonerate, præponderate, pusillanimous and so on. I adore them. They are of Latin origin, therefore knowing Latin facilitates their compræhension.
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Post by: Karakurt on April 8, 2012, 22:14
English must be cleared from many Latin words!
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Post by: Oleg Grom on April 8, 2012, 22:15
English must be cleared from many Latin words!
First of all from French words.
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Post by: Искандер on April 8, 2012, 22:15
Nice words. :) There are many more of them, such as propensity, obsequious, exonerate, preponderate, pusillanimous and so on. I adore them.
I totally canʼt understand them...
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Post by: Ellidi on April 8, 2012, 22:24
English must be cleared from many Latin words!
—1 Au contraire, English must be imbued with an abundance of more Latin words. :)
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Post by: Passer-by on April 8, 2012, 22:25
'English Vocabulary in Use: Advanced'.

What is this? A guide to elaborate writing/eloquent speaking?
http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/3950694/

From 'To the student' section
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Why was this book written?
Itw as written to help you to improve your English vocabulary and to take you to an advanced level of knowledge of English words and phrases. It will help you to learn not only the meanings of words but also how they are used, how the y combine with one another (collocate), and how they form longer expressions. It will help you to distinguish better among the large number of words you already know and the new ones we introduce you to.
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Post by: Квас on April 8, 2012, 22:46
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Why was this book written?
Itw as written to help you to improve your English vocabulary and to take you to an advanced level of knowledge of English words and phrases. It will help you to learn not only the meanings of words but also how they are used, how the y combine with one another (collocate), and how they form longer expressions. It will help you to distinguish better among the large number of words you already know and the new ones we introduce you to.

I think now I understand. Of course, it would be natural to acquire the vocabulary just using the language (first of all, through reading and through active use). On the other hand, I confess I’m prone myself to scholastic studies of this kind, when words are considered as the end in themselves.
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Post by: Passer-by on April 8, 2012, 23:28
I see but now I've got to cram for this competition.
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Post by: Квас on April 8, 2012, 23:50
Good luck!
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Post by: arseniiv on April 9, 2012, 00:20
Good night!
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Post by: Искандер on April 9, 2012, 15:54
Good afternoon! my dear friends. Does anybody here?
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Post by: iopq on April 9, 2012, 16:03
Good afternoon! my dear friends. Does anybody here?
I assume you meant to ask if anyone hears.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on April 9, 2012, 16:10
Good afternoon! my dear friends. Does anybody here?
I assume you meant to ask if anyone hears.
iorq, what you've just done is usually called "you are busting his balls''(informal). But in Russian quite harmless "подшутил/подколол/подъ..пал".. :)
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Post by: iopq on April 9, 2012, 16:12
Good afternoon! my dear friends. Does anybody here?
I assume you meant to ask if anyone hears.
iorq, what you've just done is usually called "you are busting his balls''(informal)
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on April 9, 2012, 16:15
I didn't mean any offence.. :) Just called things what they are.. :tss:
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Post by: Искандер on April 9, 2012, 16:36
I assume you meant to ask if anyone hears.
Just to say, I wrote first «heare», but changed then
Was I wrong?
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on April 9, 2012, 16:40
All's cleared up finally..  "Is anybody here?"/"Does anybody hear?" /iorq,sorry for being tough/
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Post by: iopq on April 10, 2012, 02:11
I assume you meant to ask if anyone hears.
Just to say, I wrote first «heare»
and wtf is that
is that pseudo-Ald-Anglisc like "Olde Englishe"?
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Post by: Искандер on April 10, 2012, 10:26
What can I say... that's my knoledge of spelling. May be It isn't so good but it's the only I have.
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Post by: Sudarshana on April 10, 2012, 13:37
the only I have
the only one I have
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on April 10, 2012, 14:04
the only I have
the only one I have
Тафтологично, но афсолютно берно с точки зрения нормы англ.яза.."единственное одно, что я имею". В этом и состоит минус пиджинов..Эдакая никому не сдавшаяся логическая завершённость всякой фразы..Но мы должны это "схавать"..
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Post by: Квас on April 10, 2012, 15:06
English is not a pidgin. 8-)
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on April 10, 2012, 15:48
..."-a man said.
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Post by: arseniiv on April 10, 2012, 20:26
English is not a pidgin but a creol.

Maksim, does your messages’ interlacing mean a special offer?
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Post by: autolyk on April 10, 2012, 20:32
English is not a creole too.
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Post by: Искандер on April 10, 2012, 20:47
English is not a creole too.
as well

am I right?
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Post by: autolyk on April 10, 2012, 20:54
am I right?
No, you’re not. One may say «too» in the end of a sentence. 
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Post by: Karakurt on April 10, 2012, 21:04
What about neither/either?
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Post by: autolyk on April 10, 2012, 21:11
Why not? English is not a creole either.
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Post by: Sudarshana on April 10, 2012, 21:11
English is not a creole too.
I would say "either"
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Post by: Марбол on April 10, 2012, 21:45
Good afternoon!

Today I met two Holland girls in metro on my way home, they tried to get Sennaya station. While guiding them on the right way, we were talking about the city, and what did they come to St-Petersburg for, and what do they do in Holland. One of them 'studies literature', she said. I asked, if it was philology, by she answered, 'this is a language, we don't study any language at all'. I asked, if they study authors, heroys, texts? And the girl replied, yes: they read and analyse literatures of different countries.
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Post by: autolyk on April 10, 2012, 22:19
One of them 'studies literature', she said. I asked, if it was philology, by she answered, 'this is a language, we don't study any language at all'.
Wow, I. G. was right in the definition argument.
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Post by: Марбол on April 10, 2012, 23:23
One of them 'studies literature', she said. I asked, if it was philology, by she answered, 'this is a language, we don't study any language at all'.
I am Sorry, it shall be replaced with 'but', 'but she answered' & so on.
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Post by: iopq on April 10, 2012, 23:24
am I right?
No, you’re not. One may say «too» in the end of a sentence.
"either" is more correct
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Post by: iopq on April 10, 2012, 23:25
Good afternoon!

Today I met two Holland girls in metro on my way home, they tried to get Sennaya station. While guiding them on the right way, we were talking about the city, and what did they come to St-Petersburg for, and what do they do in Holland. One of them 'studies literature', she said. I asked, if it was philology, by she answered, 'this is a language, we don't study any language at all'. I asked, if they study authors, heroys, texts? And the girl replied, yes: they read and analyse literatures of different countries.
nobody has the same definition of philology as the Russian universities do

in fact we don't have any "philology" in the States at all, I have not heard this word used ever
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on April 11, 2012, 18:23
English is not a pidgin but a creol.

