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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 19, 2007, 08:12
I can't believe there's no topic here for this very popular language :)

Well, I think that's part of the problem, since there's an actual section of the forum that is dedicated to the language.

Regardless, post in English; I will correct your mistakes.
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Отправлено: klaus от Апреля 20, 2007, 09:32
"Regardless, post in English; I will correct your mistakes."

Medice, cura te ipsum.
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 20, 2007, 09:49
"Regardless, post in English; I will correct your mistakes."

Medice, cura te ipsum.
Sorry, this is not the Latin thread.
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Отправлено: guest от Октября 24, 2008, 20:26
I can't believe there's no topic here for this very popular language :)

Well, that's for it! This language's world-wide, there's so much interest in it. ecpesially in Russian... That's why, from my point of view, at this forum it's a very small popularity.  :???  :yes:
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Отправлено: iopq от Октября 25, 2008, 16:45
Of course that's the reason for it, since everyone thinks their English is so good :)
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Отправлено: Akulina от Октября 29, 2008, 03:24
Yes, let's speak English! What shall we discuss?
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Отправлено: regn от Октября 29, 2008, 06:12
Maybe, the election here in the US that's going to happen in 7 days? ;-)
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Отправлено: iopq от Октября 29, 2008, 06:23
Let's discuss several points of the English grammar that I find interesting. For example, the "singular they."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
This is used to refer to people of indeterminate gender or of indeterminate number. Long ago theis was delegated to the pronoun "he." But in the twentieth century it became more politically correct to write "he or she." Other possible nouns used in this situation are "one," "each," and "a person." Colloquially, the singular they is probably the most used. But most prescriptive grammars say that pronouns must agree in number; they state that the singular they is incorrect usage.
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Отправлено: iopq от Октября 29, 2008, 06:33
Maybe, the election here in the US that's going to happen in 7 days? ;-)
That's boring, in reality elections don't change anything because both candidates agree on everything but minor issues. Obama will take troops out of Iraq... and put them in Afghanistan. But McCain will just put more troops in Afghanistan. Big deal.
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Отправлено: Akulina от Октября 29, 2008, 06:50
Alright :)
1) Election. I guess I'm on the Obama side. Not that I like him or anything, but I really do detest the Palin woman. Anyway, my opinion doesn't make any difference, since I live in Canada :)
2) Singular they. Ah yes, it is an interesting topic which I come across all the time. Personally, I try using "one" when in doubt. "They" is sometimes inavoidable, too, of course. It's rather awkward, but I think "he or she" is worse - it's longer, and really looks much too formal. I've never seen a singular they combined with a singular verb, though. It's always "they walk", never "they walks".
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Отправлено: iopq от Октября 29, 2008, 07:42
Of course, the singular they is always used grammatically as plural. But its meaning is not necessarily plural.

If you detest Palin that just means you live in a big city. Obama tries to appeal to an audience from big cities and make the rural population look ridiculous by saying they cling to their religion and guns. Palin tries to appeal to the rural population by saying that people from small towns are somehow better. They both try to separate people by using group mentality. Democrats want their team to win, Republicans want their team to win too. It has nothing to do with actual policy.
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Отправлено: regn от Октября 29, 2008, 08:04
Palin basically doesn't know what she's talking about. Actually, this is not her fault, nor McCain's. McCain learned a lesson years ago that in the campaign nothing's dirty and nothing is unacceptable once you've decided you want to persuade your goals. In this case the goal is power, and Bush in his march defeated McCain by using all the means he could. Now McCain's behavior reflects that 100%. He already accused Obama of being a terrorist, communist, and other names, and these are not the worst things he's doing.

Sarah is barely aware of two facts: a) what a president does; b) what a VICE-PRESIDENT does... Moreover, she's using statements to bash Obama that she used in her own speeches and policies in the past. For example, one of her biggest recent speeches included a comment about Obama's policies in which she called them communist based on his statements about collective something. Keith Olbermann played a little audio from her past background in which she uses similar statements in her campaign in Alaska, meaning, she's done what she's now trying to bash and present as bad things...

Anyways, the whole thing's ridiculous. Those two can barely be called politicians. And it's almost funny to see those two clowns running for such high positions.... One thing I know for sure - McCain is even worse than Bush :( This jerk doesn't bother to process primitive things - his destructive behavior knows no limits...

I'm even not talking about the story of Miss Buffalo Chip which you guys know, I assume...
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Отправлено: Akulina от Октября 29, 2008, 08:16
Um, I won't comment on the big cities. I'm not that much into US politics, really. What set me up against Palin was her talking about the enemies of US. I don't recall the exact wording now, but it was something like "authoritarian Islamic states such as Afghanistan, Iran, and Russia." Call me an elitist, but the idea of her as a vice-president scares me.
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Отправлено: iopq от Октября 29, 2008, 08:21
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Those two can barely be called politicians
You obviously don't know what a politician is.
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Отправлено: regn от Октября 29, 2008, 17:10
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You obviously don't know what a politician is.

Excuse me?

Well, I guess I know what you mean... In this case, George Bush is a "real American president" lol
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Отправлено: regn от Октября 29, 2008, 17:22
When a person uses someone's middle name to define THEM as a person and this sh*t lasts for weeks before another ridiculous statement comes out, what the heck are they doing in politics??? iopq, you probably don't know what the real situation is...
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Отправлено: regn от Октября 29, 2008, 17:23
THE REPUBLICAN IDEAS (even though I am personally not thrilled with them) DESERVE BETTER REPRESENTATIVES
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Отправлено: regn от Октября 29, 2008, 17:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOkPFtPHpy4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4RTlfRYLxA

very serious politics :-D lol
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Отправлено: iopq от Октября 29, 2008, 17:28
When a person uses someone's middle name to define THEM as a person and this sh*t lasts for weeks before another ridiculous statement comes out, what the heck are they doing in politics??? iopq, you probably don't know what the real situation is...
I don't care, just because Republicans are idiots doesn't make Obama good in any way.
THE REPUBLICAN IDEAS (even though I am personally not thrilled with them) DESERVE BETTER REPRESENTATIVES
Ron Paul is the best representative of Republican ideals.
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Отправлено: regn от Октября 29, 2008, 18:01
Yeah, but Ron Paul is not there for McCain...

I was not trying to say that Obama's the holy God... I just tried to make a point that McCain was even worse.
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Отправлено: iopq от Октября 29, 2008, 22:30
I didn't argue that McCain was better. I argue that both suck. Vote third party.
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Отправлено: regn от Октября 29, 2008, 22:38
I can't agree that Obama sucks so hard... I like the guy eventually. Also 'cause he's black. I know it's blunt to think this way, but it kinda pleases me that America will have a black president.

Which of his policies do you specifically dislike?

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Отправлено: Akulina от Октября 30, 2008, 00:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOkPFtPHpy4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4RTlfRYLxA

very serious politics :-D lol

Good dear God.  :o
I can't believe this. He's... Just who exactly he is trying to appeal to?
Am I happy I don't live in the US now. Though having _that_ as a neighbour...
I'd like a different globe, please  :no:
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Отправлено: regn от Октября 30, 2008, 01:10
He's trying to pimp out his own wife. He was not quite aware of what kind of "beauty contest" Miss Buffalo Chip was and told those bikers that he was encouraging his wife Sindy (the woman in the bgr) to compete. The actual contest is for whores who come to show their boobs. Of course, McCain was a bit suprised (and so was Sindy) when the crowd started roaring "show us your tits!"
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Отправлено: iopq от Октября 30, 2008, 05:06
I can't agree that Obama sucks so hard... I like the guy eventually. Also 'cause he's black. I know it's blunt to think this way, but it kinda pleases me that America will have a black president.

Which of his policies do you specifically dislike?


I dislike his position on Afghanistan, because he says we need more troops in Afghanistan. i think we need less troops everywhere.

I don't like his health care proposal. We all know how badly the Social Security system is doing right now and he wants to create ANOTHER inefficient bureaucracy.

He voted for the Patriot Act in 2006. He voted for the bailout bill. I could list more things, but he basically agrees with McCain on a whole host of issues.
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Отправлено: regn от Октября 30, 2008, 18:20
Yeah, I agree that his health care policies will increase the level of bureaucracy, but, you know, with the current situation when 47 million people aren't insured, I think any bureaucracy should be welcomed... I'm sorry if my vision of the whole thing seems blunt, but I've got friends in Pennsylvania who waited days and days 'til they felt bad enough and got to an E-room! 'cause their f*cking health insurance didn't cover something!  :down:
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Отправлено: sharman01 от Октября 30, 2008, 23:08
People, why burn the fuse? Let them rotten politicians do what they anyway would in this crazy world!
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Отправлено: iopq от Ноября 6, 2008, 06:49
What's that? You have to pay people for their work? NO, that can't be possible! Make the government pay for it.
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Ноября 8, 2008, 19:17
Well, and there's not topics anymore, which are possible to talk about except politics?
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Отправлено: KARINA от Ноября 10, 2008, 22:35
hello everybody))))))))) :)
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Отправлено: Strom от Ноября 11, 2008, 16:43
arseniiv
oh, that's my second post in this forum only, and it's cool to meet a namesake=) Frankly speaking, that's the first time I meet "arseniys" except me on the web) do you find this topic to be a proper one to be discussed&)
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Ноября 12, 2008, 18:32
Oh, it's cool thing! But it's nothing anymore to say by me because it's too many words. My English isn't a thing that's good which I have. It will be better if we'll wait for some more people. I save myself only with Lingvo dictionary! :what:
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Отправлено: Ernestino от Декабря 23, 2009, 15:08
Hi, English-speakers!
Frankly, I am a bit surprised why there has been no single posting for a whole year!
Are you so much tired of English?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 23, 2009, 15:12
Means no one wants to use this language ;D
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Отправлено: Sagit от Декабря 23, 2009, 15:24
Means no one wants to use this language ;D

Or everyone there are so shy men
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Отправлено: Ernestino от Декабря 23, 2009, 15:30
Means no one wants to use this language ;D
Yeah, I guess there is too much English around   ::)
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 23, 2009, 16:27
Is it as much as water in the Ocean?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 23, 2009, 17:22
Is it as much as water in the Ocean?
:yes: perhaps even more.
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Отправлено: Umnyashka от Декабря 25, 2009, 12:59
I can't overcome the barrier of the English language! But I really want this! :what:  I have nobody, who can do practise with me! :wall:
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 25, 2009, 13:51
nobody, who
Сomma isn't needed here. :)
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Отправлено: Rōmānus от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:08
As if the period were the only problem here...
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:14
As if the period were the only problem here...
Someone here is having her period? Is that a problem?  :???
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:21
As if the period were the only problem here...
eh? You mean the full stop, aye?

Someone here is having her period? Is that a problem?  :???
:( perv.
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Отправлено: Rōmānus от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:22
eh? You mean the full stop, aye?

Aye :)
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:35
For how many years have you been studying English?
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:36
What's up with the full stop?
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Отправлено: Rōmānus от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:39
For how many years have you been studying English?

Let's see - on and off about 6 years, of which 4 years I did study it and for 2 years it had been the medium of instruction for me, thus I did not study English per se. Later on, I worked for an American boss for some 7 years
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:40
What's up with the full stop?
the sky, if you wanted to ask "что же не так с точкой?" then you ought to write "What's with the full stop thing?" (that's a GenAme variant of asking)
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:42
Let's see - on and off about 6 years, of which 4 years I did study it and for 2 years it had been the medium of instruction for me, thus it did not study English per se
Well for 6 years of your studies the result is more than satisfactory I assume. :)
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Отправлено: Rōmānus от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:45
Let's put it this way - I am content with what I have. There is always room for improvement, but I see no point in doing so. I have more than enough for my professional and personal needs. Anyway I am not too thrilled about English language which I find rather dull in comparison to other language. For me it is just a tool, an implement that helps accessing sources about other languages - nothing else
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:51
Perhaps you should consider every language by its beauty but not by its necessity. Indeed you have lots of improvements to make in your wrriten English :) (when you introduce a topic or a statement there's a phrase to put in which can be used with partial inversion :P)
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Отправлено: Rōmānus от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:53
Perhaps you should consider every language by its beauty

I do

Indeed you have lots of improvements to make in your wrriten English

Keep your personal opinion to yourself. Thank you
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 14:56
Keep your personal opinion to yourself. Thank you
I believe that here our points of view differ: I think that it's better to be corrected by someone than making the same mistake a few times.
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Отправлено: Rōmānus от Декабря 25, 2009, 15:02
I think that it's better to be corrected by someone

I think it is better not to correct anyone if you have not been specifically asked to do so. Anyway, I find it rather peculiar when non-natives fancy themselves being the "style-gurus" in English. Sorry, but I have my doubt about the quality of your advice. I heard the opinions of natives themselves and if there are some problems with my English, you are not qualified enough to find them (not to mention: to correct them)
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 15:09
I find it rather peculiar when non-natives fancy themselves being the "style-gurus" in English.
Presumably you have met those so called 'style-gurus' and you think that I'm one of them, but I'm not. If you were offended by my message then I'm sincerely sorry.
I heard the opinions of natives themselves and if there are some problems with my English, you are not qualified enough to find them
I may say the same: I talk to natives almost everyday using skype/MSN, they correct my flaws and I don't make a fuss out of it.
Sorry, but I have my doubt about the quality of your advice.
Mind me showing where have I imposed my opinion on you?
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 25, 2009, 15:11
the sky, if you wanted to ask "что же не так с точкой?" then you ought to write "What's with the full stop thing?" (that's a GenAme variant of asking)
Thanks. I'm glad anyway I've right used the article. Because I always fear to use it wrong.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 15:13
Thanks. I'm glad anyway I've right used the article. Because I always fear to use it wrong.

:UU:
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Отправлено: Rōmānus от Декабря 25, 2009, 15:19
they correct my flaws

If I were you, then I could jump on this glaring example of word misuse here. Those foreigners certainly are not able to correct your flaws (=vices), just the mistakes. But I will not follow your bad example and I will leave your English alone

they correct my flaws and I don't make a fuss out of it.

You don't see logic problem here, do you? You are corrected by native speakers, while you (a non-native) try to correct me, unprompted - and you expect me to react to your pitiful attempts at corrections in the same way as you react to the correction by the natives? Who gave you the damn right to correct me and feel smug about it?

Mind me showing where I have imposed my opinion on you?

oh, shall I feel grateful for it? :o
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 15:29
I see no misuse there because the word flaw can be used to describe imperfections in something untangible.
You are corrected by native speakers, while you (a non-native) try to correct me, unprompted - and you expect me to react to your pitiful attempts at corrections in the same way as you react to the correction by the natives?
First of all watch your language. Yet again you perceive things in a strange way: I had no intentions in seeing the same reaction from you, I am trying to be friendly here while you are using offence for defending yourself (clever tactics they are).
I can, from this point, assume that you have doubts in the educational system of universities in Lithuania because you are constantly repeating that my English is at a low level, thank you.

oh, shall I feel grateful about it? :o
Care to use a translator for once to get a clear picture of WHAT am I trying to tell you?

Who gave you the damn right to correct me and feel smug about it?
Oh yes, of course! I keep having orgasms when I correct others, what a brilliant idea.
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Отправлено: Rōmānus от Декабря 25, 2009, 15:40
I see no misuse there because the word flaw can be used to describe imperfections in something untangible.

Try asking your friends next time, you might be surprised

I am trying to be friendly here

I asked you specifically not to correct me, yet you insist on doing just that. What is so "friendly" about it? :down: I would say it was rather downright hostile

I can, from this point, assume that you have doubts in the educational system of universities in Lithuania because you are constantly repeating that my English is at a low level, thank you.

Switching topic is a favorite tool of a seasoned demagogue. No, sweetheart, I do not "constantly repeat" anything about your English, I couldn't care less. There is a fundamental difference between somebody's ability to use English himself and to be proficient enough to be able to correct the others. Sorry, but you are not quite there, at least not for me. Your English might be ok, but that does not make you qualified to teach me English. Do you see my point?

Care to use a translator for once to get a clear picture of WHAT am I trying to tell you?

Care to read before hitting "reply" button?
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Keep your personal opinion to yourself. Thank you
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 25, 2009, 15:55
OMG. It is again!
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 15:56
Try asking your friends next time, you might be surprised
Aha. I know that it's good, others didn't complain so you fail.
I asked you specifically not to correct me, yet you insist on doing just that. What is so "friendly" about it? :down: I would say it was rather downright hostile
From the point you wrote that sentence I did not correct you, or will you say that I did?
witching topic is a favorite tool of a seasoned demagogue. No, sweetheart, I do not "constantly repeat" anything about your English, I couldn't care less. There is a fundamental difference between somebody's ability to use English himself and to be proficient enough to be able to correct the others. Sorry, but you are not quite there, at least not for me. Your English might be ok, but that does not make your qualified to teach me English. Do you see my point?
Amazing, I'm a seasoned demagogue, I'm more than amused.
I don't care how you judge my English, I know that it's above than average, I get normal grades and lecturers are fine with it. I may not be qualified but I can I'm studying English at university and you're not (I can recall that your main was Economics, but not English Philology), that's the differences and that's the point.
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Отправлено: Rōmānus от Декабря 25, 2009, 16:11
I know that it's good, others didn't complain so you fail.

I fail at what?! :o I suggested you ask your friends about the correct usage of word "flaw", nothing else. Shall I subtitle my texts in English for you if google-translate is failing you and you do not comprehend the easiest things?

I don't care how you judge my English, I know that it's above than average

Bla-bla-bla. Next step would be to start measuring penises. Chill out, man. Specially for you a small musical circuit-breaker :green:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIrCFrFpHvw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIrCFrFpHvw</a>

I'm studying English at university

Unfortunately it does not save you from embarrassing mistakes:
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I can recall that your main was Economics

It is called major, not "main", sweetheart. Just trying to be "friendly" ;)
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 16:17
I suggested you ask your friends about the correct usage of word "flaw", nothing else. Shall I subtitle my texts in English for you if google-translate is failing you and you do not comprehend the easiest things?
I did ask them, they reply was: yes, it can be used like that in that sentence.

It is called major, not "main", sweetheart. Just trying to be "friendly" ;)
There are no majors in Lithuania, only mains, same applies to Britain. Thanks for sweetheart, it really warms up my heart <3.

Bla-bla-bla. Next step would be to start measuring penises. Chill out, man. Specially for you a small musical circuit-breaker :green:
But I don't want to measure my penis, I'm fine with it. Btw, I love that song.
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 25, 2009, 16:18
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Roman, I see you really do something unpleasant. i℧. I have no words to say it normally (I mean whether you see you're using some off-handed words).

I love that song
And I.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 16:24
Roman, I see you really do something unpleasant.
It's his style to troll others! :UU: :D
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 25, 2009, 16:31
It's his style to troll others! :UU: :D
I saw. But I didn't see these.
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Отправлено: Rōmānus от Декабря 25, 2009, 16:41
There are no majors in Lithuania, only mains

Just for your information: "mains" are in the socket, not at the university. probably, you are just too smart to know such things
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Отправлено: Rōmānus от Декабря 25, 2009, 16:43
It's his style to troll others!

It is your style to "friendly" correct the people, even if they asked you not to do so. How is it called? Surprise, surprise - it is trolling
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 16:45
There are no majors in Lithuania, only mains

Just for your information: "mains" are in the socket, not at the university. probably, you are just too smart to know such things
:-[ you're right.
It's his style to troll others!

It is your style to "friendly" correct the people, even if they asked you not to do so. How is it called? Surprise, surprise - it is trolling
YAY I'M A TROLL, thank you very much.
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 25, 2009, 16:54
Let us be still! What is the weather? I see snowing if sun rise now.

Correct me, anybody, please. I feel my past sentences are wry.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 17:03
arseniiv лучше: Lets calm down! How's the weather? здесть можно по0русски, а то смысла не понял :-[
..., anyone, ... . I think my previous sentence is wrong.

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И сколько невежества у человека, что всё время использует грубейшие слова. Вроде человек он адекватный, а реакция как у (вырезано). (невольно напрашивается вопрос, как такой неуравновешенный человек мог получить права модератора причём глобального?) Или ментальность у людей настолько разная, что любая попытка сделать что-нить хорошего воспринимаются в штыки, а?
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 25, 2009, 17:30
I see snowing if sun rise now.
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Я увижу снегопад, если (каким-то чудом; оно уже село) встанет солнце.

How's the weather?
I think different. ;D
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 17:39
Я увижу снегопад, если (каким-то чудом; оно уже село) встанет солнце.
I'll see the snow fall if the sun shows up.
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 25, 2009, 17:44
It isn't interesting...
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Декабря 25, 2009, 17:53
After the rain snow melted so it's messy here. :(
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 25, 2009, 18:09
Awww. :what:
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Отправлено: jazzykowa от Января 10, 2010, 21:00
since it's the purpose of this topic - improving our English  - then why the hell aren't we to correct each other? Let go of your pride in this case, otherwise you'll see no improvement whatsoever.

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Отправлено: Andrei N от Января 11, 2010, 12:21
This morning I did not recognise a person I know standig 5 steps b4 me, and I should have greeted him. Now I am sure he thinks I am insane. Have you ever had such experience?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Января 11, 2010, 12:45
then why the hell aren't we to correct each other? Let go of your pride in this case, otherwise you'll see no improvement whatsoever.
Some people like quarrels over nothing. A sad person he is because of his pride...
This morning I did not recognise a person I know standig 5 steps b4 me, and I should have greeted him. Now I am sure he thinks I am insane. Have you ever had such experience?
Yes, due to my poor sight I often fail to recognise others.
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Отправлено: jazzykowa от Января 11, 2010, 19:55
Some people like quarrels over nothing. A sad person he is because of his pride..
It's not really over nothing, it is over self-esteem, I guess. We all are that annoying sometimes, because we fail to see our mistake. But it's actually no big deal.

This morning I did not recognise a person I know standig 5 steps b4 me, and I should have greeted him. Now I am sure he thinks I am insane. Have you ever had such experience?
You can always excuse yourself by saying you were hungover ^^
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 21, 2010, 13:44
Цитата: Aleksey
Hi, I'm a duck. I don't care about sex or COD, I just want your bread.
What's COD? A fish or 'Call Of Duty' ? :)
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 13:57
'Call Of Duty'
:yes:
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 14:29
What's COD? A fish or 'Call Of Duty' ? :)

I should have thought it meant something like ZOG. :D
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 15:09
Didn't you know that ZOG and this forum's admin signed a treaty in which both sides are willing to cooperate in the extermination of people who dislike jews and other people?
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 15:57
Oh, indeed? But which admin do you mean, the current or the authentic one?

I would be quite safe if only my attitude towards Jews was at issue. I don't mind Jews. At school I used to be on friendly terms with a lad who suddenly turned out to be a Jew (it was unexpected even for himself); I learned a couple of Jewish phrases from him: ma nishma-beseder and the like.

But as for "other people", I'm really not sure. As a matter of fact I belong to "other people". :uzhos: What are we to do, Koté?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 16:06
We must fight for our rights! ¡Viva la revolución! And by others I mean other people who have issues (anti-ukranian, ...)
But! I don't really care about person's nationality as long as their attitudes towards me and my country are neutral.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 16:11
I see I misunderstood you. All the better, because so far I don't have any negative prejudices towards nationalities. Now that it's clear we are not in danger of immediate extermination (at least by the admins), one can relax and criticise their approach. After all, to exterminate people it's a kind of sin, isn't it?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 16:13
isn't it?
It's a genocide. Or mass murders.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 16:15
I don't approve of mass murders, I should say.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 16:16
We should reprehend our admin for being inclined to mass murders. Perhaps he'll cancel the treaty.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 16:20
We can try ;D But he'll refuse. He's very evil, you know? :D
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 16:32
I'll try.

Dear Admin (the one who is set upon mass murders I mean),

I do reprehend you for your inhuman approach. One should not get mixed up in mass murders. Did you ever think that innocent people can suffer? The posthumous rehabilitation is little consolation for them. And if a person is really averse to a nation, in first place he is to be admonished that Jews or Ucrainians are quite the same human beings as he is and that it's most stupid to discrimitate people according to the language they spead or which country they were born in. But if we ever start murdering each other, we are not likely to solve the problem. The people will just hate another people, and it all leads nowhere.

Sincerely yours,
Kvas.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 16:40
Mind me correcting it for you? ;D
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 16:41
Mind me correcting it for you? ;D

It goes without saying!
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 16:43
Is that so? :P I hope he is reading this message of yours.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 16:45
Is that so?

Uhm. As a matter of fact it goes without saying that I don't mind.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 16:55
Then I misunderstood :D

Dear Admin (the one who is set upon mass murders I mean),

I do condemn you for your inhuman approaches. One should not get involved in mass murders. Have you ever thought that innocent people can suffer? The posthumous rehabilitation is a little consolation for them. And if a person is really averse to a nation, firstly he is to be admonished by the fact Jews or Ucrainians are the same human beings as he is and it's most stupid thing to discriminate people by their language they speak or in what country were they born. But if we ever start killing each other we won't solve this problem. People will just hate other people, and it all leads to nowhere.

Yours sincerely,
Kvas.

I hope other grammarnazis won't pluck out my eyes for this :D
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Апреля 21, 2010, 17:11
Inglish is my naytive langage. Hello. London is the capitle of greate Britain. My fatother is a Janitor.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 17:21
Inglish is my naytive langage. Hello. London is the capitle of greate Britain. My fatother is a Janitor.
And you're a gay-mer? :D
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Апреля 21, 2010, 17:49
Wow,it's quite funny here.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 21:57
Alexey, thanks a lot, comrade! You know, English is not my native tongue, and I'm alway glad when I can improve it a bit. So if you ever care to correct me, I'd only be grateful. :yes:

As for my petition, now it's not only Humanistic and Wise, but also Eloquent, and I hope it can move even callous members of ZOG. ;up:
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 21:59
Wow,it's quite funny here.

Personally I don't find anything funny about massacres. :down:
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 22:05
Алексей Гринь, I'm afraid there are quite a few spelling mistakes in your post. I hope you won't mind my corrections.

English is my naytive language. Hello. London is the capital of greate Britain. My fatother (?) is a Janitor.

But I'm not a native speaker myself, so you'd better wait for others to comment.

By the way, do you live in London?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 22:27
Alexey, thanks a lot, comrade! You know, English is not my native tongue, and I'm alway glad when I can improve it a bit. So if you ever care to correct me, I'd only be grateful. :yes:

As for my petition, now it's not only Humanistic and Wise, but also Eloquent, and I hope it can move even callous members of ZOG. ;up:
Well.. it isn't my mother tongue either :) When I can I'll try to correct your mistakes.
But I'm not a native speaker myself, so you'd better wait for others to comment.

By the way, do you live in London?
He's a troll (remember the thread where someone posted few definitions of this word? it meant a homosexual as well :D So Grin fails once again.)
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 22:30
He's a troll

Is he? Such a pity. I thought he could tell something curious about the Houses of Parliament or Westminster Abbey or the Big Ben.
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Апреля 21, 2010, 22:31
Алексей Гринь, I'm afraid there are quite a few spelling mistakes in your post. I hope you won't mind my corrections.
I was kind of kidding, actually I know English better than anyone here including regn and iopq!

By the way, do you live in London?
A little tip: my father uses a mop.

He's a troll (remember the thread where someone posted few definitions of this word? it meant a homosexual as well :D So Grin fails once again.)
Remind me please
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 22:50
Remind me please
I don't remember the exact name of that damned thread :-[ but it won't change back your sexual orientation.
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:13
but it won't change back your sexual orientation.
Well, yuo've caught me so it's time for me to come out dem Rumpelkammer: i'm bisexual! I hope daddy won't be ashamed of me...

(http://static.dailystrength.org/userfiles/6/6/3/0/310366/pg_150211885.png)

Since the issue appears to have been solved, let's continue to practice our perfect English. You didn't question my answer: my father is a janitor and he uses a mop. Where am I from? ;D
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:15
Where am I from? ;D
What a stupid question :D How can I know?
Since the issue appears to have been solved, let's continue to practice our perfect English.
let's continue to practice our perfect English.
our perfect English.
perfect English.
perfect
MY perfect English.
Ok.
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:22
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our perfect English.
Цитата: Алексей Гринь от Сегодня в 23:13
Цитировать
perfect English.
Цитата: Алексей Гринь от Сегодня в 23:13
Цитировать
perfect
MY perfect English.
Ok.
English is perfect regardless of one's skills :\

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Where am I from? ;D
What a stupid question :D How can I know?
It's a linguistic puzzle... Pretty primitive, just look it up in the dictionary
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:24
I was kind of kidding

I'd say we've had a rather jocular talk. ;) But I admit you have puzzled me with the mop of your father.
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:25
But I admit you have puzzled me with the mop of your father.
You've solved it? The keyword is JANITOR :)
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:27
So a man can give birth to a child? :o
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:29
Well, yuo've caught me so it's time for me to come out dem Rumpelkammer: i'm bisexual!

If you're as old as the chap on your avatar, it doesn't matter any more.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:31
English is perfect regardless of one's skills :\
Lies. English is mine. Get your own English.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:33
You've solved it?

I'm afraid I'm too stupid today.  :-[
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:34
I don't know, maybe British janitors like mops as much as my father does...

If you're as old as the chap on your avatar, it doesn't matter any more.
To love all ages are subservient!..

I'm afraid I'm too stupid today.
Oh gosh http://lingvo.yandex.ru/en?st_translate=on&text=janitor&from=fx3&encyc_redir=on
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:35
The keyword is JANITOR :)
Jerusalem! you're a jew!
aka USA.
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:37
my father is a janitor and he uses a mop. Where am I from? ;D

Maybe from a bucket with suds?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:38
Maybe from a bucket with suds?
Jerries are not allowed to talk here. Go to Deutche thread :(
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:39
Here comes my fellow Jew!

Jerries are not allowed to talk here
Except Norddeutschen of course (me)
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:39
Aha, you mean you're from der Schweiz?
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:41
Here comes my fellow Jew!

Don't be so happy. The Jew moves on. Bye.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:41
The mind boggles. Bad jews.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:42
The Jew moves on. Bye.

C'est dommage.
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:44
Jerries are not allowed to talk here. Go to Deutche thread :(

Don't be so naughty, otherwise the Deutsche thread'll come and get you.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:45
Don't be so naughty, otherwise the Deutsche thread'll come and get you.
Russians came on them in 1945. So I'm fearless now.
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:46
Aha, you mean you're from der Schweiz?
Aus dem Königreich Preußen. Und Sie?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:46
Aus dem Königreich Preußen. Und Sie?
Fokin' Fritzes; JUDEN DEUTCHE RAUS
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:48
C'est dommage.

Mais pourquoi? Vouz avais votre M.Grigne.
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Отправлено: Yitzik от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:49
Yeah, rather a funny talk you've got here, dudes...
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:49
Aha, you mean you're from der Schweiz?
Aus dem Königreich Preußen. Und Sie?

I'm from the Free State of Bayern.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:49
Fokin' Fritzes;

Evidently my appeal to the admin took effect. Otherwise he should have killed you.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:52
Mais pourquoi?

Je lis volontiers ce que vous écrivez. :)

@ Alexey: :P
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:52
Mais pourquoi? Vouz avais votre M.Grigne.
Frenchtards shall be sent to the gaswagons.
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:54
I'm from the Free State of Bayern.
Hmm... That's why I hated you from the beginning... I KNEW. And I also supposed that was you who flooded the forum with guro (forget that nick). Am I right?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:55
You're adorable when you're trying to hate somebody.
Old people burning, old people burning / Put your hands up
Is it about you? :D
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:56
Is it about you?
That's from some pervert Canadian song
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:58
It's from some pervert Canadian song
They are not Canadians anymore. They got americanised by the fat bastards from the south. :(
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 21, 2010, 23:58
Hmm...

What's wrong with Bayern? I must be missing the point.  :donno:
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Апреля 22, 2010, 00:00
Hmm... That's why I hated you from the beginning... I KNEW. And I also supposed that was you who flooded the forum with guro (forget that nick). Am I right?

Don't get soo excited. It's dangerous for your age.  :no:
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Апреля 22, 2010, 00:02
What's wrong with Bayern? I must be missing the point.  :donno:

He is mad because his Preußen exists no more, but our Bayern lives on and prosper!
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Апреля 22, 2010, 00:02
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Old people burning, old people burning / Put your hands up
Is it about you? :D
From herE:

1:30
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk</a>

They are not Canadians anymore. They got americanised by the fat bastards from the south. :(
Check tihs out

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWQf13B8epw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWQf13B8epw</a>

What's wrong with Bayern? I must be missing the point.  :donno:
They are jerks.

He is mad because his Preußen exists no more, but our Bayern lives on and prosper!
We are like Jews now... Preußen exists everywhere we live!
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Апреля 22, 2010, 00:05
We are like Jews now...
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We are jews.
fxd.
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Апреля 22, 2010, 00:11
We are like Jews now... Preußen exists everywhere we live!

And I'm twice as much. I live everywhere and the Free State of Bayern exists.

Besides you've stolen the name. The real Prussians are extinct since a couple of centuries.
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Апреля 22, 2010, 00:17
Hitler war sydlænder, to'm bispel.

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The real Prussians are extinct since a couple of centuries.
Southerners' bullscite.
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Апреля 22, 2010, 08:55
And what's with that puzzle?A.Grin,I've looked your keyword up in my dictionaries(Collins',Longman) but there're no prompts to solve it.So I give up.Where are your daddy from?Or Juif... has just solved it and the answer is Preussen.
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Апреля 22, 2010, 21:27
No, Preußen was not my suggestion.

One of the Russian equivalents of the word janitor is "швейцар", so my guess was the place in question were Switzerland. But Grin' neither confirmed it, nor called it wrong.   :donno:
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Апреля 22, 2010, 22:02
I think you're right.приврaтник-швeйцaр,in fact,you've solved the puzzle.Look forward to next one
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Апреля 22, 2010, 22:05
I wonder why швeйцaр has such meaning in Russian.Are they believed to be just servants or how?Are there cognates in other languages?
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Апреля 22, 2010, 22:18
It seems I've read somewhere that doormen were called in Russia schweitzers because of their uniform: they looked like Swiss guard.
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Мая 28, 2010, 12:39
I would like to continue our heart-to-heart talk.

What American accent do you have?
http://www.gotoquiz.com/what_american_accent_do_you_have

Mine is:
(http://s40.radikal.ru/i088/1005/e1/4d2d8114298b.jpg)
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Мая 28, 2010, 14:10
According to the quiz, I speak like people in the American Northeast(NY, Jersey etc.) do. Although, I believe my pronunciation is more British than American.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Мая 28, 2010, 15:13
Well, I could pretend having a fancy Inland North accent (whatever that means),
but frankfully speaking, I've got the thickest Russian accent you'll ever hear.
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Отправлено: Сергій от Мая 28, 2010, 15:34
my result is Northeast.
actually I sound more like the Estuary variety of British :P
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Мая 28, 2010, 15:44
Kettle777, I wonder why you are learning Assyraic?Do you  know just classical Syraic or also one of modern?
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Мая 28, 2010, 16:43
I wonder why you are learning Assyrian?
Well, several years ago I received a proposal from one of our forum members (antbez) to visit a free lesson of this language here in Saint-Petersburg and I thought it would be stupid to turn it down.  So I just used the opportunity and didn't give up learning (although I am very far from mastering the language).
Now I think the standard Assyrian language is probably the easiest of all living Semitic languages to learn. (But the problem is that it's slowly dying out).
As for Syriac, it is certainly  a language of interest for me, although I do not devote much time to study it.
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Мая 28, 2010, 17:17
You think it's easy? As far as I know it has more developed verb system(lots of tenses) and other odds. Can you recommend sth to learn it. May be, some basic courses?
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Мая 28, 2010, 18:01
verb system(lots of tenses)
It's easier than in Spanish, I think. And Spanish is considered an easy language to learn.
And these tenses are similar to those of English.
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Отправлено: iopq от Мая 31, 2010, 09:22
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/856/accentk.png)

like, duh, totally
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Мая 31, 2010, 09:46
I wonder if there similar quizes referring to British dialects.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Мая 31, 2010, 09:49
I have almost the same accent as Alexey Grin has, but it is more Philadelphian than Northeastern :)
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Your accent is as Philadelphian as a cheesestisk!
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Отправлено: iopq от Мая 31, 2010, 10:14
Surely, you mean cheesesteak?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Мая 31, 2010, 10:20
I’m puzzled too, it is a quoting... :donno:
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Отправлено: autolyk от Мая 31, 2010, 11:19
Sorry, iopq, you were absolutely right.
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Отправлено: SkyWind от Июня 9, 2010, 10:32
According to the quiz I speak as I'm from Philadelphia.By the way what distinctive features(in phonetics,vocabulary) each of these dialects has? :???
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Отправлено: Versteher от Июня 10, 2010, 13:13
let's speak, though I am often loath to do it..

How was it allow'd to pass that Ye can that vile tongue?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июня 10, 2010, 13:21
Your Result: The Inland North
But I'm pro-British, so that test fails.
I like 'ow the 'h' is dropped,
and I 'ate when there's 'at instead of 'ot.
'Tis b'cause I sing 'Rule Britannia!'
And I never get bor't!
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Отправлено: Versteher от Июня 10, 2010, 13:24
What American accent do you have?
Your Result: The Northeast

Judging by how you talk you are probably from north Jersey, New York City, Connecticut or Rhode Island. Chances are, if you are from New York City (and not those other places) people would probably be able to tell if they actually heard you speak.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июня 10, 2010, 13:25
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XPHL4Q86t4" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XPHL4Q86t4</a>
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Отправлено: Versteher от Июня 10, 2010, 13:28
a henchman's way?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июня 10, 2010, 13:30
a henchman's way?
Is that so? ;D
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Отправлено: Versteher от Июня 10, 2010, 13:31
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what is so?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июня 10, 2010, 13:34
what is so?
Эт в значении "Вы серьёзно?"
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Отправлено: Versteher от Июня 10, 2010, 13:38
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am I?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июня 10, 2010, 13:40
am I?
Wha?
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Отправлено: Versteher от Июня 10, 2010, 13:42
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methinks, one should start some other topic..

Which English-writing author do Ye like the most?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июня 10, 2010, 13:45
Strange and typical as it may seem, but be it Dickens. And what 'bout you?
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Отправлено: Versteher от Июня 10, 2010, 13:51
it would be assum'd as a wonder, yet I have never read a letter of Herr Dickens...

For the nonse my favourite is Geoffrey Chaucer...

Those I have read besides were great, and I shoun't write them, having forgotten one.
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Июня 10, 2010, 21:55
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methinks, one should start some other topic..

You'd better do. Because this topic was meant for those, who speak English, and not some kind of a barbarial lingo.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июня 10, 2010, 21:59
"Off with your head!" rule can help, I s'ppose.
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Отправлено: Kinkajou от Июня 10, 2010, 22:22
For the nonse my favourite is Geoffrey Chaucer...

As far as I know, Chaucer wrote in so-called Middle English. Did you read his original works or ones adapted to modern English?
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Отправлено: Versteher от Июня 11, 2010, 11:33
As far as I know, Chaucer wrote in so-called Middle English. Did you read his original works or ones adapted to modern English? , quoth Kinkajou;

no, well, I dare say that the so-call'd Modern English is a far better tongue that the modern newspeak..
Answering the question, I will say that I read the text as it was written, and get get the sublime linguistic pleasure doing it.
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Отправлено: HackOnnerDib от Июня 11, 2010, 12:22
And my favourite is Frent Herbert with his "Dune".=)


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Why you are writing "'bout" instead of "about" and "s'ppose" instead of "suppose"?
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Отправлено: iopq от Июня 11, 2010, 12:55
And my favourite is Frank Herbert with his "Dune".=)
:yes:
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Отправлено: HackOnnerDib от Июня 11, 2010, 13:07
Sorry, I misprinted. :)

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How I can edit my message?=(
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июня 11, 2010, 13:15
Why you are writing "'bout" instead of "about" and "s'ppose" instead of "suppose"?
I often speak to Southerners and Scousers, so I tend to imitate their variants :D
Seriously: a Scouser talks like that (at least 2 Scousers whom I happen to know talk in a such manner)
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Отправлено: Alchemist от Июня 11, 2010, 16:37
My favourite author is John R. R. Tolkien :-)
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июня 11, 2010, 16:45
The writing "’bout" instead "about" is also a feature of the English poetry (dropping out of syllable to keep a metre).
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Отправлено: Kinkajou от Июня 11, 2010, 17:36
Answering the question, I will say that I read the text as it was written, and get get the sublime linguistic pleasure doing it.
That's great. You know, we studied his work "The Canterbury Tales" as a part of the course of the history of Eng. And it was very interesting to read it, so to say, like Englishmen did in XIII-XIV centuries. That's why I asked in what variant you had read it.

Well, as for the topic - can't say exactly who is the favourite, but now I'm reading Arthur C. Clarke and like him very very much. :)
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Отправлено: HackOnnerDib от Июня 11, 2010, 18:26
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The writing "’bout" instead "about" is also a feature of the English poetry (dropping out of syllable to keep a metre).
As "берег" and "брег" in Russian? Hm... is there any rules, or I can drop out any letter?
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I often speak to Southerners and Scousers, so I tend to imitate their variants :D
Speak or write? I think if somebody will say me something like that...i can't understand it=)
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июня 11, 2010, 19:36
As "берег" and "брег" in Russian?
It is alike.
is there any rules, or I can drop out any letter?
You cannot. There were not any rules but some habits. As a rule syntactic words were shortened: about = ’bout, against = ’gainst, over = o’er.
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Отправлено: HackOnnerDib от Июня 11, 2010, 20:05
Hm...thanks! Now I think that I can drop out letters that I don't say(that is not hearable). For example, in the word "about": "a" is not hearable because of big accent on the "ou".
Over - I hear as "ouer","oer", and I can drop out the "v".

So... It is possible to write "ga'den" instead of "garden"? "for'cast" insted of "forecast"?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июня 11, 2010, 20:20
Speak or write? I think if somebody will say me something like that...i can't understand it=)
I speak to them more than I write.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июня 11, 2010, 20:31
Now I think that I can drop out letters that I don't say(that is not hearable).
No you can’t drop out any letter you like. The shortening was according to the archaic/dialect pronunсiation.
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 11, 2010, 20:34
And how is o'er pronounced?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июня 11, 2010, 20:41
And how is o'er pronounced?
[o:] :)
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 11, 2010, 21:11
Thanks, autolyk. And how does the apostrophe affect the pronunciation of verb forms in -'d?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июня 11, 2010, 21:16
An apostrophe in "ed-forms" shows that the vowel "e" is not pronunciated.
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 11, 2010, 21:30
An apostrophe in "ed-forms" shows that the vowel "e" is not pronunciated.

But it's hardly ever pronounced anyway, isn't it? I don't see any difference between called and call'd.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июня 11, 2010, 21:39
The vowel "e" is pronounced after affricates and sibilants and also after t&d. An apostrophe indicates that it is not.
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Июня 11, 2010, 22:07
The vowel "e" is pronounced after affricates and sibilants and also after t&d. An apostrophe indicates that it is not.

So how would you pronounce t'd of d'd, e.g. in such words as abort'd or end'd?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июня 11, 2010, 22:17
So how would you pronounce t'd of d'd, e.g. in such words as abort'd or end'd?
I’m not a native speaker and I should pronounce these letter combinations by two ways according to a metre: [t]/[d] or [tid]/[did].
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 11, 2010, 23:38
The vowel "e" is pronounced after affricates and sibilants

In poetry scilicet? Thanks, I didn't know it.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июня 12, 2010, 08:46
Sorry Quase, it was the rules of the 600th scilicet. :-[
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Отправлено: Versteher от Июля 4, 2010, 12:17
alas! all masters are absent, whilst I'm present at the Forum.. Who is it possible to exist, when such a tragedie happeneth?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июля 4, 2010, 12:41
Your 'poetic and old-fashioned' English annoys people; would you be so kind and stop being an unfunny clown?
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Отправлено: O от Июля 4, 2010, 13:03
Your 'poetic and old-fashioned' English annoys people; would you be so kind and stop being an unfunny clown?

Personally, I like the English of Shakespear’s times… or it likes me so!
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Июля 4, 2010, 13:13
alas! all masters are absent, whilst I'm present at the Forum.. Who is it possible to exist, when such a tragedie happeneth?
Wha' kind've tragedy you're talking aboot?
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июля 4, 2010, 13:19
Personally, I like the English of Shakespear’s times… or it likes me so!
Have you ever read Shakespeare in original? (that is a version of his times) Compare Shakespeare's style to Versteher's 'stylish writings' and you're going to get a shock of pseudo-Shakespeare'ish Versteher's style.
It's a disgraceful act of trying to imitate the styles of the Great Ones for one should create his own.
Wha' kind've tragedy you're talking aboot?
That no one seems to appreciate his 'unique' writings? Take Wulfilla for example: his verses are much more original than this lame excuse for a copypaster.
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Отправлено: Versteher от Июля 4, 2010, 14:00
Alexey, I have warn'd thee.

I shall never more heed to trash thou makest.

Begone, untermensch.
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Июля 4, 2010, 14:49
I’m not a native speaker and I should pronounce these letter combinations by two ways according to a metre: [t]/[d] or [tid]/[did].
:-\
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Отправлено: iopq от Июля 4, 2010, 14:50
Alexey, I have warn'd thee.

I shall never more heed to trash thou makest.

Begone, untermensch.

How does one make trash? Well of course, by consuming contents of some sort of package and then instead of throwing that package into the garbage bin throwing it wherever. Now what I'm trying to understand is how Aleksey made trash. Please help me out here.

Thanks in advance,
iopq
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июля 4, 2010, 14:57
Now what I'm trying to understand is how Aleksey made trash. Please help me out here.
Because I pointed at Versteher's awful English. ;D
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Отправлено: Versteher от Июля 4, 2010, 14:57
The word "trash", leading its its meaning's origin from the name of carelessly thrown package, being at a street, meaning thus something
a) useless,
b) ugly,
might be will amplicable to many notions that are akin so to those packages.
I have demt Alexey be just commensurate to such word.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июля 4, 2010, 15:00
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Sorry, "but" certainly.
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Июля 4, 2010, 18:12
Personally, I like the English of Shakespear’s times… or it likes me so!
Have you ever read Shakespeare in original? (that is a version of his times) Compare Shakespeare's style to Versteher's 'stylish writings' and you're going to get a shock of pseudo-Shakespeare'ish Versteher's style.
It's a disgraceful act of trying to imitate the styles of the Great Ones for one should create his own.
Wha' kind've tragedy you're talking aboot?
That no one seems to appreciate his 'unique' writings? Take Wulfilla for example: his verses are much more original than this lame excuse for a copypaster.

Aleksey, this time you're absolutely right. And it would'v'been better for Versteher first to master an ordinary modern English instead of trying to clumsily imitate something he has just a vague notion of.

What kind of English is this:

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The word "trash", leading its its meaning's origin from the name of carelessly thrown package, being at a street, meaning thus something
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Отправлено: Versteher от Июля 4, 2010, 18:13
Juif Eternel, why clumsily?

How, the hell, do You know, whether vague or precise my knowledge be?
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Июля 4, 2010, 18:18
I quated you above: "leading its meaning's origin", "carelessly thrown package, being at a street".
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июля 4, 2010, 18:20
What kind of English is this:
Google translator is a good translator.
Juif Eternel, why clumsily?
I'm not Juif, but I can answer your question.
To write in the English of, for example, the 19th century, you have to have the proficiency of a native speaker, otherwise you're going to be in a bad situation. Everyone will make fun of you and your style...
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Июля 4, 2010, 18:24
You see Versteher, even a non-Juif can see it.    ;D
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июля 4, 2010, 18:26
Everyone will make fun of you and your style...
Maybe it is just a game :)
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июля 4, 2010, 18:37
Maybe it is just a game :)
I really doubt it. He can't even make normal English sentences.
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Отправлено: Хворост от Июля 4, 2010, 18:39
Ye Olde Butcherede Englishe (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe) thou hath doeth thee livest knoweth ye art hahaha
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Отправлено: O от Июля 4, 2010, 18:41
Have you ever read Shakespeare in original? (that is a version of his times)

Certainly.

Compare Shakespeare's style to Versteher's 'stylish writings' and you're going to get a shock of pseudo-Shakespeare'ish Versteher's style.
It's a disgraceful act of trying to imitate the styles of the Great Ones for one should create his own.

Let us wait and see. Perhaps Versteher will excel Sh.

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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июля 4, 2010, 18:54
Certainly.
You're a genius then. I'm happy for you.
Let us wait and see. Perhaps Versteher will excel Sh.
Right, and Dickens was a novice when he wrote his Pickwick Papers.
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Отправлено: olhol от Июля 4, 2010, 19:10
Well, Obama is a person, which does not make me feel any emotions. I would like to say that he's guided by someone above, a well-planned scenario :)
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Июля 4, 2010, 19:39
Have you ever read Shakespeare in original? (that is a version of his times)
Compare Shakespeare's style to Versteher's 'stylish writings' and you're going to get a shock of pseudo-Shakespeare'ish Versteher's style.
It's a disgraceful act of trying to imitate the styles of the Great Ones for one should create his own.

О, it seems I've never written this, or am I so forgetful already?    :o
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июля 4, 2010, 19:49
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Juif is my clone.
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Отправлено: Hellerick от Июля 4, 2010, 20:21
Google translator is a good translator.

Good translator is Google translator.

По-моему, звучит.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Июля 4, 2010, 20:24
По-моему, звучит.
:yes:
But it's a good translator anyway.
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Отправлено: Hellerick от Июля 4, 2010, 20:33
Well, Obama is a person, which does not make me feel any emotions.

Somehow I don't feel anything about him either.

Bush was funny at least.
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Отправлено: iopq от Июля 7, 2010, 14:58
The word "trash", leading its its meaning's origin from the name of carelessly thrown package, being at a street
OK, now I'm REALLY confused.  :D
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 20, 2010, 19:57
untermensch

I'm truly disillusioned with our V.  :down:
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Отправлено: Hébus от Августа 4, 2010, 02:08
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Somehow I don't feel anything about him either.
Bush was funny at least.

True that! True that!  :yes:
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Отправлено: Versteher от Августа 10, 2010, 12:20
I'm truly disillusioned with our V. , quoth Quasus


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Quase, I have begg'd my pardon for that.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 17, 2010, 01:27
Do you mix up 'conscious' and 'conscience' ? Any troubles with pronunciation?
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Отправлено: Эльмари от Августа 18, 2010, 21:14
Hmm, interesting question! Words are, really, very similar in pronunciation, but when we say "conscience", we pronouce letter "n", whereas in the word "conscious" there's no letter "n"  ::)
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Отправлено: Versteher от Августа 20, 2010, 15:08
What joke Ye like the most, Ye would narrate here to us all?
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Отправлено: Juif Eternel от Августа 20, 2010, 22:36
Ai laik most over the river Kwai, laik ai.
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Отправлено: Versteher от Августа 26, 2010, 13:46
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hm, 'tis really strange: when V. hath a rare urge to speak English in the way Ye might accept it, no one seems to support this urge.
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Отправлено: Xico от Августа 26, 2010, 13:51
What joke Ye like the most, Ye would narrate here to us all?

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There once was an old man of Esser,
Whose knowledge grew lesser and lesser,
It at last grew so small
He knew nothing at all
And now he's a college professor.
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Отправлено: Versteher от Августа 26, 2010, 14:00
I thank You, Xico:

a cat won't leave a cat in lurch, will he?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Августа 26, 2010, 15:16
On the wise men of Gotham
(cast with Xico’s limerick)
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Tell me no more of Gotham Fools,
Or of their eels in little pools,
Which they were told were drowning;
Nor of their carts drawn up on high
When King John’s men were standing by,
To keep a wood from browning.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 26, 2010, 15:22
To keep a wood from browning.
Didn't get it.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Августа 26, 2010, 15:28
"Browning" means "roasting" in this case.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 26, 2010, 15:35
I mean the whole sense, which is usually at the end.
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Отправлено: huaxia от Августа 26, 2010, 15:53
I had no idea there were different American accents. Some British people claim that there is no any accent in the English language. But I don't think so. Btw, they also say 'Russian accent sounds sexy'... Ha-ha.
My major is English, but we're learning British English, which sounds very weird to me. I think I mostly sound American than English.

Poor English... I used to love this language so much. I've been been normally studying it for more than five years, actually since the first grade in school, but even now I can't say my English is perfect.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Августа 26, 2010, 16:00
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I mean the whole sense, which is usually at the end.
It seems to me there is no sense like in other nonsense verse.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 26, 2010, 16:05
Well, the first verse is funny, but second one? Is it complete nonsense?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Августа 26, 2010, 16:14
Well, the first verse is funny, but second one?
Well, let’s suppose I gave an improper example of the British humour.
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Отправлено: Aleksey от Сентября 4, 2010, 13:25
Poor English...
Personification of English? Rather weird...Though, admittedly, the newspeak or Runglish, as it may be called, is becoming more noticeable than it was, let's say, two years ago.
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июня 16, 2011, 20:54
I've noticed that since the overlapping topics dedicated to either prosaic or poetic English have been created this one was forgot.
So, I'd love to revive it as the lack of interesting English-language forums or English-speaking people you would be keen on conversing with is a common problem of the vast majority of English learners. No doubt, it depends on the place, where this learner lives, but actually here the Russian ones were implied.

P.S. all the corrections are highly appreciated
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Июня 16, 2011, 21:27
P.S. all the corrections are highly appreciated
You could fix the syntax a bit in the first place, I believe. I mean, such a composition of the sentences makes them somehow difficult to comprehend.
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июня 16, 2011, 21:39
P.S. all the corrections are highly appreciated
You could fix the syntax a bit in the first place, I believe. I mean, such a composition of the sentences makes them somehow difficult to comprehend.
Yep, I took notice of its complexity as soon as I wrote that sentence but I didn't know how to rewrite it. That's why I decided to leave the things as they were.
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Июня 16, 2011, 21:59
Yep, I took notice of its complexity as soon as I wrote that sentence but I didn't know how to rewrite it. That's why I decided to leave the things as they were.
A predicate shouldn't be in the very end of a long sentence, for instance. Well, at least if you don't want it to be a mind-exploding weapon.  :green:
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I've noticed that since the overlapping topics dedicated to either prosaic or poetic English have been created this one was forgot.
My variant (maybe not the best one, but still):
"As I noticed, this topic was forgotten since lots of overlapping topics were created here that were dedicated to either prosaic or poetic English."
(P.S.: fixd. Damned copypaste)
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Отправлено: iopq от Июня 16, 2011, 22:02
I've noticed that since the overlapping topics dedicated to either prosaic or poetic English have been created, this one was forgotten.
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Июня 16, 2011, 22:07
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P.S.: Necessary corrections of my texts are also welcome, of course.
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 16, 2011, 22:18
What do you think of hiding corrections in spoilers? Errors are all right if we have nothing else to discuss, but if another topic ever arises it may die under tons of grammar. :)

No need to say any corrections are welcome and appreciated. ;)
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Июня 16, 2011, 22:21
What do you think of hiding corrections in spoilers? Errors are all right if we have nothing else to discuss, but if another topic ever arises it may die under tons of grammar. :)
Agreed.
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июня 16, 2011, 22:24
you don't want it to be a mind-exploding weapon.  :green:
Like all Turks I am :)

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Отправлено: Искандер от Июня 16, 2011, 22:26
but I didn't know how
have been not knowing ?
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Июня 16, 2011, 22:38
but I didn't know how
have been not knowing ?
I would ask a native speaker here...
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июня 16, 2011, 22:39
but I didn't know how
had been not knowing ?

Although discussing one's mistakes and grammar is useful, it's not such an exciting topic to talk about.
So, just to relax somehow, have you already decided what you are going to do in the summer.
I mean if you have made up your mind to go somewhere you have been dreamt about or such sort of things. Or you would probably stay at home and deal with everyday activities.

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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Июня 16, 2011, 22:42
it's nit such an exciting topic to talk about.
It depends.  ;D And, well, it's always useful anyway.
Цитировать
have you already decided what you are going to do in the summer.
Work. :)
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 16, 2011, 22:45
have you already decided what you are going to do in the summer.

I’m likely to work all summer long. Before the middle of July my boss and I have to prepare a book for publication, and then I’ll write my belated thesis. :( I hope I’ll be able to spend a while in the summer resort.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июня 16, 2011, 23:39
relax somehow, have you already decided what you are going to do in the summer.
ThYs question do not consent me to relax.

They have decided already I to work at factory without remuneration and to drink a lot of vodka.
& you?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июня 16, 2011, 23:41
everybody slaves I see.
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 16, 2011, 23:50
everybody slaves I see.

In fact I manage to flood on LF even thought I’m facing the deadline with my book in just a month. So mine is at any rate an endurable kind of slavery. :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июня 16, 2011, 23:54
slavery.
slaving...
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Июня 16, 2011, 23:55
everybody slaves I see.

In fact I manage to flood on LF even thought I’m facing the deadline with my book in just a month. So mine is at any rate an endurable kind of slavery. :)
Sometimes I wish we were Japanese...
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 16, 2011, 23:56
slavery.
slaving...
shaving :P (Never mind, just talking nonsense.)
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 16, 2011, 23:57
Sometimes I wish we were Japanese...

I never do. They seem nearly space aliens to me. :) But why do you wish it?
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Июня 16, 2011, 23:59
I never do. They seem nearly space aliens to me. :) But why do you wish it?
Because I personally feel a lack of self-discipline.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Июня 17, 2011, 00:34
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then I’ll write my belated thesis.
a new word for me  ::)
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 17, 2011, 00:36
then I’ll write my belated thesis.
a new word for me  ::)

For me too. First I thought of ‘retarded’ but it’s not exactly what I meant. :green:
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июня 17, 2011, 00:38
As for me, I'm doing a course in German this montn (almost everyday in the mornings)
Then I'm to spend a month in Azerbaijan, I should visit my grandparents and all the friends living there.
Then I will be preparing for school in August.
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 17, 2011, 00:41
As for me, I'm doing a course in German this montn (almost everyday in the mornings)

On your own?
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июня 17, 2011, 00:52
In Goethe-Institut.
I loved it very much :) The course is entirely in German so finally I could get used to the way it sounds. It's the first time in these 5 years I've been learning German when I've got the chance to express all my feelings and ideas in German. That's amazing :)
What is your book about?
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 17, 2011, 00:59
Is this a correspondence course?

The book… Maths, you know. Attractors for motion equations of viscoelastic media. :) They say each formula included in a book halves the amount of potential readers; it turns out no one will read ours. ;D
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июня 17, 2011, 01:21
Nope, I've got to get up early in order commute there via underground.

Maths... Even though I'm not so bad at it, as compared to the rest of the class, I couldn't understand a word of the post you've written, except for the last sentence, no doubt. ;)
I mean I've no idea what "viscoelastic media" is. :)
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 17, 2011, 01:27
Nope, I've got to get up early in order commute there via underground.

It turns out you’re in Germany? Cool! :yes:

I mean I've no idea what "viscoelastic media" is. :)

Fluids that are viscous and elastic at once. :D They come up not very often in everyday life, but provide mathematicians with lots of complicated equations.
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Июня 17, 2011, 01:31
Fluids that are viscous and elastic at once. :D
Sounds like just a more realistic model. If I remember correctly, such models are frequently used in technological calculations.
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июня 17, 2011, 01:46
Actually, it's in the hub of St. Petersburg, which is full of strangers, just like Germany :) Whereas I live quite far from it.

The problem is that I was familiar with all the words in the post but couldn't take an idea in a whole in.
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июня 17, 2011, 02:01
I am about to fall asleep, so "Good Night!"
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 17, 2011, 02:07
Fluids that are viscous and elastic at once. :D
Sounds like just a more realistic model. If I remember correctly, such models are frequently used in technological calculations.

If you wonder, I can go into details a bit. The motion of fluids is described by some mechanical equations and one extra equation known as the constitutive law. This law can be deduced from various reasons and ‘contains’ specific properties of a fluid. Lots of fluids obey so called Newton’s constitutive law, which leads to Navier–Stokes equations: these are viscous fluids. Some other fluids (e. g. certain polymer solutions) display essentially different behaviour: under different conditions they may exhibit properties of a fluid and of a solid body. These media require other constitutive laws that are generally more complicated than Newton’s one.