Maksim, does your messages’ interlacing mean a special offer?
Take it as a joke ;) In fact I do understand that English is a very simplified language..and it would be stupid to expect that there would be further facilitating moments like unfull constractions. In case there would I'd call such a language just primitive.
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Post by: Искандер on April 11, 2012, 18:28
Oh you are soooo wrong. English isnʼt primitive at all, our knoledges of English are primitive.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on April 11, 2012, 18:39
I said: "In case there would I'd call such a language just primitive"..I didn't call it primitive yet.
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Post by: Искандер on April 11, 2012, 19:00
I said: "In case there would I'd call such a language just primitive"..I didn't call it primitive yet.
Oh well.
Moreover Iʼve said I have to say thatʼs totally elefant-breeding to use the collocation «primitive language».
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Post by: arseniiv on April 11, 2012, 19:29
Offtop
Iskander, you’ve misspelled word knowledge  two times in total.
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Post by: Ellidi on April 11, 2012, 20:45
I asked, if it was philology, by she answered, 'this is a language, we don't study any language at all'.
Ah wellaway (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wellaway#Interjection)...
I asked, if they study authors, heroys, texts? And the girl replied, yes: they read and analyse literatures of different countries.
All translated into Dutch (or English)?  :o This cannot be true! There is a plethora of illustrious, unsurpassable authors whose works were never translated into English (let alone into Dutch): Slovene and Croatian modernism, major Serbian and Bulgarian authors, from the Russian authors Leonid Andreyev (Russian expressionism), Fyodor Sologub, Vasili Rozanov, Danish symbolism... The profound and thorough study of Europæan literature will be præcluded, unless one learns at least one Romance, one Slavic (the biggest, Russian) and one North Germanic language. This knowledge is indispensable, lest one remain at loss with regard to multifarious invaluable masterpieces of Europæan literature (of the Romance, North Germanic and Slavic peoples + German literature).
nobody has the same definition of philology as the Russian universities do

in fact we don't have any "philology" in the States at all, I have not heard this word used ever
The lasses in quæstion were Dutch. Holland is somewhere between the USA and Russia, so applying US criterion to them is nowhere near justified.
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 11, 2012, 22:29
Iskander, you’ve misspelled word knowledge  two
times in total
Offtop
And in addition, this noun is uncountable and not used in plural.
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Post by: Квас on April 11, 2012, 22:43
RockyRaccoon, what a wonderful nick! :) Even now I hear the Beatles in my head when I read your messages.
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 11, 2012, 22:54

RockyRaccoon, what a wonderful nick!  Even
now I hear the Beatles in my head when I read your messages.
Thanks a lot! At last there’s a man who knows and understands... Unfortunately, some forum members think that this is an Amerindian name that I assumed.
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Post by: Квас on April 11, 2012, 23:01
Wow, Amerindian. :green:
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Post by: Марбол on April 11, 2012, 23:03
Thanks a lot! At last there’s a man who knows and understands... Unfortunately, some forum members think that this is an Amerindian name that I assumed.
There is me who also knows.
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 11, 2012, 23:07
There is me who also knows.
I’m happy.  ;up:
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Post by: Марбол on April 12, 2012, 08:06
Did you ever read the only Russian Beatles fanzine 'From me to you'?
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Post by: autolyk on April 12, 2012, 08:37
Did you ever read the only Russian Beatles fanzine 'From me to you'?
It’s correct to say: Have you ever read...
Upon the subject: Yes I have. :)
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Post by: Lodur on April 12, 2012, 08:41
if they study authors, heroys, texts?
Studying heroes is really much more useful than studying heroin. :) God save the Queen! Halleluiah! :)

By the way, a spellchecker in Internet-browser can help you to avoid misprints. Or may be it was an example of using Runglish? :)
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 12, 2012, 10:46

Did you ever read the only Russian Beatles fanzine 'From me to
you'?
Yes, I did have. I always buy it when I come across it.
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Post by: Искандер on April 12, 2012, 12:53
What that "to come across" means I wonder...
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Post by: Квас on April 12, 2012, 12:55
to encounter, find by chance
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Post by: iopq on April 12, 2012, 14:09
What that "to come across" means I wonder...
to come upon
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 12, 2012, 15:21


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What that "to come across" means I
wonder...
to come upon
Why doesn’t "come across" suit you? Please lay claims to dictionaries or rather to English-speaking people...  :smoke:
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Post by: iopq on April 12, 2012, 15:28


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What that "to come across" means I
wonder...
to come upon
Why doesn’t "come across" suit you? Please lay claims to dictionaries or rather to English-speaking people...  :smoke:
he asked what it meant, and I said it meant pretty much the same as "come upon"
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 12, 2012, 15:40
he asked what it meant, and I said it meant pretty much the same as "come upon"
Искандер’s three dots look rather suspicious and somewhat sarcastic... :donno:
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Post by: Марбол on April 12, 2012, 21:26
By the way, a spellchecker in Internet-browser can help you to avoid misprints.
Or may be it was an example of using Runglish?
No-no, it was a kind of misprint.
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Post by: Марбол on April 12, 2012, 21:29
And I gave up buing this journal, since I don't enjoy the Beatles as I did some time ago...
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Post by: autolyk on April 12, 2012, 22:01
Don’t you like the Beatles? Why have you asked about the magazin "From Me to You" then? The logic textbook is lost.
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Post by: Марбол on April 12, 2012, 22:55
I was meaning that I like the Beatles but they don't make me feel happy already.
I had been listening only the Beates for 7 yers until I met my girlfriend. And I love her.
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Post by: autolyk on April 12, 2012, 23:05
I see. It’s all girls’ fault. :)
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 12, 2012, 23:19
And I
love her.
"I know this love of mine
Will never die,
And I love her..."
None of the girls I had ever met managed to influence my Beatles-mania...  :stop:
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Post by: Karakurt on April 13, 2012, 18:53
already
anymore?
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Post by: Квас on April 13, 2012, 22:05
Nevermore!
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on April 14, 2012, 05:27
already
anymore?
Siz haqli emassiz, ehtimol :)"already"-"уже","anymore"-"больше (не)"..
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Post by: iopq on April 14, 2012, 15:47
already
anymore?
Siz haqli emassiz, ehtimol
何じゃこりゃ
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Post by: Квас on April 14, 2012, 15:49
I like the translate button more and more. ;D
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Post by: autolyk on April 14, 2012, 16:00
Yes, it’s a great invention, thanks to RawonaM!
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Post by: iopq on April 14, 2012, 16:00
I like the translate button more and more. ;D
pero no funciona en ese caso
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Post by: iopq on April 14, 2012, 16:02
Yes, it’s a great invention, thanks to RawonaM!
He invented google translate?  :o
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Post by: Квас on April 14, 2012, 16:03
pero no funciona en ese caso

That may be ‘an untranslatable play of words involving local dialects’. ;D
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Post by: Nevik Xukxo on April 14, 2012, 16:04
The translator is a debil, me thinks.
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Post by: iopq on April 14, 2012, 16:05
The translator is a debil, me thinks.
he's weak? I thought robots were supposed to be strong
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Post by: autolyk on April 14, 2012, 16:06
He invented google translate?
An adoption sometimes is more significant.
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Post by: Nevik Xukxo on April 14, 2012, 16:10
I thought robots were supposed to be strong

All robots are debils. Maybe in the future they'll be genies...
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Post by: iopq on April 14, 2012, 17:06
I thought robots were supposed to be strong

All robots are debils. Maybe in the future they'll be genies...
Will they appear out of oil lamps? Or just plain bottles?
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Post by: Karakurt on April 14, 2012, 17:56
already
anymore?
Siz haqli emassiz, ehtimol :)"already"-"уже","anymore"-"больше (не)"..
It seemed to me like a calque.
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Post by: DarkEuge on April 14, 2012, 23:03
I'm afraid there are too many people speaking English today: their understanding of what is a "correct English" differs from place to place. Finally, our civilization will have a list of "English languages" which will have nothing to do with one another. And we'll have to look for the other international language... :(
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Post by: Квас on April 14, 2012, 23:36
We just need more grammarnazis.
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Post by: Искандер on April 14, 2012, 23:46
We just need more grammarnazis.
Hereʼs tropf enough ov grammarnazi ere this! Stop getting more!
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Post by: Квас on April 14, 2012, 23:46
When grammarnazis constantly reproach natives for ‘wrong’ English, the language will become truely neutral. Perhaps natives will have certain advantages in learning English since it will resemble their vernaculars, but they will be hindered by false friends. Latin is a good example. It continued to be international for more then a millenium after the ‘learned language’ had become considerably different from popular dialects, and for centuries after its relics definitively dissolved into the Romance languages.
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Post by: Pedro on April 15, 2012, 08:55
Hi!
Good when two quite different English words are translated in mother tongue with one and the same word. Then one can do lexical errors mixing these words. Other lexical errors also can be.
Aaa...
"The room neither big neither small."
"She very much like listen music."
"I playing."
"Have you already ate cake?"

Good? :)
(It's Russenglish)
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Post by: Квас on April 15, 2012, 09:59
Good? :)
(It's Russenglish)

I’d say that’s absolutely perfect. :) I’m glad you’re back.
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Post by: Pedro on April 15, 2012, 10:11
I'm glad to see this forum and its users too. :)
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Post by: Искандер on April 15, 2012, 10:45
There's a strange exhilaration
In such total detestation
It's so pure and strong!
Though I do admit it came on fast
Still I do believe that it can last
And I will be...
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Post by: Pedro on April 15, 2012, 18:01
Hi!
Good when two quite different English words are translated in mother tongue with one and the same word. Then one can do lexical errors mixing these words. Other lexical errors also can be.
Aaa...
"The room neither big neither small."
"She very much like listen music."
"I playing."
"Have you already ate cake?"
"If it will rain, I'l stay in home."
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Post by: Ellidi on April 15, 2012, 18:28
I was meaning that I like the Beatles but they don't make me feel happy already.
I had been listening only the Beates for 7 yers until I met my girlfriend. And I love her.
And what ramifications has your acquaintance had on your musical præferences? She has obviously estranged you from the Beatles, but has she initiated you into the works of her favourite musicians?
Hereʼs tropf enough ov grammarnazi ere this! Stop getting more!
tropf?  :??? From German Tropfen - a drop? Even a drop of grammarnazis provides for their intolerability?
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Post by: Искандер on April 15, 2012, 18:40
tropf?  :??? From German Tropfen - a drop?
nope I donno whaʼʼs det, but some like ʻindeed, fullʼ
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on April 16, 2012, 08:18
Where  can I encontrar some videos dedicated a americanized hispanic gente hablando Spanglish?..Could any one aconsejar algo?
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Post by: iopq on April 16, 2012, 17:27
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z13CVD0idrM" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z13CVD0idrM</a>
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Post by: Pedro on April 17, 2012, 17:53
Hi!
tropf?  :??? From German Tropfen - a drop?
nope I donno whaʼʼs det, but some like ʻindeed, fullʼ
I'm glad to see you, Искандер. And... ¿Cuál es el nombre de este "dialecto" del Inglés?
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Post by: Искандер on April 17, 2012, 20:04
And... ¿Cuál es el nombre de este "dialecto" del Inglés?
Thatʼs just Içkanderglish.
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 17, 2012, 20:37
Thatʼs just Içkanderglish.
You really run the risk of getting used to it more than to "normal" English and even forgetting the latter...
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Post by: Искандер on April 17, 2012, 20:45
used to it more than to "normal" English and even forgetting the latter...
What can I do with thaʼ?
Thatʼs a strong malicious force in the exact middle of my bosom. I strive against it with all my might, but itʼs so strong.
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 17, 2012, 21:55

What can I do with thaʼ?
Thatʼs a strong malicious force in
the exact middle of my bosom. I strive against it with all my might, but itʼs so
strong.
An acquaintance of mine, having associated somewhere with some northern English, felt a strong malicious force in the middle of his bosom to pronounce "рушн" and "рипублик", until the teacher promised to lower his mark at the exam...
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Post by: Искандер on April 17, 2012, 22:04
An acquaintance of mine, having associated somewhere with some northern English, felt a strong malicious force in the middle of his bosom to pronounce "рушн" and "рипублик", until the teacher promised to lower his mark at the exam...
Coz! Being a smatter fan of souths English I recomend to pronounce «ррррожн» and «ррррипобликь»
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Post by: Karakurt on April 18, 2012, 09:06
U as a is a normal English dialect, isn't it?
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 18, 2012, 09:18

U as a is a normal English dialect, isn't it?
Do you mean to say that there exist also abnormal English dialects?
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Post by: Karakurt on April 18, 2012, 09:20
No.
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Post by: iopq on April 18, 2012, 10:56
U as a is a normal English dialect, isn't it?
in put, yes
in some dialects the foot-strut split never happened, like in Ireland and northern England so it's [ʊ] everywhere
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Post by: autolyk on April 18, 2012, 11:09
in some dialects the foot-strut split never happened
The foot-strut split has nothing to do with that, OE ȝēow.
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Post by: iopq on April 18, 2012, 12:07
in some dialects the foot-strut split never happened
The foot-strut split has nothing to do with that, OE ȝēow.
I thought we were talking about Russian being read as [ruSn]
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Post by: autolyk on April 18, 2012, 15:44
Sorry, I misunderstood.
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Post by: Karakurt on April 18, 2012, 15:54
U as a is a normal English dialect, isn't it?
in put, yes
in some dialects the foot-strut split never happened, like in Ireland and northern England so it's [ʊ] everywhere
I mean in all words.
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Post by: iopq on April 18, 2012, 15:59
U as a is a normal English dialect, isn't it?
in put, yes
in some dialects the foot-strut split never happened, like in Ireland and northern England so it's [ʊ] everywhere
I mean in all words.
That's what I said. In Ireland and northern England it's in all words
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Post by: Karakurt on April 18, 2012, 16:01
Okay.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on April 23, 2012, 15:26
What does the word "iopq" mean?
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 23, 2012, 15:31