This is the stuff we usually write in introductions to the articles. :) We are not interested in physics and mostly deal with existence theorems. (The usefulness of existence results can be argued. ;D Some people say they already know that water flows.) I came across the only ‘live’ example of a non-Newtonian fluid (flour suspension, if I’m not mistaken) in the Big Bang Theory. ;D
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 17, 2011, 02:09
Actually, it's in the hub of St. Petersburg, which is full of strangers, just like Germany :) Whereas I live quite far from it

The Goethe Institute seems to have spread itself considerably. :) I thought it was German.

I am about to fall asleep, so "Good Night!"

Good night then! Thanks for reviving the topic! :)
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Июня 17, 2011, 02:15
Actually any liquid can behave as an elastic body. It's just a matter of specific conditions when such behaviour cannot be ignored already.
e. g. certain polymer solutions
Also glass melts, for instance.
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 17, 2011, 02:18
Actually any liquid can behave as an elastic body.

I believe you are right. For example, the Newtonian law is applicable only in the case of moderate velocities.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июня 17, 2011, 05:40
What d you mean "elastic body".
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Июня 17, 2011, 08:25
What d you mean "elastic body".
perfectly elastic body (http://lingvo.yandex.ru/perfectly%20elastic%20body/%D1%81%20%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE/LingvoScience/)
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 17, 2011, 10:32
What d you mean "elastic body".

It restitutes its previous form after a deformation.
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Отправлено: Poirot от Июня 17, 2011, 10:54
As for me, I'm doing a course in German this montn
In this case I recommend visiting a special section at LF where people speak German. By the way Ellidi is very active there.
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 17, 2011, 11:10
It restitutes its previous form after a deformation.

restitutes ⇒ restores
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Июня 17, 2011, 13:38
I see, you’ve been talking a bit about liquids here. How about non-Newtonian ones? Did you try to make some by putting starch and water together (same as of quicksand type)? Unfortunately, I don’t remember accurate proportion.

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Please, correct me. I feel unsure.
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Июня 17, 2011, 13:41
I see, you’ve been talking a bit about liquids here. How about non-Newtonian ones? Did you try to make some by putting starch and water together?

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Please, correct me. I feel unsure.
That again...  :) All real liquids are non-Newtonian, that's just a matter of when they begin to manifest elactic properties.
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Июня 17, 2011, 13:49
Well, you could have to understand I mean quite non-Newtonian. :negozhe:

Also, I updated that msg.

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Seeing these English words I feel a bit queer. ;D And it’s not because of possible misusing of the language.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июня 17, 2011, 14:02
If water can restitute some form after I broke the glass :???
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 17, 2011, 15:35
If water can restitute some form after I broke the glass :???

Water does not exhibit elastic properties under normal conditions. It’s just viscous.
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Июня 17, 2011, 15:51
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 17, 2011, 21:45
Fluid mechanics is a bore, I daresay. :)
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Июня 17, 2011, 22:44
If so, let’s do [speak] on another topic!

But I’d want to be corrected. I couldn’t believe all my sentences right!
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 17, 2011, 22:50
Water is off until Sunday morning.
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Отправлено: iopq от Июня 18, 2011, 02:44
If so, let’s change the topic!

But, I’d want to be corrected. If you told me all of my sentences were correct, I wouldn't believe you.
Well, it's hard to correct something you find stylistically displeasing without changing the text completely.
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июня 18, 2011, 03:10
It is sunny again in St. Petersburg :) I hope it will get just a bit hotter.

P.S. expect being condemned by all the other users (from SP)

P.P.S. Quasus, what is the weather like in your city?
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 18, 2011, 03:31
It is sunny again in St. Petersburg

At 3 a.m.? :o

Quasus, what is the weather like in your city?

I’d say it’s a bit too hot at midday, but quite tolerable. Last summer was so terrible that any weather but for the anomalous heat is welcome. ;D I hate heat, 20–22°C all summer long would be great.  It’s cloudy at times, but it doesn’t rain. BTW I live in Voronezh.

My wife and I visited St. Petersburg in summer two years ago. We were delighted by the cool weather (when we were back, it was naturally hell and Israel), yet the indigenes longed for heat. ;D
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Отправлено: Квас от Июня 18, 2011, 03:33
Well, it’s kind of late, I’d better go to bed. :) Tomorrow we are going to escape from this waterless desert.
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Отправлено: Hellerick от Июня 18, 2011, 03:37
Divnogorsk is melting down. Few susvivors switched to nocturnalism.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июня 29, 2011, 11:09
melting down :??? Zaliwajem rasswietom?
So I have a miracleous outsight in Noginsk too. My 7th floor window is really pictorescue. Esp during dust.
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Отправлено: subway_man от Июля 20, 2011, 17:53
I don't mean to offend, but what's the point in practicing your English with non-natives? It won't do you any good.
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 21, 2011, 00:03
It won't do you any good.

I don’t agree at all.
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Отправлено: svobodný от Июля 21, 2011, 00:16
So1 I have a miracleous outsight2 in Noginsk too. My 7th floor window is really pictorescue*. Esp during dust**.
1 не стоит начинать предложение с so, когда у вас нет обьяснения или причины перед этим so
2 поясните, пожалуйста
*pictoresque
**elaborate, please.
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Отправлено: svobodný от Июля 21, 2011, 00:22
(when we were back, it was naturally hell and Israel)
?
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Отправлено: svobodný от Июля 21, 2011, 00:22
P.S. expect being condemned by all the other users (from SP)
?
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Отправлено: Уттыԓьын от Июля 21, 2011, 00:31
So1 I have a miracleous outsight2 in Noginsk too. My 7th floor window is really pictorescue*. Esp during dust**.
1 не стоит начинать предложение с so, когда у вас нет обьяснения или причины перед этим so
2 поясните, пожалуйста
*pictoresque
**elaborate, please.
miracleous outsight, prob. = wonderful view
pictorescue = picturesque (ref. to the view from the window)
during dust, prob. = at dusk

hell and Israel, poss. = hell on earth
expect being condemned by all the other users = expect to be condemned by (or, condemnation from) all the other users

indigenes = natives or locals
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 21, 2011, 00:38
Hell and Israel is a word-for-word translation of a Russian saying, I did it just for lulz. :) I think that ‘hell on earth’ perfectly conveys the meaning.

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Отправлено: svobodný от Июля 21, 2011, 00:43
pictorescue = picturesque (ref. to the view from the window)
do'oh! :(
miracleous outsight, prob. = wonderful view
thanks
expect being condemned by all the other users = expect to be condemned by (or, condemnation from) all the other users
but why the?
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Отправлено: rudaru от Июля 21, 2011, 00:46
What are you doing at the moment?
Are you really want it?
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 00:50
About articles. Once I asked my english-speaking friends when they use articles and how they choose from a and the. And they said they don't mind and do it simply for good sounds...
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 00:52
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 21, 2011, 00:55
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)

You wrote in English, so it was not offtopic. See the thread title. :)

And they said they don't mind and do it simply for good sounds...

I do the same in Russian. (I don’t mean articles.) Yet foreigners think there’s a lot of things to learn. ;D
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 01:00
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)

You wrote in English, so it was not offtopic. See the thread title. :)

Thank you!
Can I say in topic with meaning "в тему"? Is it right?
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 01:03
And they said they don't mind and do it simply for good sounds...

I do the same in Russian. (I don’t mean articles.) Yet foreigners think there’s a lot of things to learn. ;D

I forget about articles very often. Even I try to learn word with articles in sentences... but english is not german  :(
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Отправлено: Konay от Июля 21, 2011, 01:04
what's up people?!
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Отправлено: Konay от Июля 21, 2011, 01:05
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)

You wrote in English, so it was not offtopic. See the thread title. :)

Thank you!
Can I say in topic with meaning "в тему"? Is it right?

Sorry you can't :(
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 21, 2011, 01:06
Can I say in topic with meaning "в тему"? Is it right?

Actually I doubt that it’s an adequate translation… Pertinently must sound bookish. :-\ Uhm, I don’t know.
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 21, 2011, 01:06
what's up people?!

The sky is up! :)
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Отправлено: Konay от Июля 21, 2011, 01:07
Can I say in topic with meaning "в тему"? Is it right?

Actually I doubt that it’s an adequate translation… Pertinently must sound bookish. :-\ Uhm, I don’t know.

Smth. like "Sorry if I'm not quite following the topic of the conversation, but I wanna say..."  :???
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 01:07
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)

You wrote in English, so it was not offtopic. See the thread title. :)
Thank you!
Can I say in topic with meaning "в тему"? Is it right?

Sorry you can't :(

Only offtopic? Is не в тему tracing from english offtopic?
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Отправлено: Konay от Июля 21, 2011, 01:08
what's up people?!

The sky is up! :)

The sky is up in the sky ;)
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 01:12
I offer the new theme. What do you do with english pretexts? They are real nightmare for me.
One thing is pretexts in german with it's system of cases, another side is english with very mess system.  :uzhos:
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 21, 2011, 01:16
What do you do with english pretexts?

Uhm. Actually I don’t think I do anything with pretexts (http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/pretext). What do you do with them?
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 01:18
Uhm. Actually I don’t think I do anything with pretexts (http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/pretext). What do you do with them?

Sorry not pretexts, but prepositions and postpositions...
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 21, 2011, 01:29
Uhm. Actually I don’t think I do anything with pretexts. What do you do with them?
Sorry not pretexts, but prepositions and postpositions...

What’s wrong with prepositions?

As for phrasal verbs, I think I tend to use their more literary single word counterparts. They stick better in the memory. :donno:
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Отправлено: Уттыԓьын от Июля 21, 2011, 01:30
Can I say in topic with meaning "в тему"? Is it right?
The opposite of ‘off-topic’ is ‘on-topic’.
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Отправлено: Уттыԓьын от Июля 21, 2011, 01:37
expect being condemned by all the other users = expect to be condemned by (or, condemnation from) all the other users
but why the?
Because there is a specific group of users in mind, namely the users of this forum.
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 01:39
Uhm. Actually I don’t think I do anything with pretexts. What do you do with them?
Sorry not pretexts, but prepositions and postpositions...

What’s wrong with prepositions?

As for phrasal verbs, I think I tend to use their more literary single word counterparts. They stick better in the memory. :donno:

For example how to say right? I do it to fun or I do it for fun?
Of course for fun looks better, but why?

Another example, I give it to you or I give it for you? What is more correctly?
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Отправлено: Уттыԓьын от Июля 21, 2011, 01:46
how to say right? : ‘what’s the right way to say it?’

for fun : ‘for’ = ‘for the sake of’
to you : ‘to’ = indirect object

What is more correctly? : ‘which is correct?’
correct : adj.
correctly : adv.
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 21, 2011, 01:49
For example how to say right? I do it to fun or I do it for fun?
Of course for fun looks better, but why?

Perhaps because you’ve seen or heard it a thousand times. :) I think nothing but constant practice helps to memorise prepositions used with one or another adjective or verb.

Another example, I give it to you or I give it for you? What is more correctly?

Roughly, to corresponds to Russian dative case, while for is similar to для. Consequently, to you.

When learning Latin, I came to the conclusion that cases are easier to master than prepositions: the syntax of cases seems to me more regular. Nothing doing! French prepositions appear even more confusing. :)
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 21, 2011, 01:53
for fun : ‘for’ = ‘for the sake of’

Unlike zum Spass in German.
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 02:00
Thanks.
When learning Latin, I came to the conclusion that cases are easier to master than prepositions: the syntax of cases seems to me more regular. Nothing doing! French prepositions appear even more confusing. :)

The same thing! Changing by cases in German or Latin (I learned it long time ago) is more easy and clearer for me than prepositions system in English and French. I think that it is so, because our first language is Russian with cases system. Don't you think so?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июля 21, 2011, 09:37
Õõõõ! It's so boring.... make some fun for me I bag.
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Отправлено: iopq от Июля 21, 2011, 10:59
I don't mean to offend, but what's the point in practicing your English with non-natives? It won't do you any good.
>implying I'm not a native
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Отправлено: iopq от Июля 21, 2011, 11:00
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)
"on topic" is correct
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Отправлено: iopq от Июля 21, 2011, 11:02
Uhm. Actually I don’t think I do anything with pretexts (http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/pretext). What do you do with them?

Sorry not pretexts, but prepositions and postpositions...
Just memorize them, there is no other way

How else would you know that it's "on topic" and not "in topic"?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июля 21, 2011, 11:32
yep, he's not native. We trust that...
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Июля 21, 2011, 11:37
I bag.
You bag?
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 13:07
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)
"on topic" is correct

Why? Is it tradition or what?
Can I say "offtopic"?
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Отправлено: iopq от Июля 21, 2011, 14:19
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)
"on topic" is correct

Why? Is it tradition or what?
Can I say "offtopic"?
why do you say в тему in Russian? Is it tradition or what?

Yes, you can say off topic
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 14:22
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)
"on topic" is correct

Why? Is it tradition or what?
Can I say "offtopic"?
why do you say в тему in Russian? Is it tradition or what?

Yes, you can say off topic

I meaned why on topic, but not in topic?
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июля 21, 2011, 14:25
Can we say that the vast majority of posts on this forum are said off topic? or "are offtop" would sound better?
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июля 21, 2011, 14:27
Aussie, your last question makes no sense. It's just the way English language lives, that's it.
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 14:31
Aussie, your last question makes no sense. It's just the way English language lives, that's it.

No way! Must be any roles.
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Отправлено: iopq от Июля 21, 2011, 14:39
p.s. Sorry, if I did it not in topic =)
"on topic" is correct

Why? Is it tradition or what?
Can I say "offtopic"?
why do you say в тему in Russian? Is it tradition or what?

Yes, you can say off topic

I meanted why is it on topic, but not in topic?
Answer why it is so in Russian, and that will be my answer for English.
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Отправлено: iopq от Июля 21, 2011, 14:40
Aussie, your last question makes no sense. It's just the way English language lives, that's it.

No way! Must be any roles.
Verstehe nicht
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 14:47
iopq, Thanks for correction!

In Russian we can say в тему рассказа, разговора и etc and we have no any chose, except "в тему". But in English it can be in topic and on topic. And you said that second is right form. So I asked why. Why not in?  :green:
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Отправлено: Уттыԓьын от Июля 21, 2011, 14:54
in English it can be in topic and on topic.
No, it can only be on-topic.

Why not in?
Because on is the opposite of off.
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 14:56
Ok! I understand. Eurica! It's because contradistinction of on/off: on to :wall:pic vs off topic.
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Отправлено: Aussie от Июля 21, 2011, 14:59
in English it can be in topic and on topic.
No, it can only be on-topic.

Why not in?
Because on is the opposite of off.

=)
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Июля 21, 2011, 15:00
I bag.
You bag?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baggot    :what:
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 21, 2011, 15:18
"are offtop" would sound better?

I always thought ‘оффтоп’ is a Russian neologism, the -ic being considered as a diminutive suffix.
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июля 21, 2011, 15:27
what's up people?!

The sky is up! :)

The sky is up in the sky ;)
"Sky is over." Serj Tankian

My ***king phone makes me crazy :(
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Отправлено: LOSTaz от Июля 21, 2011, 15:33
Quasus, you are right. "off-topic" sounds more English...
Moreover I should not have used "are blah-blah" there. No doubt, "majority" is singular :(
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июля 21, 2011, 17:01
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baggot    :what:

**ck!
**it!
that's awesome!
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июля 21, 2011, 18:01
I bag.
You bag?
Perhaps Iskander likes to have been bagging. :) 
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июля 21, 2011, 18:47
Perhaps Iskander likes to have been bagging. :)
Which kind of bagging do you mean?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июля 21, 2011, 18:51
Which kind of bagging do you mean?
I meant blue bagging. 
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 21, 2011, 19:22
I liked the word cheesy (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheesy) from the Urban Dictionary a while ago.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июля 21, 2011, 20:18
I meant blue bagging.
Oh, that bagging... That all is totally brash calumnies I swear.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июля 21, 2011, 20:20
Just for it being clear, whatever any baggings of mine are shitty slime.

I mean... Of somewhom... Yep.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июля 21, 2011, 20:23
I liked the word cheesy from the Urban Dictionary a while ago.
Hm... murky. Is it good recomendation or not — it's cheesy — ?
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Июля 21, 2011, 20:34
As for phrasal verbs, I think I tend to use their more literary single word counterparts.
So do I. It is much more easier for  me to memorise procrastinate - pro + cras (lat. in the future) than put off. I had been acquainted with the meaning of procrastinate for at least one year before I embarked on avidly learning phrasal verbs due to their indispensability for fluency in English (including put off).
They stick better in the memory. :donno:
This is mine opinion too.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Июля 21, 2011, 20:49
So1 I have a miracleous outsight2 in Noginsk too. My 7th floor window is really pictorescue*. Esp during dust**.
2 поясните, пожалуйста
outlook, structurally reminiscent of German Ausblick and Aussicht.
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Отправлено: svobodný от Июля 21, 2011, 20:54
Ellidi, no one talks like that.. It's too old-fashioned. Sorry.
Thanks for pointing out at the mistakes, that were corrected by Уттыԓьын
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июля 21, 2011, 21:03
1 не стоит начинать предложение с so, когда у вас нет обьяснения или причины перед этим so
Не думаю.

*pictoresque
Don't care. At all.

**elaborate, please.
Что вочу то и хорочу.

Вообще я был угашенный, судя по тексту.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Июля 21, 2011, 21:05
In this case I recommend visiting a special section at LF where people speak German. By the way Ellidi is very active there.
Versteher is no less prolific in that thread.
Ellidi, no one talks like that.. It's too old-fashioned.
This is not enough to discourage me. I am fond of obsolescent things. Besides, I am elate at the fact that one used to speak like that and this I consider sufficient.
Thanks for pointing out at the mistakes, that were corrected by Уттыԓьын
At first I perceived the blunder and only then did I espy the correction which followed. Therefore I rescinded my penultimate message dealing with the misspelling.
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Отправлено: svobodný от Июля 21, 2011, 22:46
Versteher is no less prolific in that thread.
Ok, to make it clear: no one talks or writes like that in real life of a simple Englishman.
If you write like that you're going to look like a snob or an illiterate c*nt.
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Отправлено: svobodný от Июля 21, 2011, 22:50
At first I perceived the blunder and only then did I espy the correction which followed. Therefore I rescinded my penultimate message dealing with the misspelling.
I think once you go to England you're going to get a fist in the face for your mockery of the English language.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июля 21, 2011, 22:54
If you write like that you're going to look like a snob or an illiterate c*nt.
Kitty, you are Kitty!
Obviously.

I think once you go to England you're going to get a fist in the face for your mocking of the English language.
And then I sue them till death!
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Отправлено: svobodný от Июля 21, 2011, 22:57
Kitty, you are Kitty!
Obviously.
?
And then I sue them till death!
I really doubt it, because you're going to be an illegal immigrant.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Июля 21, 2011, 23:02
Kitty, you are Kitty!
Obviously.
And so?
And then I sue them till death!
I really doubt it, because you're going to be an illegal immigrant.
It seems to me he’s not a lawyer but a Mukhosransk high school leaver)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июля 22, 2011, 00:11
I really doubt it, because you're going to be an illegal immigrant.
Да вай бы ай ду соу?

It seems to me he’s not a lawyer but a Mukhosransk high school leaver)
If that crap is about my P, I sue your P. Till death.
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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 22, 2011, 01:15
I liked the word cheesy from the Urban Dictionary a while ago.
Hm... murky. Is it good recomendation or not — it's cheesy — ?

Obviously it is not.
Цитировать
Cheesiness is subjective. What seems cheesy to me, may be a legitimate and attractive hairstyle to you.

patztalom :E:

It’s a pity ‘cheesiness’ can’t be expressed by a single Russian word. (Or at least I can’t think of one.) Yet Anglo-Saxons don’t have a word for poshlust’! :P

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Отправлено: Квас от Июля 22, 2011, 01:16
I embarked on avidly learning phrasal verbs due to their indispensability for fluency in English

How did you do that? Did you have any special methods?
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Отправлено: ginkgo от Июля 22, 2011, 03:26
In this case I recommend visiting a special section at LF where people speak German. By the way Ellidi is very active there.
Versteher is no less prolific in that thread.
Versteher writes in his own "German", that isn't actually the language spoken (or written) by the German-speaking world.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Июля 22, 2011, 10:40
I think once you go to England
Oh yes, at the Greek kalends.  :eat: (I do not intend to travel outside my continent, which is Eurasia)
How did you do that? Did you have any special methods?
This was faced up to in one English course.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Июля 22, 2011, 10:54
In this case I recommend visiting a special section at LF where people speak German. By the way Ellidi is very active there.
Versteher is no less prolific in that thread.
Versteher writes in his own "German", that isn't actually the language spoken (or written) by the German-speaking world.
And Ellidi? His German and English looks like mocking.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Июля 22, 2011, 10:59
And Ellidi? His German and English looks like mocking.
My German? Mocking?  :o If you have discovered any errors, please lay them bare. Or expound wherein the mocking character consists.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Июля 22, 2011, 11:00
Just a guess ;)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июля 22, 2011, 12:59
It’s a pity ‘cheesiness’ can’t be expressed by a single Russian word.
But single russian hiperonym may be.... Ex.g. "bad" or "good"...
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Отправлено: svobodný от Июля 22, 2011, 13:11
My German? Mocking?  :o If you have discovered any errors, please lay them bare. Or expound wherein the mocking character consists.
Ignorance is a bliss.
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 1, 2011, 07:34
It’s a pity ‘cheesiness’ can’t be expressed by a single Russian word. (Or at least I can’t think of one.) Yet Anglo-Saxons don’t have a word for poshlust’! :P
дешевый
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 1, 2011, 10:15
Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Августа 1, 2011, 11:25
Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?
I'm not sure is it boring or not, although I clearly feel a lack of expressive means pretty frequently.  :(
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 1, 2011, 11:27
I'm not sure is it boring or not, although I clearly feel a lack of expressive means pretty frequently.  :(
"английский — бесчуственный!" (с)
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Отправлено: autolyk от Августа 1, 2011, 11:30
I'm not sure is it boring or not, although I clearly feel a lack of expressive means pretty frequently.  :(
Read more Versteher’s postings. :)
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Августа 1, 2011, 11:32
"английский — бесчуственный!" (с)
Actually English looks pretty usual in part of expressive means. It's rather Russian that is oversaturated with them (on different levels, from morthology and vocabulary to syntax and phonetics).
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 1, 2011, 11:44
It's rather Russian that is oversaturated with them (on different levels, from morthology and vocabulary to syntax and phonetics).
:o
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 1, 2011, 12:53
Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?
count me in
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Отправлено: Aussie от Августа 1, 2011, 14:01
English forever!!!
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 1, 2011, 20:15
Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?
I'm not sure is it boring or not, although I clearly feel a lack of expressive means pretty frequently.  :(

I feel like English is both popular and boring for one same reason. I guess simple is the new boring :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 1, 2011, 21:12
English is totally NOT boring. American one sometimes is. And normal QL can be so romantic.  Nyaaaa!
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 1, 2011, 21:50
Almost every educated person can speak some English. And it therefore gets so much less romantic than it used to be...
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 1, 2011, 21:51
It’s a pity ‘cheesiness’ can’t be expressed by a single Russian word. (Or at least I can’t think of one.) Yet Anglo-Saxons don’t have a word for poshlust’! :P
дешевый

Well, I’m not sure. Sometimes it fits, but if I understand the English word right, it rather conveys the idea that the motives are too much prominent when they shouldn’t be. Anyway, I can be mistaken, since I’ve only come across the word in the dictionary entry. :)

Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?

Trolling? ;) Come on…
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Отправлено: ginkgo от Августа 1, 2011, 21:59
Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?

Trolling? ;)
A boring kind of trolling, I'd say  ;)
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 1, 2011, 22:01
Who else thinks that English is kind of boring?
Trolling? ;) Come on…

"Creek douchee moe yay!" ;)
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 1, 2011, 22:02
I don't like English phonetics, it's really difficult.
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 1, 2011, 22:06
Plus, I still LOVE English ;)
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 1, 2011, 22:08
I don't like English phonetics, it's really difficult.

It definitely is. Although speaking a language with an accent is still speaking it :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 1, 2011, 22:12
Almost every educated person can speak some English. And it therefore gets so much less romantic than it used to be...
Indeed have not thou encountered all those enchanted words with flavour of lang syne? Not every of those educated persons can hark that romantic language.
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 1, 2011, 22:14
Almost every educated person can speak some English. And it therefore gets so much less romantic than it used to be...
Indeed have not thou encountered all those enchanted words with flavour of lang syne? Not every of those educated persons can hark that romantic language.

Ooouuu, sounds so Germanic. Good thing they don't speak like that anymore  :yes:
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 1, 2011, 22:18
Ooouuu, sounds so Germanic. Good thing they don't speak like that anymore  :yes:
May tarnation take all that uneloquent "contemporary english"!
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 1, 2011, 22:20
Yep, guys. I'm listening Nightwish for few days continuosly.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 1, 2011, 22:21
English is totally NOT boring. American one sometimes is.
Which variety is not boring?
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 1, 2011, 22:22
Ooouuu, sounds so Germanic. Good thing they don't speak like that anymore  :yes:
May tarnation take all that uneloquent "contemporary english"!

The simpler the best :) I like simplicity and I know that it comes from something Freudian :)
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 1, 2011, 22:23
Yep, guys. I'm listening Nightwish for few days continuosly.
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 1, 2011, 22:23
English is totally NOT boring. American one sometimes is.
Which variety is not boring?

The one they spoke in the 16th century  ;D
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 1, 2011, 22:26
something Freudian
Hm... simplisity in language — complicity in ...
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 1, 2011, 22:27
Niggar you crazy
Да why бы not?
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 1, 2011, 22:29
something Freudian
Hm... simplisity in language — complicity in ...

I like simplicity in general. And I like Freud. And I therefore like the way he interpreted those kinds of things.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 2, 2011, 17:27
Is "chill" more like "прохлада" either "холодрыга"?
What d'you think?
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 2, 2011, 22:17
Is "chill" more like "прохлада" either "холодрыга"?
What d'you think?

I would say it's just холод. Although I doubt that someone will ever say "chill". Something like "it's chilly outside" would sound better. На улице холодно/прохладно. Но прохладно в смысле холодно, а не так, что летняя прохлада.
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 2, 2011, 22:32
I don't like English phonetics, it's really difficult.
mm, shouldn't it be phonology?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 2, 2011, 23:01
Но прохладно в смысле холодно, а не так, что летняя прохлада.
Simply to say "холодрыга"
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 2, 2011, 23:13
Но прохладно в смысле холодно, а не так, что летняя прохлада.
Simply to say "холодрыга"

холод :) just a humble opinion of mine...
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 2, 2011, 23:15
"холодрыга" = freaking cold ;D

We need a native speaker to help us with this one...
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 3, 2011, 04:23
I don't like English phonetics, it's really difficult.
mm, shouldn't it be phonology?
English phonology is not hard if you master English phonetics

this is because the constraints are stricter than Russian phonology, many clusters are simplified
now try to get an English speaker to pronounce Днепр and he'll shit bricks
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 11:31
now try to get an English speaker to pronounce Днепр and he'll shit bricks
Пал'яниця?
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 3, 2011, 11:46
Indeed have not thou
hast not thou
Ooouuu, sounds so Germanic. Good thing they don't speak like that anymore  :yes:
It is a pity.
The one they spoke in the 16th century  ;D
Back then, one could still use spake on a par with spoke. ;)
I like Freud.
:(
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 3, 2011, 11:50
Ooouuu, sounds so Germanic. Good thing they don't speak like that anymore  :yes:
It is a pity.