What does the word "iopq" mean?
And the word "sagay" is mysterious, too.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on April 23, 2012, 15:53

What does the word "iopq" mean?
And the word "sagay" is mysterious, too.
I'm glad to explain my nickname to you. My nationality is khakas (belongs a turkic people), and the word "sagay" identifies a person which belongs to a subethnic/trible group called "sagaylar". So I've just given my trible name, that's all.
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Post by: iopq on April 23, 2012, 15:57
What does the word "iopq" mean?
I am the terror that flaps in the night, I am the wrong number that wakes you up at 3 am.
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 23, 2012, 16:01
just given my trible name, that's all.
Thanks for the intelligible explanation.
What does the word "iopq" mean?
I am the terror that flaps in the night, I am the wrong number that wakes you up at 3 am.
And this explanation is terrible and not quite intelligible...  :o
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Post by: iopq on April 23, 2012, 17:00
just given my trible name, that's all.
Thanks for the intelligible explanation.
What does the word "iopq" mean?
I am the terror that flaps in the night, I am the wrong number that wakes you up at 3 am.
And this explanation is terrible and not quite intelligible...  :o
I'm sorry you didn't have a childhood
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Post by: Karakurt on April 23, 2012, 17:41
Maybe he had only wooden toys screwed to the floor?
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Post by: Искандер on April 23, 2012, 17:44
screwed to the floor?
ceiling
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on April 23, 2012, 21:37

Maybe he had only wooden toys screwed to the floor?
ceiling
Всё, всё понял, отстаньте наффиг.
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Post by: Марбол on April 23, 2012, 23:27
I am reading a paper in English in which a sort of vehicles is described. It's a pleasure to read a real English article, not of those translated from Russian by the suches. And at the last week I made a preliminary Russian-English dicrionary of the terms I use everyday. Having done the dictionary, I immediately found a lot of articles on my current issues.
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Post by: Karakurt on April 23, 2012, 23:34
a sort of vehicles
a number of?
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Post by: Марбол on April 23, 2012, 23:38
Maybe, it is a kind or a type of vehicles.
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Post by: iopq on April 24, 2012, 01:39
*a sort of vehicle
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Post by: Марбол on April 24, 2012, 06:42
*a sort of vehicle
Thank you!
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Post by: Искандер on May 4, 2012, 10:37
well, do you think "I've been wishing not to do smth" sounds good?
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Post by: autolyk on May 4, 2012, 10:44
Why not?
Lately I’ve been wishing I had one desire..
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Post by: iopq on May 4, 2012, 23:58
well, do you think "I've been wishing not to do smth" sounds good?
sure, but what does it mean?

if it's something particular like "I've been wishing not to fail at English" then it's OK
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Post by: Искандер on May 5, 2012, 17:53
sure, but what does it mean?
Like
Iʼve been wishing not to do that but this morning the circumstances have changed tho Iʼll do it.
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Post by: iopq on May 6, 2012, 00:59
sure, but what does it mean?
Like
Iʼve been wishing not to do that but this morning the circumstances have changed tho Iʼll do it.
I had been wishing not to do that, but this morning the circumstances have changed; I'll do it.

since the wishing was in the past it has to be in the past tense
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on May 6, 2012, 10:08

I had been wishing not to do that, but this morning the
circumstances have changed; I'll do it.

since the wishing was in the past
it has to be in the past tense
It is simpler to say "I didn’t want (or I hadn’t wanted) to do that...", or even beter "I wasn’t going to do that...", than to build such an awful consruction...
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Post by: autolyk on May 6, 2012, 10:14
It is simpler to say "I didn’t want (or I hadn’t wanted) to do that...", or even beter "I wasn’t going to do that...", than to build such an awful consruction...
Is a «since I’ve been loving you» also awful?
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on May 6, 2012, 10:19
Is «since I’ve been loving you» also awful?
Why not say "since I love you"?
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Post by: autolyk on May 6, 2012, 10:24
Why not say "since I love you"?
It’s R. Plant who sang not me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMbxbT1WA3Y&feature=fvst
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on May 6, 2012, 10:42
It’s R. Plant who sang not me:
Robert knows better, of course, but would he say so in the real world, not in a song? I just dont know...
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Post by: autolyk on May 6, 2012, 10:54
It seems to me he would, because there is a difference of sense between these expressions. 
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Post by: iopq on May 6, 2012, 11:08

I had been wishing not to do that, but this morning the
circumstances have changed; I'll do it.

since the wishing was in the past
it has to be in the past tense
It is simpler to say "I didn’t want (or I hadn’t wanted) to do that...", or even beter "I wasn’t going to do that...", than to build such an awful consruction...
but the perfect signifies that it's important to the present but it happened in the past
past perfect signifies it was important in the past and happened earlier

I didn't want to do that, but this morning the circumstances changed - мне не хотелось этого делать, но утром все поменялось
I had been wishing not to do it, but this morning the circumstances changed - я все это время не хотел этого делать, но утром все поменялось

there's a difference in meaning, in the second sentence the wishing came BEFORE the morning
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on May 6, 2012, 11:43
It’s a pity there are no native English-speaking people here...
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Post by: Passerby on May 6, 2012, 15:39
It’s a pity there are no native English-speaking people here...
iopq is an English native speaker, by the way.
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Post by: Hellerick on May 6, 2012, 15:57
iopq is an English native speaker, by the way.
Is Igor himself aware of this?
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Post by: Passerby on May 6, 2012, 16:01
iopq is an English native speaker, by the way.
Is Igor himself aware of this?
He said he speaks English better than Russian and Ukrainian, didn't he?
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Post by: iopq on May 7, 2012, 00:41
iopq is an English native speaker, by the way.
Is Igor himself aware of this?
I consider my first language to be Russian, mother tongue to be Ukrainian and my best language to be English...
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Post by: Искандер on May 8, 2012, 23:07
First or second, Iopq speaks it every day...
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Post by: iopq on May 9, 2012, 03:13
First or second, Iopq speaks it every day...
but it's my third  :-\
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Post by: Lodur on May 13, 2012, 14:22
Is «since I’ve been loving you» also awful?
Why not say "since I love you"?
«Since I’ve been loving you» = «there was a time I used to love you, and beginning from that time <...>».
«Since I love you» = «because I love you (now)».
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on July 28, 2012, 08:23
Hi,fellas! Have any of you seen phrases like "no can do"(means"I can't do that")? Its pattern looks "very hispanic" :??? but never mind the background (that must be a long story).. Just name some further examples of the pattern usage if they do exist.
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Post by: iopq on July 28, 2012, 10:40
Hi,fellas! Have any of you seen phrases like "no can do"(means"I can't do that")? Its pattern looks "very hispanic" :??? but never mind the background (that must be a long story).. Just name some further examples of the pattern usage if they do exist.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/no_can_do
From Chinese Pidgin English. A calque of Chinese 不能做.