It is a pity Nazi hadn't won the WWII, right? Indeed, our language in that case would have sounded so damn pretty! ;)
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 3, 2011, 11:55
English phonology is not hard if you master English phonetics

this is because the constraints are stricter than Russian phonology, many clusters are simplified
now try to get an English speaker to pronounce Днепр and he'll shit bricks
I mean the mistake, that Karakurt has made earlier, by writing English phonetics, not phonology.
Of course it is possible to master English phonology. The only thing you have to do is listen to natives and imitate their patterns of speech.
Not only consonant clusters are awful in Russian.. reduced vowels are hideous as well :P
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 3, 2011, 11:56
It is a pity Nazi hadn't won the WWII, right?
No sensible person could agree with that. Especially after the insidious and calamitous incursion into USSR and all concomitant atrocities.
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 3, 2011, 11:56
It is a pity.
By this sentence you imply, that language must not evolve at all, am I right?
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 3, 2011, 11:58
Especially after the insidious and calamitous incursion into USSR and all concomitant atrocities.
Dear God... Have you ever considered looking into a Legal dictionary? Your styles are so intermixed, that your written language is more and more goobledygookish, than it was before..
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 3, 2011, 12:01
I mean the mistake, that Karakurt has made earlier, by writing English phonetics, not phonology.
Why do you think it is a mistake?
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 3, 2011, 12:04
Why do you think it is a mistake?
Because phonetics is a science of sounds in general, while phonology is associated with a certain language.
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Августа 3, 2011, 12:10
Why do you think it is a mistake?
Because phonetics is a science of sounds in general, while phonology is associated with a certain language.
Er, wut?..  :???
Phonetics refers to sounds, while phonology basically refers to phonemes.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 3, 2011, 12:10
Because ...
You're wrong, my friend. :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 12:12
hast not thou
        þenne watz gawan ful glad and gomenly he la3ed
        now I þonk yow þryuandely þur3 alle oþer þynge
        now acheued is my chaunce I schal at your wylle
        dowelle and ellez do quat 3e demen
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 3, 2011, 12:13
svobodný, if you have descried any blunder or mistake committed by me, please lay it bare. Disparaging my style just because it displeases you is overly subjective, to say the least.
Have you ever considered looking into a Legal dictionary? Your styles are so intermixed, that your written language is more and more goobledygookish, than it was before..
Have you ever considered busying yourself with M. Heidegger or D. G. Rossetti? Thereby you could enrich considerably your style.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 12:18
And whom those all Heideggerres are?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 12:26
Legal dictionary
is it concret artifact or some genera?
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 3, 2011, 12:30
And whom those all Heideggerres are?
Martin Heidegger is an illustrious existentialist philosopher with a matchless writing style. (wiki/ru) Хайдеггер,_Мартин (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%80,_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 12:42
Philosophist... ei hyödyllinen lukeminen
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 3, 2011, 14:13
Er, wut?..  :???
Phonetics refers to sounds, while phonology basically refers to phonemes.
and phonemes are in languages, right? so by mastering the pronounciation of the language you have to know the exact set of phonemes, not phones.
You're wrong, my friend. :)
Yeah, right. Read above, now.
svobodný, if you have descried any blunder or mistake committed by me, please lay it bare. Disparaging my style just because it displeases you is overly subjective, to say the least.
:fp:
How many times do I have to write to you that no one writes like that? Your style does not exist in English language. Your written language is not English. Period. Your lexis is a mix of styles. I repeat: a MIX of styles. That's a stylistic error. One big stylistic errors of your is a MIX of styles. Understood it?
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 3, 2011, 14:17
Martin Heidegger is an illustrious existentialist philosopher with a matchless writing style. (wiki/ru) Хайдеггер,_Мартин
:fp:
I believe you haven't heard about synonims. I've seen that 'illustrious' word for, like, over 9000 times. Get a dictionary. Get a dictionary, now.
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 3, 2011, 14:18
and phonemes are in languages, right? so by mastering the pronounciation of the language you have to know the exact set of phonemes, not phones.
I forgot to mention the intonation pattern as well as the stress in English.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 14:26
I forgot to mention the intonation pattern as well as the stress in English.
It's prosodics
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 3, 2011, 14:30
It's prosodics
Prosody*, not prosodics :)

It doesn't matter, really. I really hope that you people have a good base in articulatory phonetics, so I'm mostly concerned with English phonology. That's why it's essential to know the details of phonological theory, that can be applied to the very act of speech.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 14:40
Prosody*, not prosodics :)
I ment not the occurrence but the science.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 3, 2011, 14:54
You ment?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 15:09
You ment?
"meant" I meant...
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 3, 2011, 15:56
I ment not the occurrence but the science.
Oh.. okay. I suppose Ellidi hates me now. Mission accomplished. ;D
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 3, 2011, 16:12
I suggest that we comment each other’s grammar, style, and spelling in spoilers. ;)
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 3, 2011, 16:34
I suggest that we comment each other’s grammar, style, and spelling in spoilers. ;)

I suppose it is a part of our mentality to correct people and to tell them what they odd to do. I personally think it is inappropriate to do so unless one is asking for help. I suggest that we stop doing it at all.  :stop:
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Отправлено: Уттыԓьын от Августа 3, 2011, 16:45
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 3, 2011, 17:00
I suppose it is a part of our mentality to correct people.

lol, that’s true. :) Definitevely ‘watching the rings on the water’ doesn’t harm, but it should neither interfere with the main discussion nor be discouraging.

Уттыԓьын, thanks once again. I think of adding this tailed л to my layout. :)
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Отправлено: Уттыԓьын от Августа 3, 2011, 17:24
Уттыԓьын, thanks once again. I think of adding this tailed л to my layout. :)
You’re welcome. Many sources still use standard л in place of ԓ, so my name can quite reasonably be spelt either Уттыԓьын or Уттыльын, only it’s pronounced /uttəɬʔən/ - with a voiceless alveolar lateral fricative.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 3, 2011, 18:28
've seen that 'illustrious' word for, like, over 9000 times. Get a dictionary.
That's because illustrious is a current and popular adjective. :) Do eximious or eminent displease you less? I enjoy a plethora of English dictionaries, since this is a language I have been studying for years and all of them have contributed to enhancing my vocabulary, as you might have remarked.
I suppose Ellidi hates me now.
Is that what you sought to achieve?
Mission accomplished. ;D
Not yet, you should bestir yourself more.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 19:06
Your poison
Your poison runs through my venes!

Awesome language!
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 3, 2011, 19:08

Song lyrics?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 19:09
Song lyrics?
Yep. Tarja.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 3, 2011, 19:21
I never manage to decipher English lyrics (except for songs like ‘I want you so ba-a-a-a-ad’). My appreciation of music must be rather poor. :( On the other hand, I can concentrate on music proper.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 19:28
manage
You've erewhiles said like a railman.
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 3, 2011, 19:31
I suppose it is a part of our mentality to correct people and to tell them what they odd to do.
No comment.

Ooops...Although that mistake makes me feel damn good about my natural ability to spell words ;)
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 3, 2011, 19:59
manage
You've erewhiles said like a railman.

Is this a compliment? ;D Indeed, I’ve no idea how I may sound. At least the words are English and I hope I don’t violate grammar rules too much—so it must be English. :)
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 3, 2011, 20:03

Are you by any chance russianized yet?  :green:
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 20:04
Is this a compliment?
Sure, dont you know me?
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 3, 2011, 20:05
Is this a compliment?
Sure, dont you know me?

Of course, I do. ;D
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 3, 2011, 20:07
Mr. Iskander's way to express his feelings is never different - no matter what language he uses ;)
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 3, 2011, 20:16
Your poison
Your poison runs through my venes!

Awesome language!
Whom did you address by that?  :???
I suggest that we comment each other’s grammar, style, and spelling in spoilers. ;)
Oh yes, and speak in concrete terms, explain unæquivocally wherein one's objection consists - not like A is not good, B is appalling and so on. I can also simply enumerate my personal propensities and gustos (and displeasure), but I refrain therefrom. This is nowhere near as conducive to a fruitful, agreeable conversation.

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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 20:35
Mr. Iskander's way to express his feelings is never different - no matter what language he uses ;)
Yep, D'you think that's amiss?
Olen soittanut tahansa kielellä...

Whom did you address by that?  :???
It's Tarja sigs, for me ::)
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Отправлено: Awwal12 от Августа 3, 2011, 21:04
I suggest that we stop doing it at all.  :stop:
For some weird reason, I supposed that this thread was dedicated to improving the language skills of the participants...  :???
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 3, 2011, 21:08
Mr. Iskander's way to express his feelings is never different - no matter what language he uses ;)
Yep, D'you think that's amiss?

That's totally fine, but I find it somewhat interesting.
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 3, 2011, 21:09
I suggest that we stop doing it at all.  :stop:
For some weird reason, I supposed that this thread was dedicated to improving the language skills of the participants...  :???

Also, it is the fear of being laughed at that stops lots of people from trying to write in English here.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 21:16
That's totally fine, but I find it somewhat interesting.
D'you prefer boring talker?
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 3, 2011, 21:26
That's totally fine, but I find it somewhat interesting.
D'you prefer boring talker?

Why?  :donno: What made you think so?

Aanyway, people, let's talk about serious stuff in here :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 21:28
Aanyway, people, let's talk about serious stuff in here
Ыщ Ш вщ!

=

So I do!
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 3, 2011, 21:40
Also, it is the fear of being laughed at that stops lots of people from trying to write in English here.

And this is very sad. Usus optimus magister, the experience is the best teacher. Anyway misuses are almost inevitable. Corrections should by no means be discouraging or obtrusive. Not everyone feels the need to be corrected.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 3, 2011, 21:43
Aanyway, people, let's talk about serious stuff in here :)

Linguistics, eh? ;) Could we just talk about some languages? (Other than English, of course.) Or perhaps computer algebra systems? Currently we are discussing them at ‘Математика’, I’d like to learn more about Maxima.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 21:49
Not everyone feels the need to be corrected.
If that everyone has no need to be corrected?
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 3, 2011, 21:53
in here
Can you rephrase?
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 3, 2011, 21:53
Not everyone feels the need to be corrected.
If that everyone has no need to be corrected?

I have. And I much appreciate any help. :yes:
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 21:55
Or perhaps computer algebra systems?
Nop. Sertanly, such a kind of things with many integrals under exponents with nablahs and stuff give my brain 1010 of creeps.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 21:55
I have. And I much appreciate any help. :yes:
So I asked not on yours.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 3, 2011, 22:03
So I asked not on yours.

You mean that comment about ‘veins’? Never mind.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 22:09
You mean that comment about ‘veins’? Never mind.
Noperrhhh.!
I asked THIS —
If that everyone has no need to be corrected?
not of mine either.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 3, 2011, 22:12
I’m afraid I cease to understand. ;D
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 3, 2011, 22:14
I’m afraid I cease to understand. ;D
Translate that pair of phrases into rus.

Your poison...
Your poison runs trough my veins.
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 3, 2011, 22:21
in here
Can you rephrase?

Why?
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 3, 2011, 22:27
Why "here" is not enough?
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 4, 2011, 11:17
That's because illustrious is a current and popular adjective. :) Do eximious or eminent displease you less? I enjoy a plethora of English dictionaries, since this is a language I have been studying for years and all of them have contributed to enhancing my vocabulary, as you might have remarked.
Thesaurus can show you even more adjectives.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 4, 2011, 13:05
Thesaurus can show you even more adjectives.
Are those of deceitful?
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Отправлено: huaxia от Августа 13, 2011, 20:48
This whole summer is totally fucked-up :(
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 13, 2011, 20:55
Whz do you think so?
You travelled, relaxed, assorted...
That was good, not like mine.
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Отправлено: huaxia от Августа 13, 2011, 21:05
You travelled, relaxed, assorted...
Are you kidding??
For the whole summer I've been in this stupid dusty town, trying to find a proper summer job. Also I realized that I'm a pretty shitty interpreter and both my English and Chinese totally suck >_<
I haven't even found a boyfriend yet :'-(
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 13, 2011, 21:07
this stupid dusty town
is...
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Отправлено: huaxia от Августа 13, 2011, 21:09
is...
Jakutsk.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 13, 2011, 21:22
trying to find a proper summer job

Never mind. Work is evil. :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 13, 2011, 21:38
Ohhh
I catch an idea
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 13, 2011, 22:23
I haven't even found a boyfriend yet :'-(
Are the lads with whom you consociated too superficial or too inconstant? Or too intent on carnal pleasures and oblivious of the spiritual dimension of a relationship? Do they eschew enduring attachment?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 13, 2011, 23:35
superficial
carnal
eschew
У меня от первого же запроса мультитран просто вырубился

attachment
а это, мне кажется вообще не вч тему.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 13, 2011, 23:42
superficial
carnal
eschew
У меня от первого же запроса мультитран просто вырубился

;) Learn Latin! Superficiēs ‘surface’, carnālis < carō ‘meat’. As for eschew, I don’t know. Must have been distorted in French.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Августа 13, 2011, 23:49
As for eschew, I don’t know.
To eschew means "to refrain, to avoid" :umnik:
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Отправлено: huaxia от Августа 14, 2011, 00:10
Are the lads with whom you consociated too superficial or too inconstant? Or too intent on carnal pleasures and oblivious of the spiritual dimension of a relationship? Do they eschew enduring attachment?

Цитата: Oxford dictionary
eschew
[es'cho͞o] es·chew [trans.] deliberately avoid using; abstain from he appealed to the crowd to eschew violence Derivatives: eschewal Origin: late Middle English: from Old French eschiver, ultimately of Germanic origin and related to German scheuen ‘shun’, also to shy I
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 14, 2011, 00:13
from Old French eschiver, ultimately of Germanic origin and related to German scheuen ‘shun’

Uhm, one can’t guess the etymology at the first glance.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 14, 2011, 01:35
dude, couldn't you use any more modern english?? :o
Yes, I am able to recognise colloquial English and in a more or less maladroit way to render it. However, it is time-consuming for me, as the first words to emerge in my memory are those of Latin origin. Thus, I recollect the verb extinguish easier than put off, ignite easier than kindle and so forth. Consequently, I adjoin the first words of these to my sentence rather than the second ones (provided they are synonyms, otherwise I take their semantic dissimilarity into account). However, if my style nonplusses you or anyone else, I could in sooth alter it.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 10:47
Ticklies

Sooo...
There is nothig SO bad in this style, but man, do you really can commune in such a complicate style?
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 14, 2011, 11:31
maladroit
you confuse word's meaning
:???  :-\
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 11:40
:???  :-\
What!?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Августа 14, 2011, 11:46
do you really can commune
Who are just having a chat this way?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 11:57
Who are just having a chat this way?
I suppose that is not the kind of chat when you take a dictionary once per hour.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 11:59
Though, there is nothing wrong in refering the dict.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 12:38
Nyaaaa!
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 14, 2011, 12:44
What!?
What's wrong with using maladroit in this phrase, besides it being a rarely used word?
My dictionary says it means marked by a lack of adroitness; inept.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 13:05
What's wrong with using maladroit in this phrase, besides it being a rarely used word?
My dictionary says it means marked by a lack of adroitness; inept.
This word means You make something ME which was not simply awkward, not only clumsy & unconvenient but was dab embarrasing for me and even impolite, indelicate, eventually gauche
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 13:08
Also I presume this word shall be prononced like /mä lä 'drüa/
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 14, 2011, 13:12
Also I presume this word shall be prononced like /mä lä 'drüa/
I am heartily sorry to disappoint you, dear sir, but I think your idea is not quite right.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 13:18
I am heartily sorry to disappoint you, dear sir, but I think your idea is not quite right.
So said I.

But it shall be much more correct.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 13:22
dear sir
We do not care of that for six generations, but thnx.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 14, 2011, 13:25
dear sir
We do not care of that for six generations, but thnx.
I was merely trying to emulate Ellidi's style or the style that I perceived as being his style of writing. I'm not sure I've succeeded in this endeavor, though.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 13:28
endeavor
I canąt find transcription, is it /in'di vэ/
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 14, 2011, 13:42
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/endeavor
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 13:50
Well, thnx!
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Отправлено: huaxia от Августа 14, 2011, 15:19
gosh, couldn't it be more complicated to chat with you guys?? the way you chat here is incredibly boring. let's pick a topic xD

how was your summer holiday? did anyone have a chance to go abroad this summer?
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 14, 2011, 15:27
did anyone have a chance to go abroad this summer?
not me
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 14, 2011, 15:31
did anyone have a chance to go abroad this summer?
not me

Me neither. :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 15:33
how was your summer holiday? did anyone have a chance to go abroad this summer?
not me too.

Summer is boring topic.
I've been home till tomorrow... Bore. Urph. What can you recomend me to do with that?
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 14, 2011, 15:35
Bore. Urph. What can you recomend me to do with that?

Have a baby. ;up:
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 15:35
It all-through was here (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/worldpost/album/167151/)
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 14, 2011, 15:37
It all-through was here

A lot of trees… I like it!
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 15:37
Have a baby. ;up:
T's interesting.
Do you think infant blood can make me fine'nd cheerfull?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 15:40
A lot of trees… I like it!
trees, babies... it all is not that I want to be blithe.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 15:43
nah you know? It's just time to take my habitual ride through the city and suburbs.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 14, 2011, 20:55
So what!
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 14, 2011, 22:48
How d’you mean?
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 14, 2011, 22:52
Are those of deceitful?
wtf?
Befriend a Thesaurus, nao.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 14, 2011, 22:55
So what!
:-\
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 14, 2011, 23:29
I was merely trying to emulate Ellidi's style or the style that I perceived as being his style of writing. I'm not sure I've succeeded in this endeavor, though.
You did not, because I frown upon non-British spelling varieties. Thus, I would always spell the last noun in your sentence endeavour.
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 14, 2011, 23:37
You did not, because I frown upon non-British spelling varieties. Thus, I would always spell the last noun in your sentence endeavour.
I've got a general question. Mind me telling why you somewhat ignore the words of Germanic origin in English?
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 14, 2011, 23:39
I've got a general question. Mind me telling why you somewhat ignore the words of Germanic origin in English?
Feel free to state your conjecture. Oh, I thought you have one.

The reason is that most of them are false friends. Thus, shard, hound and the verb own are akin to German Scharte, Hund and gönnen, but their meaning differs significantly from the meaning of their German æquivalents. Whereas the meaning of words derived from Latin often coincides with the meaning in Latin, therefore they are easier to cope with.
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 14, 2011, 23:44
Feel free to state your conjecture.
Your vocabulary is mostly made of Latin-based words which are, unfortunately for you I suppose, not widely understood. In other words, it may seem for a simple person whose native language is not English, that you ignore the words of Germanic origin. Those words are a part of English language, for your information. I believe, you are a typical example of a Schoolbook English. Your vocabulary is great, but you often make no sense.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 14, 2011, 23:53
you ignore the words of Germanic origin.
They are scarce in number in comparison with the English vocabulary of Latin origin.
Those words are a part of English language, for your information.
Yes, an exiguous part (judging from their quantity, not their propagation in Tom, Dick and Harry's parlance).
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 14, 2011, 23:56
They are scarce in number in comparison with the English vocabulary of Latin origin.
do you imply, that they can be ommited in the written language?
Yes, an exiguous part (judging from their quantity, not their propagation in common speech).
spoken language form must prevail of forums, while written langauge form must stay in the documents.

i think i'm talking to a wall right now. seriously. a wall. :(
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 15, 2011, 00:06
do you imply, that they can be ommited in the written language?
omitted
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 15, 2011, 00:10
In fact, a few messages ago Ellidi confessed that there’s much to be desired about his proficiency (sorry to say this). I mean this quotation:

Thus, I recollect the verb extinguish easier than put off, ignite easier than kindle and so forth. Consequently, I adjoin the first words of these to my sentence rather than the second ones (provided they are synonyms, otherwise I take their semantic dissimilarity into account).

Actually synonyms deserve more careful attention. The meaning is but one characteristic of a word; there are also connotation, style, idiomatic uses (in most general sense). Roughly speaking, if a word is marked ‘bookish’ in a dictionary, it would be a misuse to put it in in a casual chat. Synonyms are as likely interchangeable as not; even if they are, they are hardly ever identical. One has to pay attention to such niceties so as to gain the appreciation of the language. Notice that I speak of standard modern English, not of the colloquial language.

Even if one chooses to use an obsolete variant of English for communication (some of our fellow-forumers are liable to ;)), the method is just the same. One merely has to consult out-of-date dictionaries.
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 15, 2011, 00:12
omitted
thanks
The meaning is but one characteristic of a word; there are also connotation, style, idiomatic uses (in most general sense).
I give up. Ellidi ignores my messages. It is pointless to talk with a man like him.
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Отправлено: nivtirB от Августа 15, 2011, 00:15
Till now Ellidi barked, now he begins to nipple by the heels.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 15, 2011, 00:22
Till now Ellidi barked, now he begins to nipple by the heels.
Methinks messages with such disparaging content infuse contention, animosity and vexation into the current conversation.
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Отправлено: svobodný от Августа 15, 2011, 00:23
Methinks messages with such disparaging content infuse contention, animosity and vexation into the current conversation.
Sensitive, aren't we?
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 15, 2011, 00:29
to nipple

You know, I adore such words, precise and picturesque. ;up: Author, write more. :)
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Отправлено: nivtirB от Августа 15, 2011, 00:53
Till now Ellidi barked, now he begins to nipple by the heels.
Methinks messages with such disparaging content infuse contention, animosity and vexation into the current conversation.

Me thinks they infuse some sense into a conversation.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 15, 2011, 08:14
The reason is that most of them are false friends. Thus, shard, hound and the verb own are akin to German Scharte, Hund and gönnen, but their meaning differs significantly from the meaning of their German æquivalents.
gönnen?! You should of said eignen.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 15, 2011, 10:05
gönnen?! You should of said eignen.
No, not the verb own meaning besitzen, but the one that means zugeben (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/own#Etymology_3).
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 15, 2011, 10:26
Your conversation is soo fascinating, I've even...  being washed out.

May we to talk about rails, loks and either-direction automatic block systems' advantages in production sequences of different types of necks and leads?
Do we?
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 15, 2011, 11:32
gönnen?! You should of said eignen.
No, not the verb own meaning besitzen, but the one that means zugeben (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/own#Etymology_3).
Thanks, I wasn't even aware that such a meaning existed.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 15, 2011, 11:36
Your conversation is soo fascinating, I've even...  being washed out.

May we to talk about rails, loks and either-direction automatic block systems' advantages in production sequences of different types of necks and leads?
Do we?
Nah, forget all that railroad bs, lets talk about something interesting and controversial  :green:
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 15, 2011, 11:45
Nah, forget all that railroad bs, lets talk about something interesting and controversial
What can be more controversial than trafic-control? You can by your own hands direct trains, one by one, one by one, head on head... ups. I've leaked...
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 15, 2011, 11:46
to nipple
You know, I adore such words, precise and picturesque. ;up: Author, write more. :)
And what does it mean? It's absent from my dictionary  :(
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 15, 2011, 11:55
to nipple
You know, I adore such words, precise and picturesque. ;up: Author, write more. :)
And what does it mean? It's absent from my dictionary  :(

Personally I mixed it up with ‘to nibble ~ to bite slightly’. However pretty they may be, such words tend to slip out of my memory.

As for ‘to nipple’, now I’m at a loss, unless it’s a typo.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 15, 2011, 12:12
What do you think of audio support in teaching dead languages? ali hoseyn came down on me elsewhere insisting that audio in Akkadian was a moronic idea, while I argued that any means are good as far as they lead to reading fluency.

(Corrections of the sequence of tenses needed!  :o)
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 15, 2011, 12:55
What do you think of audio support in teaching dead languages? ali hoseyn came down on me elsewhere insisting that audio in Akkadian was a moronic idea, while I argued that any means are good as far as they lead to reading fluency.
Well, maybe not completely moronic, but certainly not very useful and popular among the "enlightened".
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 15, 2011, 13:39
What do you think of audio support in teaching dead languages?
Not moronic, but if that's not some like Lazarus' cup — it's just for just. We know something on writing akkadian clearly, but we know something on spoken one only more or less approximately.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 15, 2011, 14:03
What do you think of audio support in teaching dead languages? ali hoseyn came down on me elsewhere insisting that audio in Akkadian was a moronic idea, while I argued that any means are good as far as they lead to reading fluency.
Well, maybe not completely moronic, but certainly not very useful and popular among the "enlightened".

Why do you call it useless?

What do you think of audio support in teaching dead languages?
Not moronic, but if that's not some like Lazarus' cup — it's just for just. We know something on writing akkadian clearly, but we know something on spoken one only more or less approximately.

Before I reply anything, could you specify what the Lazarus’ cup is?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 15, 2011, 14:31
what the Lazarus’ cup is?
Sumethyng from "Clara Loft". The cup, in which JX's spellings imbeded while He was resurrecting Lazarus.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 15, 2011, 15:10
What do you think of audio support in teaching dead languages?
Not moronic, but if that's not some like Lazarus' cup — it's just for just. We know something on writing akkadian clearly, but we know something on spoken one only more or less approximately.

Again I’m not sure about ‘just for just’, yet I hope now I don’t miss your point. :)

As I see it, audio is not a goal in itself, but rather a teaching tool. It does not aim at teaching any ‘correct’ pronunciation: in fact if, say, Akkadian words are in some manner uttered by professors or students, it would be quite all right to record them. Nor do I argue for compiling dialogues or inventing quasi-spoken language: I have in mind recording original texts. Finally, audio must not be used alone: a student should combine it with other techniques. The more memory types are involved, the better (which is a commonplace in psychology).

In order to achieve reading fluency, a student has to get used to the language. I think listening to the same text over and over again contributes a lot to this task: the student memorises vocabulary and improves his grammar skills, he just absorbs the language. This can be done e. g. when going somewhere or washing the dishes. :)
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Отправлено: nivtirB от Августа 15, 2011, 23:40
As for ‘to nipple’, now I’m at a loss, unless it’s a typo.

You are right: it was a typo. Sorry. But nice trotzdem. :)
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 15, 2011, 23:48
As I see it, audio is not a goal in itself, but rather a teaching tool. It does not aim at teaching any ‘correct’ pronunciation: in fact if, say, Akkadian words are in some manner uttered by professors or students, it would be quite all right to record them. Nor do I argue for compiling dialogues or inventing quasi-spoken language: I have in mind recording original texts. Finally, audio must not be used alone: a student should combine it with other techniques. The more memory types are involved, the better (which is a commonplace in psychology).
This is a very brave proposal, in fact I almost agree with what you've said, but I'm afraid the long-established tradition of teaching dead languages will eventually lead us to consider some other options. (http://lingvoforum.net/index.php/topic,10977.msg965473.html#msg965473)  :)
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 16, 2011, 00:08
As I see it, audio is not a goal in itself, but rather a teaching tool. It does not aim at teaching any ‘correct’ pronunciation: in fact if, say, Akkadian words are in some manner uttered by professors or students, it would be quite all right to record them. Nor do I argue for compiling dialogues or inventing quasi-spoken language: I have in mind recording original texts. Finally, audio must not be used alone: a student should combine it with other techniques. The more memory types are involved, the better (which is a commonplace in psychology).
This is a very brave proposal, in fact I almost agree with what you've said, but I'm afraid the long-established tradition of teaching dead languages will eventually lead us to consider some other options.  :)

:up:

I don’t care about actual instruction of Assyriologists or whoever. I’m just stating the obvious fact that modern technologies can make teaching and learning more efficient. If they are such elitists that they prefer clay tablets to all other technologies, it’s up to them. :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 16, 2011, 09:46
Well, signal towers and so on would be much better theme to discuss. I swear.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 16, 2011, 11:17
Come on then. :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 16, 2011, 11:19
So have zou ever seen trains racing each other?
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 16, 2011, 11:20
Never.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 16, 2011, 11:25
I have. That's funny. It becomes possible when station have several backbones those connect two different pairs of sections without intersecting and the trains have the same time throughfeed proceeding.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 16, 2011, 11:30
Also on double-track sections on Lviv RW of UZ they make fun.
They use both tracks for both down & up trains.
Dispatch Hell!
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 16, 2011, 12:01
All you men live in cities but nobody knows even approximately the way all those technothings work. Not only rail, but phone, plump, power... Who prowides... Who attends...
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Отправлено: huaxia от Августа 16, 2011, 18:40
i wish i could go somewhere abroad at least for three days, splash around the sea, wander in a huge city with a map, just to be a tourist with a stupid Panama hat who takes pictures all around, hang out in some nice clubs, give way to adrenalin on the rides, sit at the romantic beach and have some beer with a pretty girl...

any mistakes here btw?
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Отправлено: Уттыԓьын от Августа 16, 2011, 19:27
any mistakes here btw?
Not mistakes exactly – nothing you’ve written seems to me grammatically, syntactically, or semantically impossible (informally, at any rate) – but I’d probably have rearranged the word-order or slightly rephrased in a couple of places.

I wish I could go abroad somewhere for at least three days, splash around in the sea, wander in a huge city with a map, just be a tourist with a stupid Panama hat who takes pictures of everything, hang out in some nice clubs, get an adrenaline-rush on the rides, have a romantic time sitting on the beach and having a beer with a pretty girl...

Something like that, maybe.
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Отправлено: huaxia от Августа 16, 2011, 19:39
Thanks a lot! :))
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 16, 2011, 20:19
Wasily, is your english originally from school program?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 16, 2011, 21:27
The sonorous voice with deep-toned notes is so splendid. Last week I've heared a lot ov — cello-solo, Tarja Turunen, Edyta Gorniak, Erika Náray...
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 16, 2011, 21:30
I’ve been in the mood for David Bowie lately.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Августа 16, 2011, 21:34
What is the album?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 16, 2011, 21:39
David Bowie lately.
Why d́you ÅAS lately?
And where is that deepness I said on in Bowies voice?
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 16, 2011, 21:44
autolyk, in case you mean Bowie: mainly Aladdin Sane, Ziggy Stardust, and Scary Monsters. Some time ago I downloaded a lot of albums for my mother and got taste for Bowie myself, even though I hadn’t been his fan before.

And where is that deepness I said on in Bowies voice?

Where is that Bowie I said on in your deepness? ;D
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Отправлено: autolyk от Августа 16, 2011, 21:48
mainly Aladdin Sane, Ziggy Stardust, and Scary Monsters.
This is great. My favourit track from "Ziggy Stardust" is the Starman.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 16, 2011, 21:59
This is great. My favourit track from "Ziggy Stardust" is the Starman.

I like it. ;up: On the other hand, I can hardly pick out a favourite track: for me it’s a kind of album that one likes entirely. :) Perhaps, Five Years or Lady Stardust.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 16, 2011, 22:02
Whereas we speak on tenor-row male voices I've got hooked on tenore spinto di Dolhai Attila. Even he has more many deep notes than your Bowie.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 16, 2011, 22:05
I can’t keep in my curiosity any more: vad är det?

ÅAS
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 16, 2011, 22:11
I can’t keep in my curiosity any more: vad är det?
that was my own kb+layout wich is adjusted to english language and contains å instead w.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 16, 2011, 22:17
The sentence is still non-readable.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 16, 2011, 22:34
The sentence is still non-readable.
The same Kwas' one was.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 16, 2011, 22:40
Искандер, shall I clarify anything?

As for voice qualities, I admit I’m quite ignorant of it.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 17, 2011, 00:26
Do not worry. It's just I am a grumbler & nebbech. Nischt zorgh.
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Отправлено: huaxia от Августа 17, 2011, 12:12
Wasily, is your english originally from school program?
Yes, it is. Is it that appreciable? Is something wrong with my sentences??
Actually it's my major now in the university, but I have to admit that I didn't make any big progress since high-school, and this year I realized that I totally suck at oral translation and my vocabulary is really limited. I think it's mostly because I'm studying three languages at once, paying less attention to English.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 17, 2011, 12:26
Yes, it is. Is it that appreciable? Is something wrong with my sentences??
Nope at all I supposed something opposite.
I have epic problems with oral communication too. T's so manky...
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 17, 2011, 14:02
I have epic problems with oral communication too.

I have no problems. No one to talk to. ;D
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Отправлено: autolyk от Августа 17, 2011, 15:54
Also to talk about. :)
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 18, 2011, 00:36
People, English is BORING!
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 18, 2011, 00:37
People, English is BORING!

To whom how. ;D
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 18, 2011, 00:46
Konay, if you can write in French or Latin, you’re welcome! Unfortunately, my German is somewhat rusty now.
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 18, 2011, 01:00
Konay, if you can write in French or Latin, you’re welcome! Unfortunately, my German is somewhat rusty now.

I wish I could. I can only speak Russian and English at a somewhat decent level. As you can see, I'm a lazy bastard ;)
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 18, 2011, 01:02
People, English is BORING!