(wiki/en) Chinese_Pidgin_English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Pidgin_English)
other examples in that article
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Post by: Искандер on July 28, 2012, 11:12
It will be "I boo neng zhoo it" correct soon with such a march...
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Post by: iopq on July 28, 2012, 11:24
bu4 neng2 zuo4
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on July 29, 2012, 16:53
He-he, I like the shitty English ;up: Thanks,iorq. I've recently downloaded the documenary series 'bout gangstas of the US called "Gangland".Been watching 'em for last 5 days. Some stuff!!! I mean linguistic stuff..))
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Post by: Искандер on August 7, 2012, 19:58
Quote
I donʼ understand, why God just put us here to have sex and than die

It seems I to improve my eng with theese guys. Nʼ girls.
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Post by: Искандер on August 19, 2012, 12:30
А это правда, или мне только  слышится, что англичане в конце своего гимна пропевают
God save the our Queen/King

???
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Post by: iopq on August 19, 2012, 13:30
it's God save the Queen
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Post by: Искандер on August 19, 2012, 13:34
it's God save the Queen
There is some short word between "the" and "Queen"... Sounds like ukrainian га or english "our".
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Post by: iopq on August 19, 2012, 13:35
it's God save the Queen
There is some short word between "the" and "Queen"... Sounds like ukrainian га or english "our".
link?
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Post by: Искандер on August 19, 2012, 13:44
I searched at youtube but havenʼt finded something like. I heard this in an audio at VK. Probably itʼs just »ha« with trumpets extra beat.
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Post by: Karakurt on August 19, 2012, 13:56
finded
ват?
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Post by: Искандер on August 19, 2012, 13:56
well, found.
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Post by: Versteher on September 4, 2012, 11:20
Smile!

 := A hidden camera is being recording you!  :=

  http://www.lingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5509
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Post by: -Dreamer- on September 4, 2012, 20:30
Quote
A hidden camera is being recording you!  :=
What's the name of this tense? It's something strange...
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Post by: Lodur on September 4, 2012, 20:39
Quote
A hidden camera is being recording you!  :=
What's the name of this tense? It's something strange...
Have you seen the warning?
Smile!
:)
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on September 4, 2012, 20:47
Have you seen the warning?





Цитата:
Versteher Сегодня в 11:20

Quote
Smile!
So, according to his pattern,  he’d better say "Be being smiling!"
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Post by: -Dreamer- on September 4, 2012, 20:49
Lodur, yes, you're pretty right. I should have known. But I don't agree with Versteher, I think that most people here can speak or read English. It's not Swedish, Hindi or Turkish. English is taught every f*cking where now. And the language itself is not so complicated to master.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on September 5, 2012, 09:03
I searched at youtube but havenʼt finded something like. I heard this in an audio at VK. Probably itʼs just »ha« with trumpets extra beat.
I don't mean to nag but wouldn't the preposition "on" sound better than the "at" in such a context? Is the prep. "at" admissible here at all?
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Post by: Versteher on September 5, 2012, 09:19
But why?

The more verba the better.

Verba cor linguae sunt.
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on September 5, 2012, 10:12
I ain't sayin it's bad. I just wanna make things clear for mysel.If i rememba rightly they say "on the site, on Twitter, on Youtube..." but neva "at",do they?
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Post by: iopq on September 5, 2012, 12:34
I searched at youtube but havenʼt finded something like. I heard this in an audio at VK. Probably itʼs just »ha« with trumpets extra beat.
I don't mean to nag but wouldn't the preposition "on" sound better than the "at" in such a context? Is the prep. "at" admissible here at all?
you can shout at youtube, so I guess if you have a microphone hooked up to a text to speech program...
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on September 5, 2012, 14:19
Yes, I can. But here I meant to talk over the locative meaning (for example, "where did ya find this vid?"-"On Youtube"/not "at Youtube"/). I sorta guessed that the prep. "at" is inconvenient for representing of locative relations in our case (when speaking about websites).
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Post by: iopq on September 6, 2012, 05:57
At Youtube = на ютюб (кричать на Ютюб, работать на Ютюб, и т.д.)
On Youtube = на ютюбе
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Post by: Maksim Sagay on September 6, 2012, 14:15
YOU said that :yes:
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Post by: Piraraka on December 18, 2012, 22:52
How about - "I searched Youtube", eh ?

Now back to the subject shall we?

I watched mini-series called "Ideal" recently, and I was really amazed by the accents they had there. I had to get me some subtitles fast otherwise I couldn't understand a thing they were saying.
Supposedly the actors are from Manchester so that must be a northern accent. Although once I had a chance to talk to a real Liverpudlian and she did not have any sort of an accent at all. She was educated I guess:)

As for the mini-series - I also liked "Black Adder" and I would highly recommend this classic of a show to anyone. Unfortunately I could not find any subtitles for this show. So I guess about 20-25% of the dialogues were lost to me due to accents (not very heavy by the way), bad sound quality and rapid speech of the actors. By the way the vocabulary used in this show is amazing as are the dialogues, I learned many new words and the humor is terrific! Rowan Atkinson is at his best!

Ta-ra!

P.S. Hope you'd be so kind as to point out any mistakes in my text. Thanks.
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Post by: sergik on May 4, 2013, 22:06
Let's discuss several points of the English grammar that I find interesting. For example, the "singular they."
(wiki/en) Singular_they (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they)
I've  come across an example of this in the Julian Barbour book "The End of Time". On page 43 there is a sentence:
"We can all tell the rough age of a person from a glance at their face".
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Post by: Marius on December 13, 2013, 08:51
Wazzup people, I wonder why would someone need an artificial language for international communication (say Esperanto for example) when we already have English being thought throughout the whole world. In the esperanto topic I remember myself mentioning that having God given Scripture in a particular language would highly increase it's vitality, believe it or not - that has already happened with English, so if you're are a Christian you have every reason to learn it despite of the lawlessness promoted by the West. You can find the Scripture over here (http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Main_Page).
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Post by: Piraraka on December 13, 2013, 12:07
Exactly!!! I also wonder why would someone need science and such, when the Scripture explains everything!

Pfff. Stupid godless humans!!! Read the Scripture and be blessed!  :D :D :D
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Post by: Marius on December 13, 2013, 12:23
What does science have to do with the previous message? Would you explain your point?
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Post by: Piraraka on December 13, 2013, 12:56
Well, actually Chinese is the most spoken language in the world, not English, I repeat - Chinese.

And that tells us something!!! That means GOD wants us all to speak Chinese.

You cannot ignore these facts! You just can't!
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Post by: Marius on December 13, 2013, 13:21
Well, my point wasn't the fact that God would want somebody speak a particular language, what I did try to emphasize was the fact that there are good motivational reasons for learning English for people who claim to be Christians. Regarding the number of speakers and the quantity of governmentally organized entities a.k.a countries, I'll attach two graphics found in the internet, hopefully the information contained should be quite accurate. Now on estimating the unity of the Chinese language, I'm not acquainted with it, but I can remember people saying the unity is more hieroglyphic in it's nature than linguistic, the various dialects being non understandable with each other.
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Post by: -Dreamer- on December 13, 2013, 13:25
Marius, that's just ridiculous. Those "letters from God and His Christ" are just a false prophecy. And English is not a sacred language. The real Scripture was written in Hebrew and Greek. But they aren't sacred, either. Indeed, those languages are respected by Christians, but it doesn't make them HOLY.  English is a living language spoken by over 300 million people as the first language. And that's why it's not fair to make it an international language. Some people are born with it and others have to study it hard if they don't wanna be the "second class". It sounds pretty chauvinistic.
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Post by: Piraraka on December 13, 2013, 15:39
Those "letters from God and His Christ" are just a false prophecy.

What a blasphemy, what a blasphemy!!!

Anyway, in the light of the statistics, methinks that Chinese GOD is more powerful than the English one!!!
Don't know about you guys, but I'm gonna learn Chinese. :green:
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Post by: Marius on December 13, 2013, 15:58
Learning Chinese seems to be a pretty wise option for you, seeing you already master the English language at a pretty decent level. My first message was addressed to people who are in the beginning of their journey into the English language and might be needing some motivation.
Your remark on the "Chinese God" being more powerful etc. is pretty funny, kind of reminds me childhood debates between boys on whose father is stronger and so on.
Again, I didn't intend to offend anybody, and if I did, I apologize for that.
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Post by: Piraraka on December 13, 2013, 16:41
No need to apologize, if anything it was funny:)
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Post by: Lodur on December 14, 2013, 12:25
Let's make the Sanskrit an international language. First of all, it is sacred, and secondly, there are virtually no people with Sanskrit as mother tongue.  :D
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Post by: Mercurio on December 14, 2013, 12:28
Let's make the Sanskrit an international language. First of all, it is sacred, and secondly, there are virtually no people with Sanskrit as mother tongue.  :D
I can't learn it, because it's very difficult ...
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Post by: Lodur on December 14, 2013, 12:31
I can't learn it, but it's very difficult ...
Hm, can you? :???
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Post by: Mercurio on December 14, 2013, 12:35
I can't learn it, but it's very difficult ...
Hm, can you? :???
Nope, I can't... I want to try. Do you have a manual? :)
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Post by: Piraraka on December 14, 2013, 12:44
manual...  :fp:
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Post by: Mercurio on December 14, 2013, 12:46
manual...  :fp:
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И че?
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Post by: Piraraka on December 14, 2013, 12:52
И чё... слышь чЁ семки есть? А еси найду? :D

A grammar, a textbook maybe? No?

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Post by: Hellerick on December 14, 2013, 12:55
A grammar, a textbook maybe? No?

Напрасно докапываетесь. Мануалы тоже бывают.
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Post by: Marius on December 14, 2013, 12:55
manual...  :fp:
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И че?
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Сейчас вас зарежут и принесут в жертву из-за того что вы допустили ошибку.
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Post by: Mercurio on December 14, 2013, 12:57
И чё... слышь чЁ семки есть? А еси найду? :D

A grammar, a textbook maybe? No?
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Молодец, медаль Вам за Ваши познания...
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Post by: Piraraka on December 14, 2013, 13:04
Напрасно докапываетесь. Мануалы тоже бывают.

SHOW ME TEH MAUNAL!!!
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Post by: Hellerick on December 14, 2013, 13:10
(https://covers.openlibrary.org/b/id/5926981-M.jpg)
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Post by: Piraraka on December 14, 2013, 13:15
 :=

OK, that's good.

Now how about something more up to date?
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Post by: Lodur on December 14, 2013, 15:47
:=

OK, that's good.

Now how about something more up to date?
Is year 2007 up to date enough? :???

http://www.amazon.com/Scholastic-Sanskrit-Students-Treasury-Sciences/dp/0975373471
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Post by: Lodur on December 14, 2013, 15:55
Nope, I can't... I want to try. Do you have a manual? :)
Why do you need a manual, if you can't learn it? :wall:

OK, you may try this one: http://www.scribd.com/doc/106528163/Samskrtasubodhini-a-Sanskrit-Primer-M-deshpande-2007
If, in any case, you'll find it unsuitable, I'll try to recommend some other one.
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Post by: Mercurio on December 14, 2013, 16:03
Nope, I can't... I want to try. Do you have a manual? :)
Why do you need a manual, if you can't learn it? :wall:

OK, you may try this one: http://www.scribd.com/doc/106528163/Samskrtasubodhini-a-Sanskrit-Primer-M-deshpande-2007
If, in any case, you'll find it unsuitable, I'll try to recommend some other one.
Thanks, I will try. At least try :)
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Post by: Ellidi on December 14, 2013, 16:20
manual...  :fp:
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И че?
With regard to the realm of application (language study), belike the noun handbook (D. Handbuch) is more apposite.

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Сейчас вас зарежут и принесут в жертву из-за того что вы допустили ошибку.
Meseems that the befitting (or at least adjuvant to the collocutor's study) reaction to errors is rectification rather than reprehension or condemnation.
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Post by: -Dreamer- on December 14, 2013, 16:30
Meseems that the befitting (or at least adjuvant to the collocutor's study) reaction to errors is rectification rather than reprehension or condemnation.
Ellidi, are you kidding us?? Why on earth are you using words like that? Most of them are either completely obsolete or just very bookish. Do you post for yourself or for others? Please use a more neutral language.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: procyone on December 14, 2013, 16:44
Well, actually Chinese is the most spoken language in the world, not English, I repeat - Chinese.

And that tells us something!!! That means GOD wants us all to speak Chinese.

You cannot ignore these facts! You just can't!

It's Mandarin to be precise. And the absolute number of Mandarin speakers doesn't mean much the speakers of the language live in China mostly or by Chinese diaspora in foreign countries.  On the other hand, English is a truly international language spoken in most countries of the world. You will find yourself speaking English rather Mandarin, while visiting foreign countries.
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Post by: Ellidi on December 14, 2013, 16:58
Ellidi, are you kidding us?? Why on earth are you using words like that? Most of them are either completely obsolete or just very bookish. Do you post for yourself or for others? Please use a more neutral language.
For two (or three, depending on whether I understood you aright) reasons: firstly, initially I recollected these words, this particular vocabulary, so I moulded my considerations with them. Secondly, remoulding them using more common-or-garden vocabulary would require from me considerable effort, inasmuch as it is unwonted for me. Thirdly, erstwhile you admitted that the vocabulary in my messages is interspersed with words unfamiliar to you and you were receptive to the occasion of familiarising yourself with them. If the third reason I surmised seems to you the product of my misinterpretation and/or miscomprehension, I apologise.
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Post by: procyone on December 14, 2013, 17:03
Well, actually Chinese is the most spoken language in the world, not English, I repeat - Chinese.