To whom how. ;D

It is very Russian to say that ;) See, how not boring Russian is! :)
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 18, 2011, 01:11
It’s from a joke:

— How much clock?
— Six watch.
— Such much?
— To whom how…
— Who you?
— Who я?!
— Too MGIMO finished?
— A-a-a-ask!..
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Отправлено: DarkEuge от Августа 19, 2011, 14:56
 :D Never heard it before! But speaking seriously - do you know that Russian English is quite a dialect already? They call it Ruslish. For example, they say "an intercity call" instead of  "a long-distance call".  :)
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 19, 2011, 15:19
Really? :) Where do they say so?
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Отправлено: DarkEuge от Августа 19, 2011, 18:57
In Russia, I think :). But I'm afraid I made a mistake because the article where I found it is here (http://www.philology.ru/linguistics3/safonova-00.htm) and the phrase was "interurban call".  :-[
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 19, 2011, 20:52
I found it is here and the phrase was "interurban call".  :-[
If you means "межгород" than you/they have a mistake.
Interurban calls are something ex.g. I have here at my place.
My number is not a 44-***, but 51-44-*** instead. Also I can make calls to different towns of my rayon and to Stal too using not 496-52-***** but 52-**-*** instead.
This is interurban.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 19, 2011, 21:51
I think we can safely trust Искандер in what concerns all sorts of communications. :)
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 19, 2011, 22:02
Although we may face some difficulties when we actually begin to apply his advice in practice :)
because as it turns out not everyone here he speaks to is able to understand his gibberish
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 19, 2011, 22:19
Although we may face some difficulties when we actually begin to apply his advice in practice :)
because as it turns out not everyone here he speaks to is able to understand his gibberish
f.o., dude!
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 19, 2011, 22:20
We’ll ask him over and over for explanations in case we need them! ;D Never mind, Искандер. :)
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 19, 2011, 22:25
f.o., dude!
No offense intended there, pal!
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 19, 2011, 22:31
No offense intended there, pal!
That's not offense, just harsh language
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 19, 2011, 22:32
It was in homish way, Cattley...
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 19, 2011, 22:47
It was in homish way, Cattley...
Homish?  :??? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homish
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 20, 2011, 00:48
:???
Normal British "homish", like "homey"
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 20, 2011, 07:16
Wasily, is your english originally from school program?
Yes, it is. Is it that appreciable? Is there something wrong with my sentences??
Actually it's my major now in the university, but I have to admit that I didn't make any big progress since high-school, and this year I realized that I totally suck at oral translation and my vocabulary is really limited. I think it's mostly because I'm studying three languages at once, paying less attention to English.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 20, 2011, 15:43
Why this thread is so unpopular? Where is everyone?  :what:
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 20, 2011, 15:50
I'm here, Cattley
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 20, 2011, 15:54
Does English become simpler?
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 20, 2011, 15:54
Why this thread is so unpopular? Where is everyone?  :what:

Present!
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Августа 20, 2011, 16:00
Why this thread is so unpopular?
Because English is boring, obviously.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 20, 2011, 16:03
The idlers have nothing to talk about. :)
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 20, 2011, 16:03
Does English become simpler?
Maybe that's what has become of your English?  :donno:
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 20, 2011, 16:06
Why? Must "Is becoming" be used? What tendencies do exist?
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 20, 2011, 16:17
"Is becoming" be used?
I think so.
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Августа 20, 2011, 16:19
Why? Must "Is becoming" be used?
I believe yes, since it's an action in progress at the moment of speaking.

There are lots of cases when different tenses should be used, but I've managed to forget all the grammar already. ;D
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 20, 2011, 16:24
There are lots of cases when different tenses should be used, but I've managed to forget all the grammar already.
Why can't we just speak English, not choose correct tenses and other stuff?
I think there is no need in tenses so.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 20, 2011, 16:25
Is it ok to use past simple instead of perfect?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 20, 2011, 16:27
Is it ok to use past simple instead of perfect?
It's quite all-right when you mean something not so perfect but rather simple.
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Августа 20, 2011, 16:32
There are lots of cases when different tenses should be used, but I've managed to forget all the grammar already.
Why can't we just speak English, not choose correct tenses and other stuff?
Well... Theoretically we can speak English without choosing tenses, but the result may turn out to be not really English. ;D

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I think there is no need in tenses so.
I think there is no need in English, so...
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Августа 20, 2011, 16:35
Is it ok to use past simple instead of perfect?
You are unlikely to run into misunderstanding speaking like this, I guess.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 20, 2011, 16:36
Well... Theoretically we can speak English without choosing tenses, but the result may turn out to be not really English. ;D
But englishmen do! They speak. They do not choose. & they're happy!
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Августа 20, 2011, 16:36
Is it ok to use past simple instead of perfect?
You are unlikely to run into misunderstanding speaking like this, I guess.
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Августа 20, 2011, 16:38
Well... Theoretically we can speak English without choosing tenses, but the result may turn out to be not really English. ;D
But englishmen do! They speak. They do not choose. & they're happy!
It's because of their rotten capitalistic outlook! We should preserve the real beauty of the truъ English language, which is unfortunately so rare nowadays. ;)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 20, 2011, 16:41
We should preserve the real beauty of the truъ English language, which is unfortunately so rare nowadays. ;)
We shall I say!
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 20, 2011, 16:43
It's because of their rotten capitalistic outlook! We should preserve the real beauty of the truъ English language, which is unfortunately so rare nowadays. ;)
We should restrain ourselves from looking at the rotting corpse of Western capitalism lest it become too alluring   :)
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 20, 2011, 16:53
Absent.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 20, 2011, 17:00
Absent
You like to drink this?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 20, 2011, 17:09
You like to drink this?
You forget "Do".
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Августа 20, 2011, 17:13
You like to drink this?
You forget "Do".
An American once told me that asking questions with an affirmative word order is possible, when the speaker expects a positive answer. ;D

But, of course, this is by no means truъ English.
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 20, 2011, 17:19
Absent
You like to drink this?
Only negroes pronounce absinthe as absent  ;D
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 20, 2011, 17:54
An American once told me that asking questions with an affirmative word order is possible, when the speaker expects a positive answer. ;D

But, of course, this is by no means truъ English.
Insted of that... itąs totallz possible in Smolensk's tongue of Ru-Be-language continuum. Both wordorder & intonation are positive, but the sentence, sudden, is a question.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 20, 2011, 17:54
Only negroes pronounce absinthe as absent  ;D
We are not rasists.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 20, 2011, 21:22
Why this thread is so unpopular? Where is everyone?  :what:
Present!
Absent
You like to drink this?

Rather I’m recalling good old days at school. What date is it today? Ivanov!—Present!—Petrov!—He is absent today! Who is on duty today? ::)
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 20, 2011, 21:46
Rather I’m recalling good old days at school. What date is it today? Ivanov!—Present!—Petrov!—He is absent today! Who is on duty today? ::)
Were they really that good? I remember my doubts about my schoolteachers' English proficiency, their rather lame attempts to teach us and so on.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 20, 2011, 21:57
I was only decently teached English in the 6—8th forms.

People tend to forget evil things; actually I can’t remember anything especially nasty about that time.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 20, 2011, 21:58
Our English teacher at the university was quite good and she had an American accent  ::)  having spent several years studying in the DC.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 20, 2011, 22:02
I was only decently teached English in the 6—8th forms.

People tend to forget evil things; actually I can’t remember anything especially nasty about that time.
Are you sure dear Quasus you were "teached" back in school? Was it painful?  :D
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 20, 2011, 22:12
teached
taught?
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 20, 2011, 22:13
I can’t say my teachers were incompetent. Rather they didn’t take pains, since English was not my major. I think the only new thing I learned at the university classes was the word ‘arbitrary’. ;D In fact, some of my mates could hardly read. By and large, I consider myself an autodidact.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 20, 2011, 22:17
teached
taught?

Mea culpa. :)

Are you sure dear Quasus you were "teached" back in school? Was it painful?  :D

Now I’d rather say I was taught, and here I stand. :)
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Августа 20, 2011, 22:25
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People tend to forget evil things; actually I can’t remember anything especially nasty about that time.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. When I think about the school days, I usually recall bad things. :о

Though the subjects I was taught weren't that bad.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 20, 2011, 22:29
I think the only new thing I learned at the university classes was the word ‘arbitrary’. ;D In fact, some of my mates could hardly read. By and large, I consider myself an autodidact.
Well, in the university they split us students into groups based on how well we performed in an English proficiency test. I wasn't a fluent English speaker then, but I passed the test and got assigned to a group where most people were able to express themselves in English and one girl was quite fluent, having just returned back to Russia after a long stay in the US.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 11:25
I can’t remember anything especially nasty about that time.
T's soo pity...
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 11:29
When I think about the school days, Í usually recall bad things.
So, you can narrate us something nasty.

Can anybody also give me a cue... — How can we translate properly russian sentences with "же" in Eng?
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 21, 2011, 11:56
You can't translate же 1:1.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 21, 2011, 11:59
If же is without adversative force, it serves to emphasize. Emphatic constructions in English is something worth discussing. Here are some examples from Lingvo:

я же говорил вам об этом! — I did tell you about it!; didn't I tell you about it! ты же не серьезно, да? — surely you don't mean it, do you? он же меня совсем не знает — but he doesn't know me at all почему вы ему не верите? Он же доктор — Why don't you trust him? He is a doctor after all
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Августа 21, 2011, 12:19
So, you can narrate us something nasty.
I'm not in a right mood, maybe next time. ;D

Can anybody also give me a cue... — How can we translate properly russian sentences with "же" in Eng?
Well, in fact, according to Lurkmore, the practice of adding zhe appeared as a translation of the practice of adding desu to every sentence, and should be traced back to the fansubs of the "Rozen Maiden" anime, so it is a kind of meme. I seriouslty doubt it is translatable.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 17:33
Does anzbody knows the library, which someway is like uz-trans, and contains lot ov eng-lang-books, I was registered at but forgot every keyword to find it... ?
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 21, 2011, 17:36
Perhaps library.nu (http://library.nu)? Formerly it was called gigapedia.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 17:58
Xnx, though I have in mind something other...
Is it free lybrary?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 18:02
Have I already been saying  that Nuristan islamization is a beeeeg sulphurous blackly?
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 21, 2011, 18:04
Only negroes pronounce absinthe as absent  ;D
We are not racists.
Let's just PRETEND they don't have their own dialect because being a racist is bad, amirite?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 18:23
Let's just PRETEND they don't have their own dialect because being a racist is bad, amirite?
Imeant there isn't any bad in speaking negroes' diallect. Also I presume negroes plunk ARE racistc.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 19:07
Xnx, though I have in mind something other...
Is it free lybrary?
Besides, I meant literature books.
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Августа 21, 2011, 19:08
greylib?
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 21, 2011, 19:09
Let's just PRETEND they don't have their own dialect because being a racist is bad, amirite?
Also I presume negroes plunk ARE racistc.
wat
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Августа 21, 2011, 19:11
iopq-san, please, pay attention to the "Вопрос о спрособе передачи определенной особенности человека" topic. We need your opinion there. ;D
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Августа 21, 2011, 19:32
People tend to forget evil things; actually I can’t remember anything especially nasty about that time.
I suppose I do not belong to those people. I can easily recollect disagreeable experience which had befallen me. Here I use recollect in the Kierkegaardian sense of huske. But I desist from reminiscing (erindre mig) about that kind of events, however irresistible the temptation may appear...
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People tend to forget evil things; actually I can’t remember anything especially nasty about that time.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. When I think about the school days, I usually recall bad things. :о
:+1:
she had an American accent
What a pity. Did you take to it?
one girl was quite fluent, having just returned back to Russia after a long stay in the US.
Had she adopted the overseas pronunciation?
should be traced back to the fansubs of the "Rozen Maiden" anime, so it is a kind of meme. I seriouslty doubt it is translatable.
Does anyone know what percentage of non-Japanese anime fans are fluent in Japanese?  :-\
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 19:50
wat
Negroes are racists.
I wonder if you didn't know that...
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 21, 2011, 19:57
wat
Negroes are racists.
I wonder if you didn't know that...
saying this is racist  ;D
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 20:11
saying this is racist  ;D
Don't pretend negroes are white.
They are black and therefore they are named negroes.
Also mostly most of them are racists.
And I'm not.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 20:13
Does anyone know what percentage of non-Japanese anime fans are fluent in Japanese?  :-\
that is measly miserable part of the least part of nobody of them.
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 21, 2011, 20:51
saying this is racist  ;D
Don't pretend negroes are white.
They are black and therefore they are named negroes.
Also mostly most of them are racists.
And I'm not.
I'm not a racist either
Racism is a crime
and crime is for niggers
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 21:01
I'm not a racist either
Racism is a crime
and crime is for niggers
Now I like you say.
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 21, 2011, 21:04
Is it free lybrary?

Yes, library.nu is free. There is fiction there, too.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 21:59
fiction
fiction like fiction or rather fiction?
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 21, 2011, 22:01
fiction
fiction like fiction or rather fiction?

What they call художественная литература.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 21, 2011, 23:38
What they call художественная литература.
They call it literature. Fiction is mostly synonim. But it more prosaic, novelic & AE.
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 22, 2011, 07:12
What they call художественная литература.
They call it literature. Fiction is mostly synonim. But it more prosaic, novelic & AE.
no, it's called fiction
otherwise there wouldn't be stories of people putting the Bible in the fiction section of a book store  ;D
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 22, 2011, 09:55
there wouldn't be
what what what!?
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 22, 2011, 13:23
there wouldn't be
what what what!?
Conditional mood pointing to a counterfactual meaning
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 22, 2011, 13:27
Conditional mood pointing to a counterfactual meaning
I have listened one abkhayian legend a moment ago. I've understood only caшьақәа гьы амратәыла of over 200 words. So the same I see here.
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 22, 2011, 20:22
Conditional mood pointing to a counterfactual meaning
I have listened one abkhayian legend a moment ago. I've understood only caшьақәа гьы амратәыла of over 200 words. So the same I see here.
I see, said the blind man
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 22, 2011, 20:48
I see, said the blind man
may be not see but hear... I've not understood you anyway...
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Августа 22, 2011, 20:58
Actually, it's the first time I see the word 'counterfactual'. It's meaning is easily understood from the constituent morphemes, but I've never seen such a word before. ;D
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 24, 2011, 10:09
I see, said the blind man
may be not see but hear... I've not understood you anyway...
Come on, have you no sense of humor?
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 25, 2011, 03:30
saying this is racist  ;D
Don't pretend negroes are white.
They are black and therefore they are named negroes.
Also mostly most of them are racists.
And I'm not.
I'm not a racist either
Racism is a crime
and crime is for niggers
Vspomnil:

I hate two things in this life: racism and niggers
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Отправлено: From_Odessa от Августа 25, 2011, 03:32
I hate two things in this life: racism and niggers
Yeah, this joke is known in the whole world, I think )
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 25, 2011, 10:11
Yeah, this joke is known in the whole world, I think )
It was created in the dark ages by Langobards.
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Отправлено: From_Odessa от Августа 25, 2011, 14:48
It was created in the dark ages by Langobards.
But it's known very good today.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 25, 2011, 14:50
But it's known very good today.
the same
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Отправлено: From_Odessa от Августа 25, 2011, 14:55
the same
What do you mean?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 25, 2011, 14:58
What do you mean?
You've said the same I'd said.
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Отправлено: From_Odessa от Августа 25, 2011, 15:08
You've said the same I'd said.
Realy? I can't see it...
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 25, 2011, 15:10
It was created in the dark ages by Langobards.
=
it's known very good today.
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Отправлено: From_Odessa от Августа 25, 2011, 15:15
Искандер

No, I understood what you meant. I can't understand why you said that It was the same.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 25, 2011, 15:19
Langobards have long beards....
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 25, 2011, 15:23
Langobardi habent longas barbas… It sounds like the beginning of a rhyme.
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Отправлено: Валер от Августа 25, 2011, 15:24
Langobards have long beards....
Or rather they had.. ;)
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Отправлено: Валер от Августа 25, 2011, 15:28
Langobardi habent longas barbas… It sounds like the beginning of a rhyme.
Sounds just great) So many consonants) It reminds me somewhat Deutch ;D
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 25, 2011, 15:31
Langobardi habent longas barbas… It sounds like the beginning of a rhyme.
Sounds just great) So many consonants) It reminds me somewhat Deutch ;D

Not so great for me. ;D It’s rather inelegant. It would be more classic to say langobardis longæ sunt barbæ (I’m in a mood for old-style Latin spelling).
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Отправлено: Валер от Августа 25, 2011, 15:46
Langobardi habent longas barbas… It sounds like the beginning of a rhyme.
Sounds just great) So many consonants) It reminds me somewhat Deutch ;D

Not so great for me. ;D It’s rather inelegant. It would be more classic to say langobardis longæ sunt barbæ (I’m in a mood for old-style Latin spelling).
Hm..but is it not a question of different construction here rather than that of spelling? And as for spelling.. I like your mood)
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 25, 2011, 21:23
Hm..but is it not a question of different construction here rather than that of spelling? And as for spelling.. I like your mood)

Yes, it is. As for spelling, my remark just explains the ligature æ that is out of use nowadays.

In fact, old spelling impressed me not with its ligatures, but with the the idea behind its diacritics. The latter is intended to enable one to grasp the grammatical structure from the first glance. Take for example the following sentence from Erasmus:

Vitâ famâque incolumi, periit pecunia. With the life and the reputation intact, the money perished.

Without the circumflexes one needs to trace the sentence up to the third word so as to realise that vita and fama are in the ablative case.

Of course, the textbook-style orthography

Vītā fāmāque incolumī, periit pecūnia.

effectively deals with the problem, yet the phonetic information is excessive even for an intermediate student, and lots of macrons make the text look rather ugly, don’t they?

I understand that these technicalities may be of interest only for myself, but this thread is  anyway intended for English flood, doesn’t it? :)
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Отправлено: Валер от Августа 25, 2011, 21:56
Hm..but is it not a question of different construction here rather than that of spelling? And as for spelling.. I like your mood)

Yes, it is. As for spelling, my remark just explains the ligature æ that is out of use nowadays.

In fact, old spelling impressed me not with its ligatures, but with the the idea behind its diacritics. The latter is intended to enable one to grasp the grammatical structure from the first glance.
That's it, from the first glance, I like the idea too, though  diacritics here is something I know so little of)
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 25, 2011, 22:15
That's it, from the first glance, I like the idea too, though  diacritics here is something I know so little of)

Neither do I. :) What’s more, the use of diacritics varied in time. The circumflex in the ablative ending was the most constant feature.

If you are interested, you can learn a little more from my blog post (http://quasus.livejournal.com/890.html) (yes, I do have a blog! 8-)).
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 25, 2011, 22:25
I do have
emphatic, or something bad?
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 25, 2011, 22:28
I do have
emphatic, or something bad?
.
Emphatic. For a long time I thought I had nothing to tell the world, but finally I decided that the world didn’t need read my blog. ;D
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Отправлено: Валер от Августа 25, 2011, 22:31
I do have
emphatic, or something bad?
.
Emphatic. For a long time I thought I had nothing to tell the world, but finally I decided that the world didn’t need read my blog. ;D
Why сonceal your thoughts from this world as Iskander says)
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 25, 2011, 23:27
didn’t need __ read my blog.
:???  :-\
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 25, 2011, 23:32
didn’t need __ read my blog.
:???  :-\

As a modal verb ‘needn’t’ takes the infinitive without to. I wasn’t sure about its past tence, so I just googled ‘didn’t need read’ and got a good deal of results.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 25, 2011, 23:33
Why not "don't need read___ my..."   ???
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 25, 2011, 23:34
The verb in the main clause was in the past tence: ‘decided’. Else it would be ‘needn’t read’, and the grammar is OK.

I could write ‘was not obliged to’: a bit more bookish, but again the grammar is OK.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 25, 2011, 23:41
As a modal verb ‘needn’t’ takes the infinitive without to. I wasn’t sure about its past tence, so I just googled ‘didn’t need read’ and got a good deal of results.
Well, some of these results do not apply here, e.g. sentences like "He clearly could have sold you something you didn't need. Read your svc guide in your glove box manual for appropriate svc intervals" or "They didn't need (...) Read More (...)"
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 25, 2011, 23:46
Well, some of these results do not apply here

I would be surprised if they all did. :) A couple examples from native speakers would suffice (a single instance in a book would be even better). The only drawback of the Google method is that it doesn’t distinguish between natives and non-natives. ;D

I don’t feel like plunging into a grammar reference right now. Perhaps later…
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 25, 2011, 23:46
I'm not a big fan of linguistic prescription, but let's have a look at a note on usage from my dictionary:
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Usage Note: Depending on the sense, the verb need behaves sometimes like an auxiliary verb (such as can or may) and sometimes like a main verb (such as want or try). When used as a main verb, need agrees with its subject, takes to before the verb following it, and combines with do in questions, negations, and certain other constructions: He needs to go. Does he need to go so soon? He doesn't need to go. When used as an auxiliary verb, need does not agree with its subject, does not take to before the verb following it, and does not combine with do: He needn't go. Need he go so soon? The auxiliary forms of need are used primarily in present-tense questions, negations, and conditional clauses. Unlike can and may, auxiliary need has no form for the past tense like could and might.

(emphasis mine)
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 25, 2011, 23:48
Thanks, Чайник777. You confirm my worst suspicions. I wonder how they express lack of necessity in the past.
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 26, 2011, 00:16
I do have
emphatic, or something bad?
.
Emphatic. For a long time I thought I had nothing to tell the world, but finally I decided that the world didn’t need to read my blog. ;D
fyp
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 26, 2011, 00:27
Let it be decisive. :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 26, 2011, 10:20
fyp
is the f a t or the y a nothing?
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Отправлено: Уттыԓьын от Августа 26, 2011, 14:16
I wonder how they express lack of necessity in the past.

If you mean lack of necessity using auxiliary ‘need’, then ‘needn’t’ with the perfect infinitive (without ‘to’). But the meaning is different.

1.   “the world didn’t need to read my blog” : there was no necessity and it may or may not have happened
2.   “the world needn’t have read my blog” : there was no necessity, but it did happen

Alternatively, you can use ‘need’ as a nominal:

3.   “there was no need for the world to read my blog”

Or you can use the past tense of ‘have to’:

4.   “the world didn’t have to read my blog”
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Отправлено: Квас от Августа 26, 2011, 15:25
Thanks, Уттыԓьын. I think I would have chosen #3 or #4. I guess #2 shouldn’t be used in a subordinate clause if the verb of the main clause is in a past tence.

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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 28, 2011, 17:58
looks like this thread died out again :(
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 28, 2011, 18:26
Nop!
I want to play KV626 klawier
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Отправлено: Hellerick от Августа 28, 2011, 19:16
There was Faina Ranevskaya's anniversary these days. How about translating some of her quotes (http://ru.wikiquote.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F) into English?

Like this:
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Душа не жопа — высраться не может.
A soul is not an arse — you can't just poop all the shit out of it.
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Женщины, конечно, умнее. Вы когда-нибудь слышали о женщине, которая бы потеряла голову только от того, что у мужчины красивые ноги?
Of course women are smarter. Have you ever heard about a woman who lost her mind just because some man had a pair of pretty legs?
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Вас не смущает,что я курю? — Когда администратор театра увидел её в гримерке абсолютно голой.
You aren't embarrased about me smoking? — When the theatre manager saw her in her dressing room stark naked.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 29, 2011, 00:45
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Вас не смущает,что я курю? — Когда администратор театра увидел её в гримерке абсолютно голой.
You aren't embarrased about me smoking? — When the theatre manager saw her in her dressing room stark naked.
I would suggest Do you mind ... or something like that.
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Отправлено: Konay от Августа 29, 2011, 01:35
Женщины, конечно, умнее. Вы когда-нибудь слышали о женщине, которая бы потеряла голову только от того, что у мужчины красивые ноги?
Of course women are smarter. Have you ever heard about a woman who lost her mind just because some man had a pair of pretty legs?

How about: Have you seen a woman who would loose her mind just seeing a man with pretty legs?
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 29, 2011, 13:16
fyp
is the f a t or the y a nothing?
it stands for Fixed Your Post
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 29, 2011, 13:31
it stands for Fixed Your Post
one another hard-fuccked acronym...
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 29, 2011, 13:57
it stands for Fixed Your Post
one another hard-fuccked acronym...
I think you could have refrained from such frivolities  :(
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 29, 2011, 14:27
I think you could have refrained from such frivolities  :(
Which d'u actually mean?
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Августа 29, 2011, 15:01
Profanity
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 29, 2011, 15:17
it stands for Fixed Your Post
one another hard-fuccked acronym...
один другого твердо-ебаное сокращение?

that doesn't even make sense in Russian
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 29, 2011, 15:40
один другого
Well, what is the proper way to say "ещё одно люто-ё****е"
Q.M.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Августа 29, 2011, 15:44
Which d'u actually mean?
What did you mean by that? :???
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 29, 2011, 15:46
What did you mean by that? :???
just as i said...
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 29, 2011, 16:07
один другого
Well, what is the proper way to say "ещё одно люто-ё****е"
Q.M.
(yet another | one more) dumb fucking abbreviation
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 29, 2011, 16:10
well, bzia wubaáit'
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Отправлено: Fobee от Декабря 3, 2011, 16:44
The things I thought to be banal caught me in a trap.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 3, 2011, 20:37
Oh, don't you say!
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 3, 2011, 20:52
I’ve made a piece of so-called enigmatic drum loop this morning. ‘T was a bit hard. But I don’t know how to continue that thing to 4—6-minute song.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 3, 2011, 21:05
I’ve made a piece of so-called enigmatic drum loop this morning. ‘T was a bit hard. But I don’t know how to continue that thing to 4—6-minute song.
It's everbeing prob, bro. The only ones I've writen something more than two-three measures.
& now I'm trying to learn some Bach's Passacaglia.
It's... I hate Bach!
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Отправлено: Hébus от Декабря 4, 2011, 20:39
now I'm trying to learn some Bach's Passacaglia.
It's... I hate Bach!
BWV 582?
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Отправлено: Feruza от Декабря 4, 2011, 20:56
Hello!!! What are you discussing now?
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 4, 2011, 21:13
Hello!!! What are you discussing now?

Nothing so far, as far as I can see. ;) Would you like to tell anything about your new language? I could easily understand the prepositions and other auxiliary words. :yes:
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Отправлено: autolyk от Декабря 4, 2011, 22:01
Would you like to tell anything about your new language?
It is a good idea. Perhaps one will find something new, unexpected one)
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 4, 2011, 22:15
By the way, Искандер, how are you getting on with your Swedish?
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Декабря 4, 2011, 23:37
By the way, Искандер, how are you getting on with your Swedish?
or getting off  ;D
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Отправлено: iopq от Декабря 5, 2011, 03:27
Hello!!! What are you discussing now?

Nothing so far, as far as I can see. ;)
Good, good

Want to talk about something?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 5, 2011, 10:52
There is just the trad to talk about something, isn't it?
But there is a problem inhere -- every talks something quite own. Или как там "собственный" пишется :???
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 5, 2011, 10:53
My svedish is poor & totally sad, by the way. Kväs?
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 5, 2011, 11:47
But there is a problem inhere -- every talks something quite own.

It isn’t a problem. In the French thread nobody writes at all. Why should I have learned it then? >:

My svedish is poor & totally sad, by the way. Kväs?

Mine is just as poor, but hilarious. :) I’m in the mood for Scandinavian languages. Hur mår du? ;D
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 5, 2011, 12:12
Мордю. Очень мордю. But I'm soooo lazy lag.
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 5, 2011, 12:19
BTW, I’ve found wonderful Swedish-Russian and Russian-Swedish dictionaries on rutracker. They are slightly buggy applications, but very comprehensive.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 5, 2011, 13:15
you can share http any time. That's totally welcome.
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Отправлено: iopq от Декабря 6, 2011, 06:28
There is just the trad to talk about something, isn't it?
But there is a problem inhere -- every talks something quite own. Или как там "собственный" пишется :???
*thread
*herein
*everyone
*talks about their own shit
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Декабря 6, 2011, 06:35
I think these mistakes were intentional.
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Отправлено: iopq от Декабря 6, 2011, 06:36
I think these mistakes were intentional.
Damn, he sure makes a habit of intentional misspellings
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Отправлено: Demetrius от Декабря 6, 2011, 06:39
But his Russian spelling isn't better at all... ;D
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 6, 2011, 10:45
Damn, he sure makes a habit of intentional misspellings
But his Russian spelling isn't better at all... ;D
Втаки шо-то типа того.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 6, 2011, 10:46
Though theese
*thread
*everyone
are totally tentional.
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 6, 2011, 11:59
I like the ‘shit’ stuff. ;D
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 6, 2011, 12:02
Are you in copro?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 6, 2011, 12:02
This question have to be forced into LF's mem.
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 6, 2011, 12:03
Are you in copro?

Not actually. :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 6, 2011, 12:13
Not actually. :)
Omfff... that's sad.
And I am sitting in RSL & loorking through those pretty railways, trams and other stuff on tumblr. Come on with me!
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 6, 2011, 12:21
It’s romantic. :) Unfortunately, I have another business this afternoon. I’m going to teach children. (Actually, forth year students.)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 6, 2011, 12:31
I’m going to teach children. (Actually, forth year students.)
Children. 4th y-s-ns. That's the same things.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 6, 2011, 12:32
What do you deliver them?
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 6, 2011, 13:10
Some stuff about dynamical systems. It’s a special course and I’m still working on it.
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Декабря 6, 2011, 13:14
I speak English all the time. I am so tired of this disgusting poo of a langauge.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 6, 2011, 13:19
I speak English all the time. I am so tired of this disgusting poo of a langauge.
D'you want to talk about it?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 6, 2011, 13:21
It’s a special course
mastercourse show making?
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Декабря 6, 2011, 14:09
I speak English all the time.
Where? I wasn't aware English could be understood in Mari countryside  :what:
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Отправлено: autolyk от Декабря 6, 2011, 14:53
English could be understood all over the world)
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 6, 2011, 18:55
D'you want to talk about it?
ELISA⁈
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 6, 2011, 19:06
ELISA⁈
Is det an Acronym?
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Отправлено: Hellerick от Декабря 6, 2011, 19:13
ELISA⁈
Is det an Acronym?

He meant ELIZA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA), apparently.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 6, 2011, 19:36
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> Tell me more...
* I've told you everything!
> Oh...  everything?
* Yep, You are th whore
> What makes you think I am th whore?
* You look so... whory
> Oh...  look so... whory?
* Yep
> OK... "You look so... whory". Tell me more.
* exactly
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Декабря 6, 2011, 19:53
Where?
On the internets. I've already started thinking in English.
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Отправлено: dagege от Декабря 6, 2011, 19:58
me inglesh do speek, spanish no speek.

dataz muh lengwach, nay, nay, dataz inglesh, y'now.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 6, 2011, 20:27
me inglesh do speek, spanish no speek.

dataz muh lengwach, nay, nay, dataz inglesh, y'now.
dugh spiac mi ianglis, n'spiac spainis...
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Отправлено: autolyk от Декабря 6, 2011, 20:52
me inglesh do speek, spanish no speek.
dataz muh lengwach, nay, nay, dataz inglesh, y'now.
dugh spiac mi ianglis, n'spiac spainis...
Found siblings. ;D
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 6, 2011, 20:56
It’s a special course
mastercourse show making?

Pardon?
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 6, 2011, 22:54
I simply can’t stand when she sing. Ian Van Dahl I mean. Now it is quite old songs. [Now so many good things look like old so it’s hard to me not to feel same old as these. If I’m 200 instead of 20.] But I keep memories in. Memories of just only radio, and sunshine, and the only room of the previous apartment. Forever summer evening is in there. Why are they so sweet? And more, and more, and all memories alike are the Evening.
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 6, 2011, 23:35
Do you want to say she was a star in the 19th century? (Althougth in this case we wouldn’t be able to restore her voice). :)
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 7, 2011, 00:56
you can share http any time. That's totally welcome.

As I can see, you are not registered at rutracker and prefer file hostings. Varsågod:
http://depositfiles.com/files/nhyuhgz4o
It’s the Russian-Swedish one. The reverse one is just as huge, I’m going to upload it later.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 7, 2011, 05:42
As I can see, you are not registered at rutracker
But my sister is.
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 7, 2011, 12:11
Shall I upload the other dictionary as well?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 7, 2011, 13:24
Shall I upload the other dictionary as well?
Just tell where is it in rutracker/
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 7, 2011, 15:20
Do you want to say she was a star in the 19th century? (Althougth in this case we wouldn’t be able to restore her voice). :)
:D Oh no! This was In late 90s—beginning of 2000s. It was a fabulous time of lots of interesting musics. Now it seems to be not the same. Obviously, 2000 is not the same as 2010.
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 7, 2011, 17:26
Искандер, varsågod:
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3160771
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3203551

Scanned pages with a search engine.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 7, 2011, 18:14
Tack så mycket
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Отправлено: Konay от Декабря 9, 2011, 02:15
hey guys, what's up with all those spelling mistakes you do? stop that sht, I beg you! :D
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Отправлено: iopq от Декабря 9, 2011, 03:13
one doesn't do spelling mistakes, one makes them
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Отправлено: Fobee от Декабря 9, 2011, 09:05
The thread seems to have arisen from the ashes. Perfect Infinitive is a great thing.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Декабря 9, 2011, 23:44
I simply can’t stand when she sing. Ian Van Dahl I mean.
Why? What would you do when you hear she sing? Start crying?  :what:
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 10, 2011, 01:04
Offtop
Я не нашёл ничего в хорошем по умолчанию смысле с таким оттенком.
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 10, 2011, 01:09
Я не нашёл ничего в хорошем по умолчанию смысле с таким оттенком.

I didn’t find anything with positive connotation and a nuance of this kind. Is this all right? I admit I don’t understand the Russian version perfectly. ;D
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 10, 2011, 01:18
It is possibly true.
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 10, 2011, 01:20
Which nuance do you mean, BTW?
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 10, 2011, 01:28
I’m going to think about it tomorrow. Good-bye!
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Отправлено: Konay от Декабря 10, 2011, 02:14
one doesn't do spelling mistakes, one makes them

my bad, i guess russian is my first language and im kind of proud of it ;)
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Декабря 10, 2011, 18:18
I’m going to think about it tomorrow. Good-bye!
Offtop
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 10, 2011, 18:21
What are you about, guys?
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Декабря 10, 2011, 21:30
Offtop
Offtop
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Отправлено: iopq от Декабря 10, 2011, 22:09
one doesn't do spelling mistakes, one makes them

my bad, i guess russian is my first language and im kind of proud of it ;)
I remember MY first time getting corrected
just say thanks and move on
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 10, 2011, 22:43
I remember MY first time getting corrected
Aren't you mother/father-tongued?
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Отправлено: iopq от Декабря 10, 2011, 22:46
I remember MY first time getting corrected
Aren't you mother/father-tongued?
my mother tongue is Ukrainian
my first language is Russian
my native language is English
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 10, 2011, 22:49
my mother tongue is Ukrainian
my first language is Russian
my native language is English
Oh those weird soviet immigrants ::)
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Отправлено: Konay от Декабря 12, 2011, 18:54
Oh those weird soviet immigrants ::)

Well, not all of the immigrants to the English-speaking countries are native speakers of English, that I know for sure :)
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Отправлено: Konay от Декабря 12, 2011, 18:58
I remember MY first time getting corrected

Was it for the same kind of mistake?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 12, 2011, 20:20
I'm boring... :(
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 12, 2011, 20:23
By no means, you are quite hilarious! :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 12, 2011, 20:38
By no means, you are quite hilarious! :)
That you haven't seen mandibulaman yet...
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Отправлено: iopq от Декабря 13, 2011, 03:36
I remember MY first time getting corrected

Was it for the same kind of mistake?
people who are getting used to getting corrected just say thanks and move on
your response can be classified as defensive
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 14, 2011, 17:37
Today I've flied on fighter.
Well, I took off, smooth, than I'd been searching for strip to land when met the ground at speed one point two muddling up'n'down flight.
Crush...
Crush crush.
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Отправлено: iopq от Декабря 15, 2011, 03:47
*a fighter
*then
*crash
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 15, 2011, 09:47
таки есть такое слово "краш"
Пишется от именно так и используется в какчестве междометия. И в штатах его знають.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 15, 2011, 09:50
а деепричастный оборот "перепутав перевернутый и нормальный полет" нормально передан? А то вот он меня больше всего смущщает.
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Отправлено: iopq от Декабря 16, 2011, 05:08
crush это когда возмешь жетянку кокаколы и рукой сомнешь
когда самолет это crash

смысл оборота не понял, и потому комментария не было
я бы сказал "confusing upside-down and right-side-up"
speed 1.2 наверное Mach 1.2
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 16, 2011, 09:05
well, I've caught. And is it possible to explane the same thing about upside down blah blah blah in some shorter way? In russian it's just спутав перевёрнутый полёт и прямой.
And yep that was Mach of course. It's about 1000 kmph.
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Отправлено: iopq от Декабря 16, 2011, 09:48
upside-down is the most common expression, and it is NO LONGER than the Russian word перевернутый, it's only three syllables vs. five!

and of course you can say "normal" or "correct" like in Russian

I think the shortest way would be like:
I was searching for a landing strip when I met the ground at Mach 1.2 while confusing up and down
SMASH!

of course this doesn't use the past perfect, which Americans don't use that often
more correctly said it would be "I had been searching" which is also continuous, but nobody talks like that
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Отправлено: Искандер от Декабря 16, 2011, 10:37
Just to say flying plane is much more sophisticated than driving streetcar or auto.
It does totally not that you suppose it to do.
So trams are r'ly good.
And perfect progressive is too.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Декабря 16, 2011, 17:11
Offtop
Are you in copro?
mind you, they usually say into something , not "in something"  :umnik:
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 16, 2011, 17:53
mind you, they usually say into something , not "in something"  :umnik:

When no movement is meant? :-\
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Декабря 16, 2011, 23:03
mind you, they usually say into something , not "in something"  :umnik:

When no movement is meant? :-\

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Are you into UFOs,Aliens, pleiadian, spiritual ideas?

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We are a young couple who is into UFOs. We are looking to make some
 new friends who are also believers. We have a spot we know of with
 high UFO activities and want another couple to join us in our
 investigations. We just want to make new friends!
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 16, 2011, 23:33
So to be into sth is to believe in some rubbish, right?
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Декабря 16, 2011, 23:41
So to be into sth is to believe in some rubbish, right?
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are you into geometry or something?
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Are you into physics as a geek or as a profession?
;D
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 17, 2011, 00:59
If you think I can’t find out the meaning by myself, you are greatly mistaken! :P
Цитата: OALD
be into something
(informal) to be interested in something in an active way
He's into surfing in a big way.
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Отправлено: Чайник777 от Декабря 17, 2011, 01:10
No, I don't think so. Just found some funny quotes  ;D
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Отправлено: Квас от Декабря 17, 2011, 01:23
I think I’m going to remember it thanks to your quotes. :yes:
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Отправлено: rudaru от Января 1, 2012, 21:05
I think Ur questions is very actuality...  8-)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Января 1, 2012, 21:22
Facepalm 2012 takes it's first nominant...
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Отправлено: Hellerick от Января 1, 2012, 21:53
Facepalm 2012 takes its first nominee...

Fixed

I still don't understand what it was supposed to mean though.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Января 1, 2012, 21:56
I still don't understand what it was supposed to mean though.
It was ment to suppose rudaru...
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 11:26
Have bethought myself wherefor is this tread so unpopular :???
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Отправлено: Квас от Марта 24, 2012, 11:51
It’s immensely popular as compared with the International LF. :D
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Отправлено: autolyk от Марта 24, 2012, 12:02
Have you given up this fancy? :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 12:12
Have you given up this fancy?
Are you about me¿

& why not «ave you given this fancy up» — ?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Марта 24, 2012, 12:19
Are you about me¿
I said about Quasus’s International LF.
why not «ave you given this fancy up» — ?
I don’t know.. :donno:
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 12:21
HI!
That's me, Pedro. What are you speaking about?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 12:22
Quasus
Multis multa lolatus sum.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 12:23
That's me, Pedro.
¿Que tal vida? Pedro.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 12:26
¡Estoy bien! ¿Cómo te sientes?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 12:26
I don’t know.. :donno:
I heard there are some concret rules german verbs åith preps break apart, but I've never heard english verbs have such rules.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Марта 24, 2012, 12:28
I heard there are some concret rules german verbs åith preps break apart, but I've never heard english verbs have such rules.
I heard "to give up it" is more formal.
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Отправлено: Квас от Марта 24, 2012, 12:29
Have you given up this fancy? :)

By no means! Actually I’m not the sort of admin who excels in attracting people and the like, but everything is calm and quiet at least. I banned half a dozen spammers the other day even before they managed to post. 8-) I don’t know what strategy is that: they register, but put off spamming.
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Отправлено: Квас от Марта 24, 2012, 12:30
HI!
That's me, Pedro. What are you speaking about?

¡Hola, Pedro! Never mind, just flooding. :) Join us!
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 12:31
¡Estoy bien!
¡Enhorabuena! Me alegro de oir lo.
Que buen dìa para un poco oftopo.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 12:33
HI!
That's me, Pedro. What are you speaking about?

¡Hola, Pedro! Never mind, just flooding. :) Join us!
Hola. I will join you! I think Lingvoforum' s an amazing site!
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Отправлено: Квас от Марта 24, 2012, 12:33
I don’t know.. :donno:
I heard there are some concret rules german verbs åith preps break apart, but I've never heard english verbs have such rules.

A pronoun is usually inserted between the verb itself and the adverb. AFAIK this is not true about nouns (i. e. usually they are not inserted).
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 12:34
I heard "to give up it" is more formal.
May be may be. I've encountered only "Hey, give it up, you bitch!" & so on.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 12:35
AFAIK this is not true about nouns (i. e. usually they are not inserted).
Oh that's wherefor it's as it! I've cought.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 12:39
AND... WHERE IS SPANISH THEEME? :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 12:41
AND... WHERE IS SPANISH THEEME?
ahì (http://lingvoforum.net/index.php/topic,13065.25.html)
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 12:41
¡Estoy bien!
¡Enhorabuena!
¿POR QUÉ?
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 12:42
AND... WHERE IS SPANISH THEEME?
ahì (http://lingvoforum.net/index.php/topic,13065.25.html)
GRACIAS
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 12:44
¿POR QUÉ?
My spanish is muy muy worse then even english. So I meant something "That's soo good to hear you're well"
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 12:46
And now, bye-bYe!
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 12:47
Chao
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 12:48
int.lingvoforum.net — Международный ЛФ
Well I heard it's some another forum with no common accounts with this one, isn't it?
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 12:50
Chao
Oh, one more thing. Tell me please, is there ( I mean, in this forum) a girl, that has a nick Feruza?
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Отправлено: Квас от Марта 24, 2012, 12:52
int.lingvoforum.net — Международный ЛФ
Well I heard it's some another forum with no common accounts with this one, isn't it?

Absolutely. :yes:
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Отправлено: autolyk от Марта 24, 2012, 12:52
Tell me please, is there ( I mean, in this forum) a girl, that is called Feruza?
She’s banned.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 12:53
I'M REALLY SORRY. :( WHY IS SHE BANNED?
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 12:58
I'M REALLY SORRY. :( WHY IS SHE BANNED?
WAS SHE AN ILL-MANNERED, OR SPOILED GIRL IN THIS FORUM? I DON'T THINK SO.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 13:01
Oh, one more thing. Tell me please, is there ( I mean, in this forum) a girl, that has a nick Feruza?
Since this day — yep! She's back.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 13:07
 :( :( :(
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Отправлено: autolyk от Марта 24, 2012, 13:08
She's back.
I think so.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 13:13
AND... CAN YOU KEEP AWAY THE BAN?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 13:16
AND... CAN YOU KEEP AWAY THE BAN?
Well, can you resurrect deads up of their tombs?
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 24, 2012, 13:19
AND... CAN YOU KEEP AWAY THE BAN?
Well, can you resurrect deads up of their tombs?
No
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 13:20
No
Then you've just answered your question.
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Отправлено: Lodur от Марта 24, 2012, 13:26
So to be into sth is to believe in some rubbish, right?
Rather it means to be keen of something, to be a fan of something, to have some hobby. It may or may not be something rubbish.

The modern generation, unsurprisingly, are not really into stamps. (http://www.fool.co.uk/news/investing/2012/03/12/transcript-how-to-make-money-from-stamps.aspx)
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Отправлено: Lodur от Марта 24, 2012, 13:38
If you think I can’t find out the meaning by myself, you are greatly mistaken! :P
About my previous post: I'm just practicing. Didn't meant to sound like a guru. :)
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Отправлено: Квас от Марта 24, 2012, 13:43
Lodur, guru or not, thanks anyway! :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 15:08
BtW
Is that place:

Цитировать
Which reading-hall have you been at?

— good for preposition "@"?
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Отправлено: Квас от Марта 24, 2012, 15:32
I’d say it is.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Марта 24, 2012, 15:34
Chao
I have never come across such a spelling of the Italian greeting. I am familiar with the original Italian ciao and the Germanised tschau, but chao looks truly appalling. Искандер, where did you perceive that spelling?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 15:37
Искандер, where did you perceive that spelling?
I wrote it down in español orthography
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Марта 24, 2012, 15:41
I'm just practicing
Please do not consider my remark a cavil, but I feel obliged to underscore the following peculiarity: the noun is spelt practice, but the verb is practise, therefore the gerund is practising.
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Отправлено: Lodur от Марта 24, 2012, 17:00
Ellidi, thanks for correcting my American English. :) In British English it naturally should be "practising".

(Maybe, I need to change spell-check in my browser to English/United Kingdom... :))
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 24, 2012, 18:56
Some teachers will have you believe that you must not end a sentence with a preposition. Too bad that's the only thing I like to end a sentence with!
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 19:08
Some teachers will have you believe that you must not end a sentence with a preposition. Too bad that's the only thing I like to end a sentence with!
That's really the thing I have no qualms about. :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 24, 2012, 19:13
I irrevocably like german, even scandinavian sounding this postpreposition takes after.
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Марта 25, 2012, 00:11
There is somewhere missing capitals. It has to be fixed, hasn’t it?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 25, 2012, 00:45
There is somewhere missing capitals.
I supps there is no sense in the sentence. Capitals vanishes sometimes even when it's the only one capitals.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 25, 2012, 19:44
HI!
Iskander, why were you speaking Spanish with me in this topic?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 25, 2012, 19:46
HI!
Iskander, why were you speaking Spanish with me in this topic?
Coz de' LF!
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 25, 2012, 19:50
And... why are you speaking Spanish with me now? Please, speake English.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 25, 2012, 19:56
 :-\
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 25, 2012, 20:00
And... why are you speaking Spanish with me now?
Wha'!? R U shure I was?

Please, speake English.
Pray be stoping breaking brain of mine.
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Марта 26, 2012, 00:29
To be meaningless, I am.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 27, 2012, 18:11
Why, I'm asking you »WHY« there's no one completely adequate person to cosher with?
Except me of couse.
I'm so bored... I have nothing to do, nothing to hang on...
Arrrr! Bring me off sombody!
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 27, 2012, 18:26
Hi!
"Somebody", not "sombody".  ;)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 27, 2012, 18:45
"Somebody", not "sombody".  ;)
Sombody :(
That's more appeal me.
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Отправлено: Alone Coder от Марта 27, 2012, 20:03
/[z] в английском - моя больная тема. Никак не могу запомнить, где что. Есть ли смысл их вообще различать?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 27, 2012, 20:20
/[z] в английском - моя больная тема. Никак не могу запомнить, где что.
в словах с /s/ — /s/
в словах с /z/ — /z/
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 28, 2012, 05:02
/[z] в английском - моя больная тема. Никак не могу запомнить, где что.
в словах с /s/ — /s/
в словах с /z/ — /z/
но иногда /s/ - [z]
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 09:45
но иногда /s/ - [z]
А иной раз и /ʑ/
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 28, 2012, 15:21
но иногда /s/ - [z]
А иной раз и /ʑ/
это /sj/ и только в диалектах
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 15:30
Doesn't matter.
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 28, 2012, 16:30
Doesn't matter.
so's your face
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 16:33
so's your face
Som unfamiliar phrase...
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 28, 2012, 16:43
so's your face
Som unfamiliar phrase...
I'm teaching you how to speak like a child
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 17:05
I'm teaching you how to speak like a child
D'you think I need to?
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 17:21
What does the phrase "so's ur face" mean? It's strange to me.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 17:39
Det's strange to me too, but Iopq logged off.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 17:44
 :)Da way ya "speak'' is funny. Like it.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 17:50
:)Da way ya "speak'' is funny. Like it.
I'll do my best.
Quite honestly my exat speech isn't something good for english ears, bo I do my best.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 17:57
Frankly speakin I've neva spoken to an native speaker..My first langage I've learnt is German, so I practiced English with'em(Germans&Austrians) a little bit..Dat was long way back.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 17:58
an native
Wha' fa'
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 17:59
My first langage I've learnt is German
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 18:01
Jag vill språka svensk :(
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 18:01
Oh, fock! I couldn't consentrate well..There was much noise around..so I just did wha I did  :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 18:02
so I just did wha I did
"I've done" I suppose :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 18:03
«Iʼve» This apostrophe is much more better.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 18:04
Do you know for certain, your last correction is right?
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 18:05
Actually the Perfect tense dies out in the Great Immigrants's Country...
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 18:08
Do you know for certain, your last correction is right?
Iʼve always thought that depends on nothing but context.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 18:11
Actually the Perfect tense dies out in the Great Immigrants's Country...
But I understad the exact difference betåeen that having meaning now and that having no.

And I really donʼt care of them all.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 18:12
"Meine/Die erste Sprache, die ich gelernt habe, ist Deutsch". That's wha I meant. But it doesn't matter..
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 18:13
I cought then.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 18:16
You mean you got/understood it? That's fine.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 18:20
I dunno why but I'm stumblin all the way tonite. I mean using English on forums. Probably dat was a long day for me, da brain's fallin apart :).
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Марта 28, 2012, 18:24
I couldn't consentrate well..
concentrate, con- (cum) + centrum (centre).
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 18:25
You're right of course..I should've checked it by the German verb "konzentrieren",but I didn't.. :yes:
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 18:36
I dunno why but I'm stumblin all the way tonite. I mean using English on forums. Probably dat was a long day for me, da brain's fallin apart :).
Åhere are you?

should've
they say det have must be full.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 18:47
Now I'm home :) I've heard and seen this way of pronunciation and writing in several movies I watched with subtitles.. I should've..you must've etc..
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 18:56
Now I'm home :)
Wich time zone I wonder!
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 19:05
On my watch it's 23.05  :) Rather late..
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 19:57
On my watch it's 23.05  :) Rather late..
Itʼs 19-57 @ Bagdad.
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Отправлено: Hellerick от Марта 28, 2012, 19:59
On my watch it's 23.05
Beijing time is the best time  :UU:
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 20:01
Thatʼs time for afterparty! Yo-yo!
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 20:04
Oh, gosh..Wha brought U there? Are U on a mission? It's quite a distance! Baghdad? Really or have I missed the point?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 20:06
Oh, gosh..Wha brought U there? On a mission? It's quite a distance!
hey hey!
Did you knoå? Moscow lives @ 4+ GMT Bagdad time zone.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 20:08
I've just been misled by @Bagdad  :D It cleared up by now.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 20:23
I think I gotta hit the sack..My time's up. You guys take over the night shift on the forum. Don't let its lights go down till the next shift of another time zone steps in. :) /kidding/
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 20:28
Donʼt understand whatʼs posted there over...
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 20:32
Could U point out the sentanse you can't understand?
I've just been misled by @Bagdad  :D It cleared up by now.

This?
I meant some kinda: The word Baghdad with the sign @ caused my misunderstanding, but now I know what U've meant.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 20:39
Could U point out the sentanse
You guys take over the night shift on the forum. Don't let its lights go down till the next shift of another time zone steps in.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 28, 2012, 20:49

Could U point out the sentanse
It's OK with "point out"http://www.babylon.com/definition/point_out/English
http://ru.bab.la/словарь/английский-русский/point-out (http://ru.bab.la/%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C/%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9/point-out)
You guys take over the night shift on the forum. Don't let its lights go down till the next shift of another time zone steps in. :) /kidding/
Парни,принимайте ночную смену на форуме. Не давайте его огням погаснуть пока следущая смена другого часового пояса не заступит)) Короче,не спите..
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 20:59
Мне бы было более понятно слово turn or maybe tour... Теперь буду знать, что ещё shift называют
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Отправлено: Квас от Марта 28, 2012, 21:08
Jag vill språka svensk :(

Jag med.

«Iʼve» This apostrophe is much more better.

Det tror jag också. :yes: How do you produce it?

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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 21:11
How do you produce it?
I use qåerty layout by Ickander.
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Отправлено: Квас от Марта 28, 2012, 21:12
How do you produce it?
I use qåerty layout by Ickander.

I see. A nice apostrophe and an odd-looking w. :D
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Марта 28, 2012, 21:17
London is the capital of Great Britain. Ey up govna gizza fag. Bloody bugger. 10 million Brits love fags.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 21:18
I see. A nice apostrophe and an odd-looking w. :D
It was made for my conlang once. In new version Iʼve added new upper row: ʼ!()№%/&*[]-=
and some symbols on dead key: \ʼ¡«»\№\%\/\&\*{}\—.
W became such a lilla skönhet coz my conlang hasnʼt w but has å and other english letters.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 21:21
London is the capital of Great Britain. Ey up govna gizza fag. Bloody bugger. 10 million Brits love fags.
Nga, youʼre adrunk again my sodden friend. Leave Greenʼs account and go to ainus!
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Марта 28, 2012, 21:38
Nga, youʼre adrunk my sodden friend. Go to ainus!
London is the capital of Great Britain. I am not Ngati.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 21:55
London is the capital of Great Britain. I am not Ngati.
Then, maybe Côtè?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 28, 2012, 21:57
go to ainus!
Sounds good, by the way. Espec when slurring «i»
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 29, 2012, 04:01
What does the phrase "so's ur face" mean? It's strange to me.
So's your face
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 08:24
So's your face
We donʼt know such an idiome.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 08:59
Itʼs overcast today outside, and I consider it is rather better.
It all wallows in a shady light, all is rersting under cloudy shelter.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 09:59
So's your face
We donʼt know such an idiome.

Same here. But it seems like answering back if someone calls U names... :??? Did I hit the mark?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 10:20
Donno. Iʼm going to read some Svenska.

BTW, what dʼyou think on my piece of poetry¿
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 12:50
This piece sounds fairly good to my ears, I'd say it just fits my mood today, although we've got some different weather over here  :)
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Отправлено: Borovik от Марта 29, 2012, 12:52
Maksim, what's the weather like in your realms?
Blizzard? Ice breaking? Snowdrops blooming?
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 13:03
Now it's +12 degrees in the shade :) the weather is everything but cold..it's very sunny in Abakan, a little bit windy.. And there's almost no snow left (only some rare small heaps under trees). No pools, all's melted and dried up 4-5 days ago))
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 13:04
Blizzard? Ice breaking? Snowdrops blooming?
Ponies, rainbow-pieces shitting...

"Realms" is real word.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 13:04
And there's almost no snow left (only some rare small heaps under trees).
And we have alot of.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 13:07
And what town/city do you keep in?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 13:10
And what town/city do you keep in?
ʻkeep inʼ isnʼt good word inspite Iʼm kept home deday.
I live in Noginsk.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 13:14
An American asked me in YouTube "where do you keep?" And when I asked'em what he meant he's just said: Where do you live?"... It's some informal way of speakin, I believe..
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 13:19
Я так понял, это типа нашего сленгового "где ты обретаешься?"(где ты живёшь?)
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Отправлено: Borovik от Марта 29, 2012, 13:23
And what town/city do you keep in?
I keep  :) in Moscow, but my soul has stayed forever in my home place in the Urals
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 13:23
Я так понял, это типа нашего сленгового "где ты обретаешься?"(где ты живёшь?)
As for me, that is «where do they lock you in».

Cловарь вон тоже даёт: оставлять после уроков, оставлять больного на постельный режим, поддерживать огонь, сдерживать эмоции, so on so on...
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 13:25
I keep  :) in Moscow, but my soul has stayed forever in my home place in the Urals
Anyway souls tend to hover thereover we were young happy boysʼnʼgirls.
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Отправлено: Borovik от Марта 29, 2012, 13:31
Well, there are different types of souls among those seconded to this planet
I've met some which sought to move to large cities albeit born into living beings in rural communities...
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 13:35
It's correct.. Earlier the verb "to keep" was transitive(to keep someone/something)..But now it can be both transitive and intransitive, but I think you perfectly know that, just some assotiations left..I got'em too..as if they keep smb. like a dog locked in  :)
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Отправлено: Borovik от Марта 29, 2012, 13:36
or a soul locked in a body  :(
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 13:39
If I got the point, U like big cities but U were born to a small town or a village.Am I right? Now U r being torn apart between'em..
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 13:40
Well, there are different types of souls among those seconded to this planet
I've met some which sought to move to large cities albeit born into living beings in rural communities...
My one likes to travel one place another, from some big city to some countryside.
There are places she returns time to time. And I suppose one place she shall leave for for forever when I shall be buried.


BTW, Itʼs snowing now at my place. LoL!
April comes!
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 13:43
At this very moment I'm beggin God to give my republic some more time of cold..Coz our summer is sometimes extremely hot.. 35degrees above null drive me nuts!! And I wanna enjoy the spring's weather and wear some spring's coats))) Otherwise I bought'em in vain... :)
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Отправлено: Borovik от Марта 29, 2012, 13:46
If I got the point, U like big cities but U were born to a small town or a village.Am I right? Now U r being torn apart between'em..
Quite the reverse.
I was born in a village in the mountains, and that's where my soul resides, and that's the place I hope I will snuff it.
It's my misfortune that I have to dwell in nasty stinky warren places like Moscow
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Отправлено: Borovik от Марта 29, 2012, 13:52
At this very moment I'm beggin God to give my republic some more time of cold..
God knows better what's good for your republic. better don't vex Him over small stuff...
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 13:55
It's my misfortune that I have to dwell in nasty stinky warren places like Moscow
You can live it with joice. It depends on your own attitude.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 13:59
Quite the reverse.
I was born in a village in the mountains, and that's where my soul resides, and that the place I hope I will snuff it.
It's my misfortune that I have to dwell in nasty stinky warren places like Moscow
Clear now.. I've neva been to big cities like Moscow but I'm not sorry bout the fact)) I'd like to go there to take a trip as a tourist, not to stay there as a resident or as a worker.
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Отправлено: Borovik от Марта 29, 2012, 14:10
It's my misfortune that I have to dwell in nasty stinky warren places like Moscow
You can live it with joice. It depends on your own attitude.
Nah
it's a lower-level stuff
Another option is to arrange my life so I don't live here any longer
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Марта 29, 2012, 14:29
Who is on the duty today?
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 14:38
I'm off duty today..And very happy about the fact  :) And the article in the phrase "be on the duty" is not necessary, is it?  :???
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Отправлено: autolyk от Марта 29, 2012, 14:38
Who is on the duty today?
Why do you use a definite article?
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Отправлено: Borovik от Марта 29, 2012, 14:39
Normally you don't
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Марта 29, 2012, 14:50
Sorry, I haven't learnt English in school.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 14:53
It happens to everyone..We all learn it  ;)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 14:57
Iʼm out of duty today yeah-yeah!
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 14:59
Congratulations! :UU: Join the club!
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Марта 29, 2012, 15:03
Articles and gender are evil, isn't it?
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 15:04
Especially for us, turkic speaking men  :yes:
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Отправлено: Borovik от Марта 29, 2012, 15:06
Congratulations! :UU: Join the club!
What is this - the club of Turkic speakers writing in English?   8-)
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 15:08
Congratulations! :UU: Join the club!
That was said to the people being off duty.. :) And this:
Especially for us, turkic speaking men  :yes:
to the people having trouble with articles and gender..All's on hand)
Saying "turkic" I meant namely Turkic speakers and not Turkish speakers..but I believe you got the point.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 15:15
I have already joined.
But I donʼt have the toilet throne... thatʼs a disadvantage.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 15:19
I wouldn't refuse it too: (Google) toilet+throne (http://www.google.ru/imgres?imgurl=http://www.trendir.com/archives/Herbeau-toilet.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.trendir.com/archives/000033.html&h=418&w=350&sz=37&tbnid=AlT1hrhNZzwpoM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=75&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtoilet%2Bthrone%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=toilet+throne&docid=U026J7NbdOQv1M&sa=X&ei=u0R0T_yWAY3zsgbhq6HPDQ&ved=0CCoQ9QEwAQ&dur=2975)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 15:22
I wouldn't refuse it too: (Google) toilet+throne
Oh, I didnʼt have in mind literally throne... I ment an ordinary bowl.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 15:26
 :E:
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Марта 29, 2012, 15:34
I didn't get it (
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 29, 2012, 15:37
What exactly?
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Марта 29, 2012, 15:39
About the throne.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 15:41
Whatʼs so funny!
Try it yourself to withstand for 12 hours without any sanitary things...
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Отправлено: Borovik от Марта 29, 2012, 16:25
Искандер, you're having trouble since you need to use the toilet but it's not available in the place you are now. Is that what you are trying to say?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 16:34
you're having trouble since you need to use the toilet but it's not available in the place you are now. Is that what you are trying to say?
Yep. The situation is Iʼm @ home.