And that tells us something!!! That means GOD wants us all to speak Chinese.

You cannot ignore these facts! You just can't!

It's Mandarin to be precise. And the absolute number of Mandarin speakers doesn't mean much the speakers of the language live in China mostly or by Chinese diaspora in foreign countries.  On the other hand, English is a truly international language spoken in most countries of the world. You will find yourself speaking English rather Mandarin, while visiting foreign countries.

Ah! I cannot correct the errors I made, so I will repost the message.

It's Mandarin to be precise. And the absolute number of Mandarin speakers doesn't mean much as the  speakers of the language live in China mostly or the language is spoken by Chinese diaspora.On the other hand, English is a truly international language spoken in most countries of the world. You will find yourself speaking English rather Mandarin, while visiting other countries.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: -Dreamer- on December 14, 2013, 17:09
Thirdly, erstwhile you admitted that the vocabulary in my messages is interspersed with words unfamiliar to you and you were receptive to the occasion of familiarising yourself with them. If the third reason I inferred seems to you a product of my misinterpretation, I apologise.
Well, maybe you're right. I could memorize new words reading your posts. :) That's a real benefit, because I'm always eager to enlarge my vocabulary. I was just a little worried about others who might have some troubles in understanding your writing.
By the way, do you always talk like that? If a foreigner in Bulgaria adresses you in English, will you answer him in a similar way? That would sound quite strange, I guess.
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Post by: Piraraka on December 14, 2013, 17:20

Now how about something more up to date?
Is year 2007 up to date enough? :???
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Oh shit you gots me!!!

> Ellidi, are you kidding us?? Why on earth are you using words like that?

I think he's just having a laugh:)
Me likes it!

> English is a truly international language spoken in most countries of the world.

We'll see how English will be doing in a hundred years. Mwahahahah! :green:
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Post by: Rwseg on December 14, 2013, 18:27
Meseems that the befitting (or at least adjuvant to the collocutor's study) reaction to errors is rectification rather than reprehension or condemnation.
Personne parle ce langage comme le vôtre. C'est un langage bizarre et macaronique. Par exemple, adjuvant est plutôt un terme de médecin. C'est comme de parler en russe мне экзотермично à la place de мне жарко.
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Post by: Marius on December 15, 2013, 10:14
We'll see how English will be doing in a hundred years. Mwahahahah! :green:
Who knows how humanity will be doing in twenty years...
All these weapons of mass destruction having been manufactured, wouldn't it be naive to suppose nobody's gonna use them?
A small glance into the nearest future is available to us on the pages of the last book of the Bible.
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Post by: sergik on January 4, 2014, 20:18
Personne parle ce langage comme le vôtre. C'est un langage bizarre et macaronique. Par exemple, adjuvant est plutôt un terme de médecin. C'est comme de parler en russe мне экзотермично à la place de мне жарко.
Quel dialecte étrange! Etes-vous sûr de ce que vous dites en anglais?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: sergik on January 4, 2014, 20:27
Well, actually Chinese is the most spoken language in the world, not English, I repeat - Chinese.

And that tells us something!!! That means GOD wants us all to speak Chinese.

You cannot ignore these facts! You just can't!
And what if it's true?
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Post by: sergik on January 4, 2014, 20:36
We'll see how English will be doing in a hundred years. Mwahahahah! :green:
Wow! Are you really going to live for the next hundred years?! Have you cracked the Makropulos secret ?
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Post by: Poirot on January 4, 2014, 21:21
Today I received an sms from my friend saying that he feels like he poisoned himself. I sms'd back asking what does he sin on. He replied that on vodka. Laughed like an elephant above this.
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on January 4, 2014, 21:29
Eh, davno ne govoril po-angl Well, haven’t spoken English for ages! Awfully sorry. But English is such a bore for me, unfortunately. That’s unjust!
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Post by: sergik on January 4, 2014, 21:31
initially I recollected these words, this particular vocabulary, so I moulded my considerations with them.
And what did you use as a cast formwork for the molding?
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Poirot on January 4, 2014, 21:34
Ew, years ago I have not taken in hands of sabers.
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Post by: sergik on January 4, 2014, 21:35
He replied that on vodka
Isn't it a good time to change for maotai ?
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Post by: Piraraka on January 4, 2014, 22:45
Today I received an sms from my friend saying that he feels like he poisoned himself. I sms'd back asking what does he sin on. He replied that on vodka. Laughed like an elephant above this.
I tried to correct this as best as I could.

Today I received a text from a friend, saying that he has got a food poisoning. I texted back asking, what he thought could have caused that. He said vodka. I laughed my ass off / That made me crack up.
Title: Let's speak English!
Post by: Алексей Гринь on January 5, 2014, 02:32
did I already say London is the capital of Great Britain?
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Post by: sergik on January 5, 2014, 02:39
did I already say London is the capital of Great Britain?
Is Britain still great?
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on January 5, 2014, 02:47
Is Britain still great?
Britain is a small island no one listens to  :yes:
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Post by: sergik on January 5, 2014, 02:51
Britain is a small island no one listens to  :yes:
Ain't it a shame!
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Post by: Piraraka on January 5, 2014, 02:55
Britain is a small island no one listens to  :yes:
Ain't it a shame!
To hell with them, they are no friends to us, they never were:)
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Post by: sergik on January 5, 2014, 13:56
To hell with them, they are no friends to us, they never were:)
Is there any friend to us among English-speaking countries?  Is there any real friend among all of the countries in the world? 
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Post by: Poirot on January 5, 2014, 17:03
Is there any real friend among all of the countries in the world?
Real friend is army and navy.
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Post by: -Dreamer- on January 5, 2014, 17:26
I laughed my ass off
Ich hab mir den Arsch abgelacht. :green:
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Post by: -Dreamer- on January 5, 2014, 17:32
Eh, davno ne govoril po-angl Well, haven’t spoken English for ages! Awfully sorry. But English is such a bore for me, unfortunately. That’s unjust!
You may talk politics here. Nobody gives a sh*t, 'cause moderators don't seem to check this thread. :) I won't report you, I promise. :tss:
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on January 5, 2014, 17:47
that feel when no gf
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on January 5, 2014, 17:48
I won't report you, I promise
The Ukrainians will.
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Post by: -Dreamer- on January 5, 2014, 17:50
The Ukrainians will.
They tend to start x-srachs themselves all over the forum. Chya by mychala.
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Post by: Marius on January 5, 2014, 17:51
My coach used to say that people use obscene words when they have a limited vocabulary.
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Post by: -Dreamer- on January 5, 2014, 17:53
My coach used to say that people use obscene words when they have a limited vocabulary.
It's only partly true.
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Post by: Poirot on January 5, 2014, 18:17
My coach used to say that people use obscene words when they have a limited vocabulary.
Or in danger.
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Post by: -Dreamer- on January 5, 2014, 18:18
Or in danger.
Or in anger. :)
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Post by: Marius on January 5, 2014, 18:48
Maybe some of the moderators don't quite check this section simply because their fluency in the language here spoken is little bit lacking? If any of them will be reading this, don't take it seriously, I'm teasing you. So, it turns out that we have discovered a way to finally discuss what's on our minds without getting banned. Go on Rocky, I remember you saying something about my grandfather! Charge your cowboy gun and let's see who's quicker between us!
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Post by: Poirot on January 5, 2014, 18:50
Go on Rocky, I remember you saying something about my grandfather!
Back in the saddle.
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Post by: -Dreamer- on January 5, 2014, 18:56
I remember you saying something about my grandfather!
And what was wrong with your granddaddy? Was he a malicious Russophobe?
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Post by: Poirot on January 5, 2014, 19:36
I heard a nice joke-riddle today. Here it is.