But all comes better. Theyʼve finished installation of a new throne.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Марта 29, 2012, 16:40
Your home doesn't have a toilet?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 16:42
Your home doesn't have a toilet?
My home has a reconstruction.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Марта 29, 2012, 16:45
Cool. Is it costly?
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Отправлено: Borovik от Марта 29, 2012, 16:47
Theyʼve finished installation of a new throne.
Wow!
Happy new throne! Many happy returns!   ;D
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 29, 2012, 16:48
Is it costly?
We havenʼt anything to eat.
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 29, 2012, 16:54
So's your face
We donʼt know such an idiome.

Same here. But it seems like answering back if someone calls U names... :??? Did I hit the mark?
пин пон!
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Марта 29, 2012, 21:26
I demand the continuation of the banquet!
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Отправлено: autolyk от Марта 29, 2012, 21:36
You’re absolutely right, the show must go on.
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Марта 30, 2012, 22:53
Must dust cast a vast?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 30, 2012, 22:57
Must dust cast a vast?
Должна ли пыль швырять тяжести?
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 31, 2012, 00:26
Какие тяжести?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 31, 2012, 00:47
Какие тяжести?
vast ~ много широко тяжело пространно многочисленно.
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 31, 2012, 12:04
Какие тяжести?
vast ~ много широко тяжело пространно многочисленно.
не тяжести а пространства
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 31, 2012, 12:06
To hurl spaces? That's much more meaningfull everyway.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 31, 2012, 17:19
Hi!
Цитировать
... Un poco oftopo...
Искандер,
I think , that you like making offtops, but I don't.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 31, 2012, 17:21
I think , that you like to make offtops, but I don't.
And what?
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 31, 2012, 17:22
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 31, 2012, 17:49
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
Youʼve done oʼtop here rather then I.
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 31, 2012, 18:51
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
rubbish is not a countable object
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 31, 2012, 18:55
How come U say Искандер likes to make offtops, seňor Pedro? :) El "topico" se llama "Let's speak English!",verdad?..If someone express himself using English it's hardly possible to say he makes any offtops here, I think  ;)
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 31, 2012, 18:58
I don't think I've seen Iskander speak English yet
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 31, 2012, 19:04
I think U perfectly know what the word "speak" can mean on forums..
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 31, 2012, 19:05
I don't think I've seen Iskander speak English yet
May I hit you?
Also that would be more british to  use gerund  «speaking» there. So youʼre not good too.
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 31, 2012, 19:14
I don't think I've seen Iskander speak English yet
May I hit you?
Also that would be more british to  use gerund  «speaking» there. So youʼre not good too.
See? I have no idea what the fuck he just said

How the fuck am I supposed to use "speaking" here?
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 31, 2012, 19:22
I suppose he meant that you can't "see" him, nor can he "hit'' you, as this is virtual communication.. :) And frankly speaking I believe it's about time to cool down for both of you ;)
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 31, 2012, 19:24
I suppose he meant that you can't "see" him, nor can he "hit'' you, as this is virtual communication.. :) And frankly speaking I believe it's about time to cool down for you both  ;)
он мне сказал что я не благо

I've long given up on him
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 31, 2012, 19:29
Может быть, но мне видится,что он скорее имел в виду "таким образом, ты тоже не так уж хорош (в английском)"-"so you're not good (at English) too"...
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 31, 2012, 19:31
Кидайте мне деньги через webmoney за интерпритаторскую деятельность)))) /just kidding/
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 31, 2012, 19:34
Во-первых, если он это имел в виду, тогда он должен сказать "You're not that good either"
Во-вторых, откуда он знает что правильно? Сначало надо самому одно грамотное предложение написать.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 31, 2012, 19:42
Во-первых, если он это имел в виду, тогда он должен сказать "You're not that good either"
Это ещё надо посмотреть... Разговорный стиль допускает подобные отклонения (бывают и пострашнее made by the Natives). Но формально, Вы правы..
Во-вторых, откуда он знает что правильно? Сначало надо самому одно грамотное предложение написать.
Ему и не надо знать, коль скоро Вы оба перешли на личности и отбросили в сторону конструктивное аргументирование..
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 31, 2012, 19:46
Да,если честно, зачем так всем накаляться..Мы ж тут все практикуемся, в какой-то мере учимся..It would be far better just to drop it and discuss something more interesting..
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 31, 2012, 19:49
Проблема в том что слово "too" означает membership of the same group
For the absence of membership in the same group of being good it doesn't fit

If he had said "You're pretty bad too" I would accept that, although "You're pretty bad yourself" sounds better
Second, the absense of any qualifier before "good" is very telling
It is not colloquial style at all, because usually it is inserted in speech

Even in Russian I would say "Сам ты не так уж и хорош" and saying "Сам не хорош тоже" seems gross
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 31, 2012, 19:53
Ну да.. "you're not so good"/"you're not that good" для уха звучит привычней..
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 31, 2012, 20:02
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...seňor Pedro...
Pedro Enrique García (my real name)

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El "topico" se llama "Let's speak English!",verdad?..
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I prefer speaking English, not Spanish in this forum. Please, speak English with me ,too.
Be aware of this.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Марта 31, 2012, 20:09
Pedro Enrique García (my real name)
There are lots of Pedroes in Brazil. :)
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 31, 2012, 20:11
But I'm not from Brazil. I'm Spanish. I'm from Sevilla.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Марта 31, 2012, 20:18
Really? I would never guess there's a real Spaniard "hidden" behind this nickname .. :) No problem, we mostly do use English here..Besides I'm a poor hand at Spanish))
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Отправлено: autolyk от Марта 31, 2012, 20:20
But I'm not from Brazil. I'm Spanish. I'm from Sevilla.
It was a greeting to Feruza)
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Отправлено: Pedro от Марта 31, 2012, 20:24
But I'm not from Brazil. I'm Spanish. I'm from Sevilla.
It was a greeting to Feruza)
I didn't understand...
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 31, 2012, 20:59
Even in Russian I would say "Сам ты не так уж и хорош" and saying "Сам не хорош тоже" seems gross
And I also can say «сам туда же» and so on.
Anyway, youʼre welcom when criticize me constructively, but not when you inject that «Heʼs ololo Iʼm trololo».
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 31, 2012, 21:03
I've long given up on him
Вот кстати ни один фразеологический словарь не помог распарсить.
Что-то типа «Мне глубоко забить на него» — ?
Не надо на меня забивать, я на самом деле хороший.
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Отправлено: Sudarshana от Марта 31, 2012, 21:43
Iskander, if you listened to more Gaga's songs this phrasal verb would be familiar to you: "i'm gonna marry the night. i won't give up on my life"
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 31, 2012, 21:50
And åhere can I see the meaning?
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Отправлено: Sudarshana от Марта 31, 2012, 21:59
my abby lingvo cites two examples: one is translated with "махнуть рукой" and the other - with "отчаяться"
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Отправлено: Квас от Марта 31, 2012, 22:34
BTW, Искандер, why do you use U+02BC ‘modifier letter apostrophe’ rather than U+2019 ‘right single quotation mark’, the latter being the Unicode standard apostrophe?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 31, 2012, 22:43
BTW, Искандер, why do you use U+02BC ‘modifier letter apostrophe’ rather than U+2019 ‘right single quotation mark’, the latter being the Unicode standard apostrophe?

 U+2019 åas too far in the table. Also, U+02BC is a letter, and U+2019 is a punctuation mark, so the first will not break the word when in the middle while the second will.
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Отправлено: Квас от Марта 31, 2012, 22:51
Sometimes I wonder if I really should use all these non-ASCII symbols. :-\ Perhaps there may be other points of view. For example, like in TeX: one conventionally puts ' as the apostrophe and gets a perfect apostrophe in the output.

Do you think it’s very important to use ‘right symbols’ in plain text?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 31, 2012, 22:57
Do you think it’s very important to use ‘right symbols’ in plain text?
I think itʼs good when it looks like it have to look. When we take a book, some well-published book, we see «ʼ», not «'», when apostrophe and «'» when feet.
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Отправлено: iopq от Марта 31, 2012, 23:36
I've long given up on him
Вот кстати ни один фразеологический словарь не помог распарсить.
Что-то типа «Мне глубоко забить на него» — ?
Не надо на меня забивать, я на самом деле хороший.
give up - сдаваться

типа я уже сдаюсь, he is a lost cause
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Отправлено: Искандер от Марта 31, 2012, 23:43
типа я уже сдаюсь, he is a lost cause
Certainly I should hit you... Iʼm aggrieved.
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Отправлено: Квас от Марта 31, 2012, 23:53
Do you think it’s very important to use ‘right symbols’ in plain text?
I think itʼs good when it looks like it have to look. When we take a book, some well-published book, we see «ʼ», not «'», when apostrophe and «'» when feet.

On one hand, you seem to be right. On the other hand, the outlook of a text is the question of typesetting and not of encoding. It just occurred to me that in certain situations a conventional use of symbols might be more convenient.

I don’t know quite well what I want to say.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 1, 2012, 00:09
What odd language is it, that people started to use on this forum recently, and that mocks English?
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 1, 2012, 00:18
Never mind. It’s a local variety of English. Would you like to write a descriptive grammar?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 1, 2012, 00:28
It’s a local variety of English.
Meseems it’s an individual variety of English. :)
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 1, 2012, 00:32
Have you noticed that they change the English adjectives on -ive into -if? My eyes!
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 1, 2012, 00:41
Have you noticed that they change the English adjectives on -ive into -if? My eyes!
Who do that?
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 1, 2012, 00:43
Those who write Bien sur instead of Well sure! :)
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Отправлено: Sudarshana от Апреля 1, 2012, 00:46
Who do that?
Those who love conjugation.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 1, 2012, 00:52
Let's say to them: "Let's speak English!" ;D
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 1, 2012, 00:53
Who do that?
Froggies do.
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Отправлено: Sudarshana от Апреля 1, 2012, 00:53
Let's say to them: "Let's speak English!" ;D
We do. When we're too lazy to think :)
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 1, 2012, 04:02
типа я уже сдаюсь, he is a lost cause
Certainly I should hit you... Iʼm aggrieved.
You mad?
Come at me, bro
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 1, 2012, 10:43
You mad?
Come at me, bro
Actually Iʼm really alittle mad.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Апреля 1, 2012, 11:02
Guys, what do you think about unusual usage of the Present Continious? As we all know there are three main and simple ways to let someone know that an event or action takes place in the future:
1) using the Future Simple: he will work
2) using the structure "is/are going to +verb": he's going to take you home
3) using the Present Simple: he comes tomorrow noon
But how about cases like this?  "I'm not moving from here until I'm satisfied the hunt for me is over" или "he's coming here tomorrow night to talk to you"
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 1, 2012, 11:05
It will be quite normal in Swedish. But I canʼt say anything about English.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 1, 2012, 11:11
Future meaning of present tenses is not uncommon in the Germanic languages. The Present Continuous indicates that there is a plan. If I’m not mistaken, the Present Simple is not so widespread.
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Отправлено: Borovik от Апреля 1, 2012, 12:00
But how about cases like this?  "I'm not moving from here until I'm satisfied the hunt for me is over" или "he's coming here tomorrow night to talk to you"
check your grammar book. This use of pr cont is explicitly described
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 1, 2012, 12:04
But how about cases like this?  "I'm not moving from here until I'm satisfied the hunt for me is over" или "he's coming here tomorrow night to talk to you"
Цитата: A Communicative Grammar
The present progressive is used for future events resulting from a present plan, pogramme, or arrangement:
We’re inviting several people to a party.
Next they’re playing a piece by Schubert.
We’re having fish for dinner

Like be going to, this construction (especially when there is no time adverbial) often suggests the near future.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 5, 2012, 20:38
Hi, amigos! (offtoping-rubbishing) :)
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
rubbish is not a countable object
Thanks. And... is the word "police" a countable object?
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 5, 2012, 22:44
Hi, amigos! (offtoping-rubbishing) :)
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
rubbish is not a countable object
Thanks. And... is the word "police" a countable object?
no
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 6, 2012, 09:04
Hello!
Hi, amigos! (offtoping-rubbishing) :)
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
rubbish is not a countable object
Thanks. And... is the word "police" a countable object?
no
Thank you
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 6, 2012, 11:49
Hello!
Hi, amigos! (offtoping-rubbishing) :)
And I think, that it's like a rubbish.
rubbish is not a countable object
Thanks. And... is the word "police" a countable object?
no
Thank you
There's no for what  ;D
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 6, 2012, 12:29
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Ukrailish
I didn't understand...
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 6, 2012, 17:08
Ucrainian + English
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 6, 2012, 17:39
 :???
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 6, 2012, 21:18
What’s wrong?
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 7, 2012, 10:33
Hi!
Nothing wrong. But... I didn't understand, what does it mean Ukrainian+English? This language exists?

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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 7, 2012, 11:48
Try to substitute Spanish words for English ones in your speach, and you’ll get Spanglish. Essentially it’s the same phenomenon.
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 7, 2012, 12:07
Hi!
Nothing wrong. But... I didn't understand, what does it mean Ukrainian+English? This language exists?
it's called code-switching

when you speak several languages you can switch between them in conversation, even in the same предложении
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 7, 2012, 12:56
even in the same предложении
Is it Ukrailish?
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 7, 2012, 13:33
And now, Goodbye! :)
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 7, 2012, 23:34
even in the same предложении
Is it Ukrailish?
that was Russlish
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 7, 2012, 23:35
that was Russlish
Or runglish?
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 8, 2012, 09:23
Hi, amigos!
Let's speak about Spainglish, Russlish, Ukrailish etc.  Tell me please, can the first sentence (I mean, in this message) be in Spainglish?
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 8, 2012, 10:03
Claro que yes
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 8, 2012, 12:18
Claro que yes
It's también (also) Spainglish.
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Ukrailish
¿Por qué not Ukrainglish?
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 8, 2012, 12:21
Business not it that to mix words from two languages, but sooner in that to take from one vocabulary, from the other syntax.
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Отправлено: Hellerick от Апреля 8, 2012, 12:24
Claro que yes

In Spanglish it's "Clear that yes".
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 8, 2012, 12:29
Good when two quite different English words are translated in mother tongue with one and the same word. Then one can do lexical errors mixing these words. Other lexical errors also can be.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Апреля 8, 2012, 12:35
Good when [...] Other lexical errors also can be.
Runglish displeases me strongly. As do Denglish and Franglais.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 8, 2012, 12:37
Oh det är so mindbending syntax, Quaso...
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 8, 2012, 12:39
Runglish displeases me strongly. As do Denglish and Franglais.
Quasus posted that just with tongue in cheek.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 8, 2012, 13:40
Goodbye forever!
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 8, 2012, 14:21
Fare thee well, and if for ever, still for ever fare thee well.
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 8, 2012, 14:39
Good when [...] Other lexical errors also can be.
Runglish displeases me strongly
Your terse style is grating; moreso than any Runglish.

I can't really say much more; grammatically your sentence was correct - although you decided to put a period in the middle instead of a semicolon - but I didn't like it stylistically.
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Отправлено: Passer-by от Апреля 8, 2012, 21:18
I felt like posting some stuff here to practise my poor English a bit.

Today I finally made up my mind to buy two books I'd been dreaming about for a long time.
They're 'Advanced Grammar in Use' and 'English Vocabulary in Use: Advanced'. The latter is a real mindf*ck. I bleeding don't know these lousy words (such as 'be adjacent to'/'adjoin', 'abdicate', 'abscond', etc.) :(
What is more, I'm taking part in a Whole Russian Olympiad in English next week, so I've got to have really broad knowledge. :( I don't though...
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 8, 2012, 21:27
Whole Russian?
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Отправлено: Passer-by от Апреля 8, 2012, 21:57
Aforesaid Runglish manifested itself. :(
All-Russian?? (всероссийская)
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 8, 2012, 21:59
'English Vocabulary in Use: Advanced'.

What is this? A guide to elaborate writing/eloquent speaking?
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Апреля 8, 2012, 22:13
'be adjacent to'/'adjoin', 'abdicate', 'abscond'
Nice words. :) There are many more of them, such as propensity, obsequious, exonerate, præponderate, pusillanimous and so on. I adore them. They are of Latin origin, therefore knowing Latin facilitates their compræhension.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 8, 2012, 22:14
English must be cleared from many Latin words!
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Отправлено: Oleg Grom от Апреля 8, 2012, 22:15
English must be cleared from many Latin words!
First of all from French words.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 8, 2012, 22:15
Nice words. :) There are many more of them, such as propensity, obsequious, exonerate, preponderate, pusillanimous and so on. I adore them.
I totally canʼt understand them...
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Апреля 8, 2012, 22:24
English must be cleared from many Latin words!
—1 Au contraire, English must be imbued with an abundance of more Latin words. :)
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Отправлено: Passer-by от Апреля 8, 2012, 22:25
'English Vocabulary in Use: Advanced'.

What is this? A guide to elaborate writing/eloquent speaking?
http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/3950694/

From 'To the student' section
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Why was this book written?
Itw as written to help you to improve your English vocabulary and to take you to an advanced level of knowledge of English words and phrases. It will help you to learn not only the meanings of words but also how they are used, how the y combine with one another (collocate), and how they form longer expressions. It will help you to distinguish better among the large number of words you already know and the new ones we introduce you to.
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Why was this book written?
Itw as written to help you to improve your English vocabulary and to take you to an advanced level of knowledge of English words and phrases. It will help you to learn not only the meanings of words but also how they are used, how the y combine with one another (collocate), and how they form longer expressions. It will help you to distinguish better among the large number of words you already know and the new ones we introduce you to.

I think now I understand. Of course, it would be natural to acquire the vocabulary just using the language (first of all, through reading and through active use). On the other hand, I confess I’m prone myself to scholastic studies of this kind, when words are considered as the end in themselves.
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Отправлено: Passer-by от Апреля 8, 2012, 23:28
I see but now I've got to cram for this competition.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 8, 2012, 23:50
Good luck!
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Апреля 9, 2012, 00:20
Good night!
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 9, 2012, 15:54
Good afternoon! my dear friends. Does anybody here?
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 9, 2012, 16:03
Good afternoon! my dear friends. Does anybody here?
I assume you meant to ask if anyone hears.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Апреля 9, 2012, 16:10
Good afternoon! my dear friends. Does anybody here?
I assume you meant to ask if anyone hears.
iorq, what you've just done is usually called "you are busting his balls''(informal). But in Russian quite harmless "подшутил/подколол/подъ..пал".. :)
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 9, 2012, 16:12
Good afternoon! my dear friends. Does anybody here?
I assume you meant to ask if anyone hears.
iorq, what you've just done is usually called "you are busting his balls''(informal)
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Апреля 9, 2012, 16:15
I didn't mean any offence.. :) Just called things what they are.. :tss:
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 9, 2012, 16:36
I assume you meant to ask if anyone hears.
Just to say, I wrote first «heare», but changed then
Was I wrong?
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Апреля 9, 2012, 16:40
All's cleared up finally..  "Is anybody here?"/"Does anybody hear?" /iorq,sorry for being tough/
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 10, 2012, 02:11
I assume you meant to ask if anyone hears.
Just to say, I wrote first «heare»
and wtf is that
is that pseudo-Ald-Anglisc like "Olde Englishe"?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 10, 2012, 10:26
What can I say... that's my knoledge of spelling. May be It isn't so good but it's the only I have.
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Отправлено: Sudarshana от Апреля 10, 2012, 13:37
the only I have
the only one I have
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Апреля 10, 2012, 14:04
the only I have
the only one I have
Тафтологично, но афсолютно берно с точки зрения нормы англ.яза.."единственное одно, что я имею". В этом и состоит минус пиджинов..Эдакая никому не сдавшаяся логическая завершённость всякой фразы..Но мы должны это "схавать"..
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 10, 2012, 15:06
English is not a pidgin. 8-)
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Апреля 10, 2012, 15:48
..."-a man said.
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Апреля 10, 2012, 20:26
English is not a pidgin but a creol.

Maksim, does your messages’ interlacing mean a special offer?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 10, 2012, 20:32
English is not a creole too.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 10, 2012, 20:47
English is not a creole too.
as well

am I right?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 10, 2012, 20:54
am I right?
No, you’re not. One may say «too» in the end of a sentence. 
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 10, 2012, 21:04
What about neither/either?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 10, 2012, 21:11
Why not? English is not a creole either.
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Отправлено: Sudarshana от Апреля 10, 2012, 21:11
English is not a creole too.
I would say "either"
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Отправлено: Марбол от Апреля 10, 2012, 21:45
Good afternoon!

Today I met two Holland girls in metro on my way home, they tried to get Sennaya station. While guiding them on the right way, we were talking about the city, and what did they come to St-Petersburg for, and what do they do in Holland. One of them 'studies literature', she said. I asked, if it was philology, by she answered, 'this is a language, we don't study any language at all'. I asked, if they study authors, heroys, texts? And the girl replied, yes: they read and analyse literatures of different countries.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 10, 2012, 22:19
One of them 'studies literature', she said. I asked, if it was philology, by she answered, 'this is a language, we don't study any language at all'.
Wow, I. G. was right in the definition argument.
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Отправлено: Марбол от Апреля 10, 2012, 23:23
One of them 'studies literature', she said. I asked, if it was philology, by she answered, 'this is a language, we don't study any language at all'.
I am Sorry, it shall be replaced with 'but', 'but she answered' & so on.
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 10, 2012, 23:24
am I right?
No, you’re not. One may say «too» in the end of a sentence.
"either" is more correct
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 10, 2012, 23:25
Good afternoon!

Today I met two Holland girls in metro on my way home, they tried to get Sennaya station. While guiding them on the right way, we were talking about the city, and what did they come to St-Petersburg for, and what do they do in Holland. One of them 'studies literature', she said. I asked, if it was philology, by she answered, 'this is a language, we don't study any language at all'. I asked, if they study authors, heroys, texts? And the girl replied, yes: they read and analyse literatures of different countries.
nobody has the same definition of philology as the Russian universities do

in fact we don't have any "philology" in the States at all, I have not heard this word used ever
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Апреля 11, 2012, 18:23
English is not a pidgin but a creol.

Maksim, does your messages’ interlacing mean a special offer?
Take it as a joke ;) In fact I do understand that English is a very simplified language..and it would be stupid to expect that there would be further facilitating moments like unfull constractions. In case there would I'd call such a language just primitive.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 11, 2012, 18:28
Oh you are soooo wrong. English isnʼt primitive at all, our knoledges of English are primitive.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Апреля 11, 2012, 18:39
I said: "In case there would I'd call such a language just primitive"..I didn't call it primitive yet.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 11, 2012, 19:00
I said: "In case there would I'd call such a language just primitive"..I didn't call it primitive yet.
Oh well.
Moreover Iʼve said I have to say thatʼs totally elefant-breeding to use the collocation «primitive language».
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Отправлено: arseniiv от Апреля 11, 2012, 19:29
Offtop
Iskander, you’ve misspelled word knowledge  two times in total.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Апреля 11, 2012, 20:45
I asked, if it was philology, by she answered, 'this is a language, we don't study any language at all'.
Ah wellaway (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wellaway#Interjection)...
I asked, if they study authors, heroys, texts? And the girl replied, yes: they read and analyse literatures of different countries.
All translated into Dutch (or English)?  :o This cannot be true! There is a plethora of illustrious, unsurpassable authors whose works were never translated into English (let alone into Dutch): Slovene and Croatian modernism, major Serbian and Bulgarian authors, from the Russian authors Leonid Andreyev (Russian expressionism), Fyodor Sologub, Vasili Rozanov, Danish symbolism... The profound and thorough study of Europæan literature will be præcluded, unless one learns at least one Romance, one Slavic (the biggest, Russian) and one North Germanic language. This knowledge is indispensable, lest one remain at loss with regard to multifarious invaluable masterpieces of Europæan literature (of the Romance, North Germanic and Slavic peoples + German literature).
nobody has the same definition of philology as the Russian universities do

in fact we don't have any "philology" in the States at all, I have not heard this word used ever
The lasses in quæstion were Dutch. Holland is somewhere between the USA and Russia, so applying US criterion to them is nowhere near justified.
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 11, 2012, 22:29
Iskander, you’ve misspelled word knowledge  two
times in total
Offtop
And in addition, this noun is uncountable and not used in plural.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 11, 2012, 22:43
RockyRaccoon, what a wonderful nick! :) Even now I hear the Beatles in my head when I read your messages.
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 11, 2012, 22:54

RockyRaccoon, what a wonderful nick!  Even
now I hear the Beatles in my head when I read your messages.
Thanks a lot! At last there’s a man who knows and understands... Unfortunately, some forum members think that this is an Amerindian name that I assumed.
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 11, 2012, 23:01
Wow, Amerindian. :green:
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Отправлено: Марбол от Апреля 11, 2012, 23:03
Thanks a lot! At last there’s a man who knows and understands... Unfortunately, some forum members think that this is an Amerindian name that I assumed.
There is me who also knows.
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 11, 2012, 23:07
There is me who also knows.
I’m happy.  ;up:
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Отправлено: Марбол от Апреля 12, 2012, 08:06
Did you ever read the only Russian Beatles fanzine 'From me to you'?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 12, 2012, 08:37
Did you ever read the only Russian Beatles fanzine 'From me to you'?
It’s correct to say: Have you ever read...
Upon the subject: Yes I have. :)
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Отправлено: Lodur от Апреля 12, 2012, 08:41
if they study authors, heroys, texts?
Studying heroes is really much more useful than studying heroin. :) God save the Queen! Halleluiah! :)

By the way, a spellchecker in Internet-browser can help you to avoid misprints. Or may be it was an example of using Runglish? :)
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 12, 2012, 10:46

Did you ever read the only Russian Beatles fanzine 'From me to
you'?
Yes, I did have. I always buy it when I come across it.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 12, 2012, 12:53
What that "to come across" means I wonder...
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 12, 2012, 12:55
to encounter, find by chance
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 12, 2012, 14:09
What that "to come across" means I wonder...
to come upon
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 12, 2012, 15:21


Цитировать
What that "to come across" means I
wonder...
to come upon
Why doesn’t "come across" suit you? Please lay claims to dictionaries or rather to English-speaking people...  :smoke:
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 12, 2012, 15:28


Цитировать
What that "to come across" means I
wonder...
to come upon
Why doesn’t "come across" suit you? Please lay claims to dictionaries or rather to English-speaking people...  :smoke:
he asked what it meant, and I said it meant pretty much the same as "come upon"
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 12, 2012, 15:40
he asked what it meant, and I said it meant pretty much the same as "come upon"
Искандер’s three dots look rather suspicious and somewhat sarcastic... :donno:
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Отправлено: Марбол от Апреля 12, 2012, 21:26
By the way, a spellchecker in Internet-browser can help you to avoid misprints.
Or may be it was an example of using Runglish?
No-no, it was a kind of misprint.
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Отправлено: Марбол от Апреля 12, 2012, 21:29
And I gave up buing this journal, since I don't enjoy the Beatles as I did some time ago...
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 12, 2012, 22:01
Don’t you like the Beatles? Why have you asked about the magazin "From Me to You" then? The logic textbook is lost.
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Отправлено: Марбол от Апреля 12, 2012, 22:55
I was meaning that I like the Beatles but they don't make me feel happy already.
I had been listening only the Beates for 7 yers until I met my girlfriend. And I love her.
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 12, 2012, 23:05
I see. It’s all girls’ fault. :)
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 12, 2012, 23:19
And I
love her.
"I know this love of mine
Will never die,
And I love her..."
None of the girls I had ever met managed to influence my Beatles-mania...  :stop:
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 13, 2012, 18:53
already
anymore?
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 13, 2012, 22:05
Nevermore!
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Апреля 14, 2012, 05:27
already
anymore?
Siz haqli emassiz, ehtimol :)"already"-"уже","anymore"-"больше (не)"..
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 14, 2012, 15:47
already
anymore?
Siz haqli emassiz, ehtimol
何じゃこりゃ
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 14, 2012, 15:49
I like the translate button more and more. ;D
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 14, 2012, 16:00
Yes, it’s a great invention, thanks to RawonaM!
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 14, 2012, 16:00
I like the translate button more and more. ;D
pero no funciona en ese caso
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 14, 2012, 16:02
Yes, it’s a great invention, thanks to RawonaM!
He invented google translate?  :o
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 14, 2012, 16:03
pero no funciona en ese caso

That may be ‘an untranslatable play of words involving local dialects’. ;D
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Отправлено: Nevik Xukxo от Апреля 14, 2012, 16:04
The translator is a debil, me thinks.
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 14, 2012, 16:05
The translator is a debil, me thinks.
he's weak? I thought robots were supposed to be strong
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 14, 2012, 16:06
He invented google translate?
An adoption sometimes is more significant.
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Отправлено: Nevik Xukxo от Апреля 14, 2012, 16:10
I thought robots were supposed to be strong

All robots are debils. Maybe in the future they'll be genies...
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 14, 2012, 17:06
I thought robots were supposed to be strong

All robots are debils. Maybe in the future they'll be genies...
Will they appear out of oil lamps? Or just plain bottles?
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 14, 2012, 17:56
already
anymore?
Siz haqli emassiz, ehtimol :)"already"-"уже","anymore"-"больше (не)"..
It seemed to me like a calque.
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Отправлено: DarkEuge от Апреля 14, 2012, 23:03
I'm afraid there are too many people speaking English today: their understanding of what is a "correct English" differs from place to place. Finally, our civilization will have a list of "English languages" which will have nothing to do with one another. And we'll have to look for the other international language... :(
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 14, 2012, 23:36
We just need more grammarnazis.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 14, 2012, 23:46
We just need more grammarnazis.
Hereʼs tropf enough ov grammarnazi ere this! Stop getting more!
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 14, 2012, 23:46
When grammarnazis constantly reproach natives for ‘wrong’ English, the language will become truely neutral. Perhaps natives will have certain advantages in learning English since it will resemble their vernaculars, but they will be hindered by false friends. Latin is a good example. It continued to be international for more then a millenium after the ‘learned language’ had become considerably different from popular dialects, and for centuries after its relics definitively dissolved into the Romance languages.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 15, 2012, 08:55
Hi!
Good when two quite different English words are translated in mother tongue with one and the same word. Then one can do lexical errors mixing these words. Other lexical errors also can be.
Aaa...
"The room neither big neither small."
"She very much like listen music."
"I playing."
"Have you already ate cake?"