- What is the difference between the Olympic Games in Moscow back in 1980 and in Sochi in 2014?

- They released Mishka in the end of Olympic Games in Moscow and in the beginning of the Olympic Games in Sochi.
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Post by: Marius on January 5, 2014, 20:09
offtop
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on January 5, 2014, 20:38
Go on Rocky, I remember you saying something about my grandfather! Charge your
cowboy gun and let's see who's quicker between us!
Marius, maybe your Granddad is the best Granddad in the world, but in that very matter on the alphabets he was historically wrong. Awfully sorry. Don’t take it as offence. I ain’t gonna draw the gun.
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on January 5, 2014, 20:40
- They released Mishka in the end of Olympic Games in Moscow and in the
beginning of the Olympic Games in Sochi.
:D
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Post by: Marius on January 5, 2014, 20:50
The gun thing was just a joke, only not yet grown children love to make use of them. On the alphabets, if I'm not wrong, you have been answered there in that topic that nobody denies the existence of the Cyrilic one in Romania, it's just the fact that some foreign force had blocked the use of the Roman one in the district of my nativity. And that was an instrument to rather divide the unity of my people than an attempt to preserve it's ancient script. Shalom lekha.
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Post by: Poirot on January 5, 2014, 20:55
Shalom lekha.
What is it?
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on January 5, 2014, 21:04
And that was an instrument to rather divide the unity of my people than an
attempt to preserve it's ancient script
Well, it looks like it’s the Rumanians who changed their original alphabet unnecessarily after the annexation of Bessarabia by Russia and thus broke the unity of your people (if there had been any).
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Post by: Marius on January 5, 2014, 21:18
(if there had been any).
You are to know better.
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on January 5, 2014, 21:27
(if there had been any).
You are to know better.
I meant the unity.
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Post by: -Dreamer- on January 5, 2014, 21:31
Pardon me, but I can't quite understand what you guys are talking about. Rocky, are you against the Latin-based Romanian alphabet? Do you think Russia changed it in order to separate the Moldovans from the Romanians? Well, it's not far from the truth, since the Soviets always saw some kind of threat to the integrity of their system even in languages. The Tajiks were similarly deprived of their ancient literary tradition and Azerbaijani Turks were just renamed to Azerbaijanis.
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Post by: Poirot on January 5, 2014, 21:42
and Azerbaijani Turks were just renamed to Azerbaijanis.
Don't be fooled by DagKhan.
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on January 5, 2014, 21:46
Pardon me, but I can't quite understand what you guys are talking about.
Oh, I see.
Rocky, are you against the Latin-based Romanian alphabet?
I don’t care a shit, frankly speaking.
Do you think Russia changed it in order to separate the Moldovans from the
Romanians?
No. The alphabet was changed by Rumanians later than the Russian annexation of Bessarabia took place. Why the Bessarabians  should obligatorily have obeyed the unnecessary decision of another state? And why the Russian government should have done that?
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on January 5, 2014, 21:49
and Azerbaijani Turks were just renamed to Azerbaijanis.
Don't be fooled by DagKhan.
+ a lot.
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Post by: -Dreamer- on January 5, 2014, 21:50
Don't be fooled by DagKhan.
He's a freaking awesome guy, man. You just can't fathom the width of his Turkic soul.
No. The alphabet was changed by Rumanians later than the Russian annexation of Bessarabia took place. Why the Bessarabians had obligatorily to have obeyed the unnecessary decision of another state? And why the Russian government must have done that?
That's interesting. I've never really delved into that story.
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Post by: Poirot on January 5, 2014, 21:52
He's freaking awsome guy, man.
In my view, a Russophobe is an enemy and cannot be an awsome guy by definition.
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Post by: Marius on January 5, 2014, 22:16
Without a very deep investigation, I have found this information:
Quote
After the Revolution of 1905, a group of Moldavians - Pan Halippa, Stere, Pelivan and others - decided on the publication of a newspaper in Roumanian; and on June 27, 1906, appeared the first number of "Basarabia," under E. Gavrilitza as editor. It was published in the Cyrillic (Slav) character, but each issue had one article in the Roman lettering current in Roumania. It took a firm stand for the official use of Roumanian beside Russian in courts, church and schools; for the breaking up of the landed estates; and for passive resistance to the authorities, to hasten these reforms. Naturally the reactionaries triumphed, "Basarabia" was suppressed in March 1907, Gavrilitza and Halipa were imprisoned, and it was not till after the Russian Revolution of 1917 that the revolutionary authorities again brought out many pamphlets in Roumanian, precursors of the new era.
Bessarabia, Russia and Roumania on the Black Sea ~ Charles Upson Clarck, New York 1927
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Post by: Алексей Гринь on January 5, 2014, 22:25
what is Slav
baby, dont hurt me, dont hurt me,
no more
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Post by: RockyRaccoon on January 5, 2014, 22:26
Gavrilitza and Halipa were imprisoned
I wonder what the Rumanian authorities would do to those who in 1906 would have published something in the Cyrillic in Rumania.
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Post by: Rwseg on January 6, 2014, 18:00
Messieurs et mesdames, lète mi spique frome maï arte ine Inegliche.
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Post by: -Dreamer- on January 6, 2014, 18:04
Messieurs et mesdames, lète mi spique frome maï arte ine Inegliche.
I wish you had similar politicians in Scotland, too. But it seems that the whole world likes taking the piss only out of Russia. Well, we must have deserved it.