Good? :)
(It's Russenglish)
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Отправлено: Квас от Апреля 15, 2012, 09:59
Good? :)
(It's Russenglish)

I’d say that’s absolutely perfect. :) I’m glad you’re back.
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 15, 2012, 10:11
I'm glad to see this forum and its users too. :)
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 15, 2012, 10:45
There's a strange exhilaration
In such total detestation
It's so pure and strong!
Though I do admit it came on fast
Still I do believe that it can last
And I will be...
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 15, 2012, 18:01
Hi!
Good when two quite different English words are translated in mother tongue with one and the same word. Then one can do lexical errors mixing these words. Other lexical errors also can be.
Aaa...
"The room neither big neither small."
"She very much like listen music."
"I playing."
"Have you already ate cake?"
"If it will rain, I'l stay in home."
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Апреля 15, 2012, 18:28
I was meaning that I like the Beatles but they don't make me feel happy already.
I had been listening only the Beates for 7 yers until I met my girlfriend. And I love her.
And what ramifications has your acquaintance had on your musical præferences? She has obviously estranged you from the Beatles, but has she initiated you into the works of her favourite musicians?
Hereʼs tropf enough ov grammarnazi ere this! Stop getting more!
tropf?  :??? From German Tropfen - a drop? Even a drop of grammarnazis provides for their intolerability?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 15, 2012, 18:40
tropf?  :??? From German Tropfen - a drop?
nope I donno whaʼʼs det, but some like ʻindeed, fullʼ
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Апреля 16, 2012, 08:18
Where  can I encontrar some videos dedicated a americanized hispanic gente hablando Spanglish?..Could any one aconsejar algo?
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 16, 2012, 17:27
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z13CVD0idrM" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z13CVD0idrM</a>
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Отправлено: Pedro от Апреля 17, 2012, 17:53
Hi!
tropf?  :??? From German Tropfen - a drop?
nope I donno whaʼʼs det, but some like ʻindeed, fullʼ
I'm glad to see you, Искандер. And... ¿Cuál es el nombre de este "dialecto" del Inglés?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 17, 2012, 20:04
And... ¿Cuál es el nombre de este "dialecto" del Inglés?
Thatʼs just Içkanderglish.
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 17, 2012, 20:37
Thatʼs just Içkanderglish.
You really run the risk of getting used to it more than to "normal" English and even forgetting the latter...
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 17, 2012, 20:45
used to it more than to "normal" English and even forgetting the latter...
What can I do with thaʼ?
Thatʼs a strong malicious force in the exact middle of my bosom. I strive against it with all my might, but itʼs so strong.
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 17, 2012, 21:55

What can I do with thaʼ?
Thatʼs a strong malicious force in
the exact middle of my bosom. I strive against it with all my might, but itʼs so
strong.
An acquaintance of mine, having associated somewhere with some northern English, felt a strong malicious force in the middle of his bosom to pronounce "рушн" and "рипублик", until the teacher promised to lower his mark at the exam...
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 17, 2012, 22:04
An acquaintance of mine, having associated somewhere with some northern English, felt a strong malicious force in the middle of his bosom to pronounce "рушн" and "рипублик", until the teacher promised to lower his mark at the exam...
Coz! Being a smatter fan of souths English I recomend to pronounce «ррррожн» and «ррррипобликь»
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 18, 2012, 09:06
U as a is a normal English dialect, isn't it?
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 18, 2012, 09:18

U as a is a normal English dialect, isn't it?
Do you mean to say that there exist also abnormal English dialects?
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 18, 2012, 09:20
No.
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 18, 2012, 10:56
U as a is a normal English dialect, isn't it?
in put, yes
in some dialects the foot-strut split never happened, like in Ireland and northern England so it's [ʊ] everywhere
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 18, 2012, 11:09
in some dialects the foot-strut split never happened
The foot-strut split has nothing to do with that, OE ȝēow.
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 18, 2012, 12:07
in some dialects the foot-strut split never happened
The foot-strut split has nothing to do with that, OE ȝēow.
I thought we were talking about Russian being read as [ruSn]
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Отправлено: autolyk от Апреля 18, 2012, 15:44
Sorry, I misunderstood.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 18, 2012, 15:54
U as a is a normal English dialect, isn't it?
in put, yes
in some dialects the foot-strut split never happened, like in Ireland and northern England so it's [ʊ] everywhere
I mean in all words.
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 18, 2012, 15:59
U as a is a normal English dialect, isn't it?
in put, yes
in some dialects the foot-strut split never happened, like in Ireland and northern England so it's [ʊ] everywhere
I mean in all words.
That's what I said. In Ireland and northern England it's in all words
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 18, 2012, 16:01
Okay.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Апреля 23, 2012, 15:26
What does the word "iopq" mean?
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 23, 2012, 15:31

What does the word "iopq" mean?
And the word "sagay" is mysterious, too.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Апреля 23, 2012, 15:53

What does the word "iopq" mean?
And the word "sagay" is mysterious, too.
I'm glad to explain my nickname to you. My nationality is khakas (belongs a turkic people), and the word "sagay" identifies a person which belongs to a subethnic/trible group called "sagaylar". So I've just given my trible name, that's all.
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 23, 2012, 15:57
What does the word "iopq" mean?
I am the terror that flaps in the night, I am the wrong number that wakes you up at 3 am.
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 23, 2012, 16:01
just given my trible name, that's all.
Thanks for the intelligible explanation.
What does the word "iopq" mean?
I am the terror that flaps in the night, I am the wrong number that wakes you up at 3 am.
And this explanation is terrible and not quite intelligible...  :o
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 23, 2012, 17:00
just given my trible name, that's all.
Thanks for the intelligible explanation.
What does the word "iopq" mean?
I am the terror that flaps in the night, I am the wrong number that wakes you up at 3 am.
And this explanation is terrible and not quite intelligible...  :o
I'm sorry you didn't have a childhood
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 23, 2012, 17:41
Maybe he had only wooden toys screwed to the floor?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Апреля 23, 2012, 17:44
screwed to the floor?
ceiling
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Апреля 23, 2012, 21:37

Maybe he had only wooden toys screwed to the floor?
ceiling
Всё, всё понял, отстаньте наффиг.
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Отправлено: Марбол от Апреля 23, 2012, 23:27
I am reading a paper in English in which a sort of vehicles is described. It's a pleasure to read a real English article, not of those translated from Russian by the suches. And at the last week I made a preliminary Russian-English dicrionary of the terms I use everyday. Having done the dictionary, I immediately found a lot of articles on my current issues.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Апреля 23, 2012, 23:34
a sort of vehicles
a number of?
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Отправлено: Марбол от Апреля 23, 2012, 23:38
Maybe, it is a kind or a type of vehicles.
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Отправлено: iopq от Апреля 24, 2012, 01:39
*a sort of vehicle
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Отправлено: Марбол от Апреля 24, 2012, 06:42
*a sort of vehicle
Thank you!
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Отправлено: Искандер от Мая 4, 2012, 10:37
well, do you think "I've been wishing not to do smth" sounds good?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Мая 4, 2012, 10:44
Why not?
Lately I’ve been wishing I had one desire..
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Отправлено: iopq от Мая 4, 2012, 23:58
well, do you think "I've been wishing not to do smth" sounds good?
sure, but what does it mean?

if it's something particular like "I've been wishing not to fail at English" then it's OK
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Отправлено: Искандер от Мая 5, 2012, 17:53
sure, but what does it mean?
Like
Iʼve been wishing not to do that but this morning the circumstances have changed tho Iʼll do it.
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Отправлено: iopq от Мая 6, 2012, 00:59
sure, but what does it mean?
Like
Iʼve been wishing not to do that but this morning the circumstances have changed tho Iʼll do it.
I had been wishing not to do that, but this morning the circumstances have changed; I'll do it.

since the wishing was in the past it has to be in the past tense
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Мая 6, 2012, 10:08

I had been wishing not to do that, but this morning the
circumstances have changed; I'll do it.

since the wishing was in the past
it has to be in the past tense
It is simpler to say "I didn’t want (or I hadn’t wanted) to do that...", or even beter "I wasn’t going to do that...", than to build such an awful consruction...
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Отправлено: autolyk от Мая 6, 2012, 10:14
It is simpler to say "I didn’t want (or I hadn’t wanted) to do that...", or even beter "I wasn’t going to do that...", than to build such an awful consruction...
Is a «since I’ve been loving you» also awful?
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Мая 6, 2012, 10:19
Is «since I’ve been loving you» also awful?
Why not say "since I love you"?
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Отправлено: autolyk от Мая 6, 2012, 10:24
Why not say "since I love you"?
It’s R. Plant who sang not me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMbxbT1WA3Y&feature=fvst
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Мая 6, 2012, 10:42
It’s R. Plant who sang not me:
Robert knows better, of course, but would he say so in the real world, not in a song? I just dont know...
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Отправлено: autolyk от Мая 6, 2012, 10:54
It seems to me he would, because there is a difference of sense between these expressions. 
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Отправлено: iopq от Мая 6, 2012, 11:08

I had been wishing not to do that, but this morning the
circumstances have changed; I'll do it.

since the wishing was in the past
it has to be in the past tense
It is simpler to say "I didn’t want (or I hadn’t wanted) to do that...", or even beter "I wasn’t going to do that...", than to build such an awful consruction...
but the perfect signifies that it's important to the present but it happened in the past
past perfect signifies it was important in the past and happened earlier

I didn't want to do that, but this morning the circumstances changed - мне не хотелось этого делать, но утром все поменялось
I had been wishing not to do it, but this morning the circumstances changed - я все это время не хотел этого делать, но утром все поменялось

there's a difference in meaning, in the second sentence the wishing came BEFORE the morning
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Мая 6, 2012, 11:43
It’s a pity there are no native English-speaking people here...
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Отправлено: Passerby от Мая 6, 2012, 15:39
It’s a pity there are no native English-speaking people here...
iopq is an English native speaker, by the way.
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Отправлено: Hellerick от Мая 6, 2012, 15:57
iopq is an English native speaker, by the way.
Is Igor himself aware of this?
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Отправлено: Passerby от Мая 6, 2012, 16:01
iopq is an English native speaker, by the way.
Is Igor himself aware of this?
He said he speaks English better than Russian and Ukrainian, didn't he?
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Отправлено: iopq от Мая 7, 2012, 00:41
iopq is an English native speaker, by the way.
Is Igor himself aware of this?
I consider my first language to be Russian, mother tongue to be Ukrainian and my best language to be English...
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Отправлено: Искандер от Мая 8, 2012, 23:07
First or second, Iopq speaks it every day...
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Отправлено: iopq от Мая 9, 2012, 03:13
First or second, Iopq speaks it every day...
but it's my third  :-\
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Отправлено: Lodur от Мая 13, 2012, 14:22
Is «since I’ve been loving you» also awful?
Why not say "since I love you"?
«Since I’ve been loving you» = «there was a time I used to love you, and beginning from that time <...>».
«Since I love you» = «because I love you (now)».
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Июля 28, 2012, 08:23
Hi,fellas! Have any of you seen phrases like "no can do"(means"I can't do that")? Its pattern looks "very hispanic" :??? but never mind the background (that must be a long story).. Just name some further examples of the pattern usage if they do exist.
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Отправлено: iopq от Июля 28, 2012, 10:40
Hi,fellas! Have any of you seen phrases like "no can do"(means"I can't do that")? Its pattern looks "very hispanic" :??? but never mind the background (that must be a long story).. Just name some further examples of the pattern usage if they do exist.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/no_can_do
From Chinese Pidgin English. A calque of Chinese 不能做.

(wiki/en) Chinese_Pidgin_English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Pidgin_English)
other examples in that article
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Отправлено: Искандер от Июля 28, 2012, 11:12
It will be "I boo neng zhoo it" correct soon with such a march...
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Отправлено: iopq от Июля 28, 2012, 11:24
bu4 neng2 zuo4
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Июля 29, 2012, 16:53
He-he, I like the shitty English ;up: Thanks,iorq. I've recently downloaded the documenary series 'bout gangstas of the US called "Gangland".Been watching 'em for last 5 days. Some stuff!!! I mean linguistic stuff..))
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 7, 2012, 19:58
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I donʼ understand, why God just put us here to have sex and than die

It seems I to improve my eng with theese guys. Nʼ girls.
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 19, 2012, 12:30
А это правда, или мне только  слышится, что англичане в конце своего гимна пропевают
God save the our Queen/King

???
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 19, 2012, 13:30
it's God save the Queen
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 19, 2012, 13:34
it's God save the Queen
There is some short word between "the" and "Queen"... Sounds like ukrainian га or english "our".
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Отправлено: iopq от Августа 19, 2012, 13:35
it's God save the Queen
There is some short word between "the" and "Queen"... Sounds like ukrainian га or english "our".
link?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 19, 2012, 13:44
I searched at youtube but havenʼt finded something like. I heard this in an audio at VK. Probably itʼs just »ha« with trumpets extra beat.
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Отправлено: Karakurt от Августа 19, 2012, 13:56
finded
ват?
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Отправлено: Искандер от Августа 19, 2012, 13:56
well, found.
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Отправлено: Versteher от Сентября 4, 2012, 11:20
Smile!

 := A hidden camera is being recording you!  :=

  http://www.lingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5509
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Отправлено: -Dreamer- от Сентября 4, 2012, 20:30
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A hidden camera is being recording you!  :=
What's the name of this tense? It's something strange...
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Отправлено: Lodur от Сентября 4, 2012, 20:39
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A hidden camera is being recording you!  :=
What's the name of this tense? It's something strange...
Have you seen the warning?
Smile!
:)
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Сентября 4, 2012, 20:47
Have you seen the warning?





Цитата:
Versteher Сегодня в 11:20

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Smile!
So, according to his pattern,  he’d better say "Be being smiling!"
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Отправлено: -Dreamer- от Сентября 4, 2012, 20:49
Lodur, yes, you're pretty right. I should have known. But I don't agree with Versteher, I think that most people here can speak or read English. It's not Swedish, Hindi or Turkish. English is taught every f*cking where now. And the language itself is not so complicated to master.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Сентября 5, 2012, 09:03
I searched at youtube but havenʼt finded something like. I heard this in an audio at VK. Probably itʼs just »ha« with trumpets extra beat.
I don't mean to nag but wouldn't the preposition "on" sound better than the "at" in such a context? Is the prep. "at" admissible here at all?
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Отправлено: Versteher от Сентября 5, 2012, 09:19
But why?

The more verba the better.

Verba cor linguae sunt.
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Сентября 5, 2012, 10:12
I ain't sayin it's bad. I just wanna make things clear for mysel.If i rememba rightly they say "on the site, on Twitter, on Youtube..." but neva "at",do they?
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Отправлено: iopq от Сентября 5, 2012, 12:34
I searched at youtube but havenʼt finded something like. I heard this in an audio at VK. Probably itʼs just »ha« with trumpets extra beat.
I don't mean to nag but wouldn't the preposition "on" sound better than the "at" in such a context? Is the prep. "at" admissible here at all?
you can shout at youtube, so I guess if you have a microphone hooked up to a text to speech program...
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Сентября 5, 2012, 14:19
Yes, I can. But here I meant to talk over the locative meaning (for example, "where did ya find this vid?"-"On Youtube"/not "at Youtube"/). I sorta guessed that the prep. "at" is inconvenient for representing of locative relations in our case (when speaking about websites).
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Отправлено: iopq от Сентября 6, 2012, 05:57
At Youtube = на ютюб (кричать на Ютюб, работать на Ютюб, и т.д.)
On Youtube = на ютюбе
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Отправлено: Maksim Sagay от Сентября 6, 2012, 14:15
YOU said that :yes:
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Отправлено: Piraraka от Декабря 18, 2012, 22:52
How about - "I searched Youtube", eh ?

Now back to the subject shall we?

I watched mini-series called "Ideal" recently, and I was really amazed by the accents they had there. I had to get me some subtitles fast otherwise I couldn't understand a thing they were saying.
Supposedly the actors are from Manchester so that must be a northern accent. Although once I had a chance to talk to a real Liverpudlian and she did not have any sort of an accent at all. She was educated I guess:)

As for the mini-series - I also liked "Black Adder" and I would highly recommend this classic of a show to anyone. Unfortunately I could not find any subtitles for this show. So I guess about 20-25% of the dialogues were lost to me due to accents (not very heavy by the way), bad sound quality and rapid speech of the actors. By the way the vocabulary used in this show is amazing as are the dialogues, I learned many new words and the humor is terrific! Rowan Atkinson is at his best!

Ta-ra!

P.S. Hope you'd be so kind as to point out any mistakes in my text. Thanks.
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Отправлено: sergik от Мая 4, 2013, 22:06
Let's discuss several points of the English grammar that I find interesting. For example, the "singular they."
(wiki/en) Singular_they (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they)
I've  come across an example of this in the Julian Barbour book "The End of Time". On page 43 there is a sentence:
"We can all tell the rough age of a person from a glance at their face".
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Отправлено: Marius от Декабря 13, 2013, 08:51
Wazzup people, I wonder why would someone need an artificial language for international communication (say Esperanto for example) when we already have English being thought throughout the whole world. In the esperanto topic I remember myself mentioning that having God given Scripture in a particular language would highly increase it's vitality, believe it or not - that has already happened with English, so if you're are a Christian you have every reason to learn it despite of the lawlessness promoted by the West. You can find the Scripture over here (http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Main_Page).
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Отправлено: Piraraka от Декабря 13, 2013, 12:07
Exactly!!! I also wonder why would someone need science and such, when the Scripture explains everything!

Pfff. Stupid godless humans!!! Read the Scripture and be blessed!  :D :D :D
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Отправлено: Marius от Декабря 13, 2013, 12:23
What does science have to do with the previous message? Would you explain your point?
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Отправлено: Piraraka от Декабря 13, 2013, 12:56
Well, actually Chinese is the most spoken language in the world, not English, I repeat - Chinese.

And that tells us something!!! That means GOD wants us all to speak Chinese.

You cannot ignore these facts! You just can't!
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Отправлено: Marius от Декабря 13, 2013, 13:21
Well, my point wasn't the fact that God would want somebody speak a particular language, what I did try to emphasize was the fact that there are good motivational reasons for learning English for people who claim to be Christians. Regarding the number of speakers and the quantity of governmentally organized entities a.k.a countries, I'll attach two graphics found in the internet, hopefully the information contained should be quite accurate. Now on estimating the unity of the Chinese language, I'm not acquainted with it, but I can remember people saying the unity is more hieroglyphic in it's nature than linguistic, the various dialects being non understandable with each other.
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Отправлено: -Dreamer- от Декабря 13, 2013, 13:25
Marius, that's just ridiculous. Those "letters from God and His Christ" are just a false prophecy. And English is not a sacred language. The real Scripture was written in Hebrew and Greek. But they aren't sacred, either. Indeed, those languages are respected by Christians, but it doesn't make them HOLY.  English is a living language spoken by over 300 million people as the first language. And that's why it's not fair to make it an international language. Some people are born with it and others have to study it hard if they don't wanna be the "second class". It sounds pretty chauvinistic.
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Отправлено: Piraraka от Декабря 13, 2013, 15:39
Those "letters from God and His Christ" are just a false prophecy.

What a blasphemy, what a blasphemy!!!

Anyway, in the light of the statistics, methinks that Chinese GOD is more powerful than the English one!!!
Don't know about you guys, but I'm gonna learn Chinese. :green:
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Отправлено: Marius от Декабря 13, 2013, 15:58
Learning Chinese seems to be a pretty wise option for you, seeing you already master the English language at a pretty decent level. My first message was addressed to people who are in the beginning of their journey into the English language and might be needing some motivation.
Your remark on the "Chinese God" being more powerful etc. is pretty funny, kind of reminds me childhood debates between boys on whose father is stronger and so on.
Again, I didn't intend to offend anybody, and if I did, I apologize for that.
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Отправлено: Piraraka от Декабря 13, 2013, 16:41
No need to apologize, if anything it was funny:)
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Отправлено: Lodur от Декабря 14, 2013, 12:25
Let's make the Sanskrit an international language. First of all, it is sacred, and secondly, there are virtually no people with Sanskrit as mother tongue.  :D
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Отправлено: Mercurio от Декабря 14, 2013, 12:28
Let's make the Sanskrit an international language. First of all, it is sacred, and secondly, there are virtually no people with Sanskrit as mother tongue.  :D
I can't learn it, because it's very difficult ...
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Отправлено: Lodur от Декабря 14, 2013, 12:31
I can't learn it, but it's very difficult ...
Hm, can you? :???
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Отправлено: Mercurio от Декабря 14, 2013, 12:35
I can't learn it, but it's very difficult ...
Hm, can you? :???
Nope, I can't... I want to try. Do you have a manual? :)
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Отправлено: Piraraka от Декабря 14, 2013, 12:44
manual...  :fp:
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Отправлено: Mercurio от Декабря 14, 2013, 12:46
manual...  :fp:
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И че?
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Отправлено: Piraraka от Декабря 14, 2013, 12:52
И чё... слышь чЁ семки есть? А еси найду? :D

A grammar, a textbook maybe? No?

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Отправлено: Hellerick от Декабря 14, 2013, 12:55
A grammar, a textbook maybe? No?

Напрасно докапываетесь. Мануалы тоже бывают.
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Отправлено: Marius от Декабря 14, 2013, 12:55
manual...  :fp:
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И че?
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Сейчас вас зарежут и принесут в жертву из-за того что вы допустили ошибку.
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Отправлено: Mercurio от Декабря 14, 2013, 12:57
И чё... слышь чЁ семки есть? А еси найду? :D

A grammar, a textbook maybe? No?
Offtop
Молодец, медаль Вам за Ваши познания...
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Отправлено: Piraraka от Декабря 14, 2013, 13:04
Напрасно докапываетесь. Мануалы тоже бывают.

SHOW ME TEH MAUNAL!!!
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Отправлено: Hellerick от Декабря 14, 2013, 13:10
(https://covers.openlibrary.org/b/id/5926981-M.jpg)
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Отправлено: Piraraka от Декабря 14, 2013, 13:15
 :=

OK, that's good.

Now how about something more up to date?
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Отправлено: Lodur от Декабря 14, 2013, 15:47
:=

OK, that's good.

Now how about something more up to date?
Is year 2007 up to date enough? :???

http://www.amazon.com/Scholastic-Sanskrit-Students-Treasury-Sciences/dp/0975373471
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Отправлено: Lodur от Декабря 14, 2013, 15:55
Nope, I can't... I want to try. Do you have a manual? :)
Why do you need a manual, if you can't learn it? :wall:

OK, you may try this one: http://www.scribd.com/doc/106528163/Samskrtasubodhini-a-Sanskrit-Primer-M-deshpande-2007
If, in any case, you'll find it unsuitable, I'll try to recommend some other one.
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Отправлено: Mercurio от Декабря 14, 2013, 16:03
Nope, I can't... I want to try. Do you have a manual? :)
Why do you need a manual, if you can't learn it? :wall:

OK, you may try this one: http://www.scribd.com/doc/106528163/Samskrtasubodhini-a-Sanskrit-Primer-M-deshpande-2007
If, in any case, you'll find it unsuitable, I'll try to recommend some other one.
Thanks, I will try. At least try :)
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Декабря 14, 2013, 16:20
manual...  :fp:
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И че?
With regard to the realm of application (language study), belike the noun handbook (D. Handbuch) is more apposite.

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Сейчас вас зарежут и принесут в жертву из-за того что вы допустили ошибку.
Meseems that the befitting (or at least adjuvant to the collocutor's study) reaction to errors is rectification rather than reprehension or condemnation.
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Отправлено: -Dreamer- от Декабря 14, 2013, 16:30
Meseems that the befitting (or at least adjuvant to the collocutor's study) reaction to errors is rectification rather than reprehension or condemnation.
Ellidi, are you kidding us?? Why on earth are you using words like that? Most of them are either completely obsolete or just very bookish. Do you post for yourself or for others? Please use a more neutral language.
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Отправлено: procyone от Декабря 14, 2013, 16:44
Well, actually Chinese is the most spoken language in the world, not English, I repeat - Chinese.

And that tells us something!!! That means GOD wants us all to speak Chinese.

You cannot ignore these facts! You just can't!

It's Mandarin to be precise. And the absolute number of Mandarin speakers doesn't mean much the speakers of the language live in China mostly or by Chinese diaspora in foreign countries.  On the other hand, English is a truly international language spoken in most countries of the world. You will find yourself speaking English rather Mandarin, while visiting foreign countries.
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Отправлено: Ellidi от Декабря 14, 2013, 16:58
Ellidi, are you kidding us?? Why on earth are you using words like that? Most of them are either completely obsolete or just very bookish. Do you post for yourself or for others? Please use a more neutral language.
For two (or three, depending on whether I understood you aright) reasons: firstly, initially I recollected these words, this particular vocabulary, so I moulded my considerations with them. Secondly, remoulding them using more common-or-garden vocabulary would require from me considerable effort, inasmuch as it is unwonted for me. Thirdly, erstwhile you admitted that the vocabulary in my messages is interspersed with words unfamiliar to you and you were receptive to the occasion of familiarising yourself with them. If the third reason I surmised seems to you the product of my misinterpretation and/or miscomprehension, I apologise.
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Отправлено: procyone от Декабря 14, 2013, 17:03
Well, actually Chinese is the most spoken language in the world, not English, I repeat - Chinese.

And that tells us something!!! That means GOD wants us all to speak Chinese.

You cannot ignore these facts! You just can't!

It's Mandarin to be precise. And the absolute number of Mandarin speakers doesn't mean much the speakers of the language live in China mostly or by Chinese diaspora in foreign countries.  On the other hand, English is a truly international language spoken in most countries of the world. You will find yourself speaking English rather Mandarin, while visiting foreign countries.

Ah! I cannot correct the errors I made, so I will repost the message.

It's Mandarin to be precise. And the absolute number of Mandarin speakers doesn't mean much as the  speakers of the language live in China mostly or the language is spoken by Chinese diaspora.On the other hand, English is a truly international language spoken in most countries of the world. You will find yourself speaking English rather Mandarin, while visiting other countries.
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Отправлено: -Dreamer- от Декабря 14, 2013, 17:09
Thirdly, erstwhile you admitted that the vocabulary in my messages is interspersed with words unfamiliar to you and you were receptive to the occasion of familiarising yourself with them. If the third reason I inferred seems to you a product of my misinterpretation, I apologise.
Well, maybe you're right. I could memorize new words reading your posts. :) That's a real benefit, because I'm always eager to enlarge my vocabulary. I was just a little worried about others who might have some troubles in understanding your writing.
By the way, do you always talk like that? If a foreigner in Bulgaria adresses you in English, will you answer him in a similar way? That would sound quite strange, I guess.
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Отправлено: Piraraka от Декабря 14, 2013, 17:20

Now how about something more up to date?
Is year 2007 up to date enough? :???
[/quote]

Oh shit you gots me!!!

> Ellidi, are you kidding us?? Why on earth are you using words like that?

I think he's just having a laugh:)
Me likes it!

> English is a truly international language spoken in most countries of the world.

We'll see how English will be doing in a hundred years. Mwahahahah! :green:
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Отправлено: Rwseg от Декабря 14, 2013, 18:27
Meseems that the befitting (or at least adjuvant to the collocutor's study) reaction to errors is rectification rather than reprehension or condemnation.
Personne parle ce langage comme le vôtre. C'est un langage bizarre et macaronique. Par exemple, adjuvant est plutôt un terme de médecin. C'est comme de parler en russe мне экзотермично à la place de мне жарко.
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Отправлено: Marius от Декабря 15, 2013, 10:14
We'll see how English will be doing in a hundred years. Mwahahahah! :green:
Who knows how humanity will be doing in twenty years...
All these weapons of mass destruction having been manufactured, wouldn't it be naive to suppose nobody's gonna use them?
A small glance into the nearest future is available to us on the pages of the last book of the Bible.
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Отправлено: sergik от Января 4, 2014, 20:18
Personne parle ce langage comme le vôtre. C'est un langage bizarre et macaronique. Par exemple, adjuvant est plutôt un terme de médecin. C'est comme de parler en russe мне экзотермично à la place de мне жарко.
Quel dialecte étrange! Etes-vous sûr de ce que vous dites en anglais?
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Отправлено: sergik от Января 4, 2014, 20:27
Well, actually Chinese is the most spoken language in the world, not English, I repeat - Chinese.

And that tells us something!!! That means GOD wants us all to speak Chinese.

You cannot ignore these facts! You just can't!
And what if it's true?
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Отправлено: sergik от Января 4, 2014, 20:36
We'll see how English will be doing in a hundred years. Mwahahahah! :green:
Wow! Are you really going to live for the next hundred years?! Have you cracked the Makropulos secret ?
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Отправлено: Poirot от Января 4, 2014, 21:21
Today I received an sms from my friend saying that he feels like he poisoned himself. I sms'd back asking what does he sin on. He replied that on vodka. Laughed like an elephant above this.
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Января 4, 2014, 21:29
Eh, davno ne govoril po-angl Well, haven’t spoken English for ages! Awfully sorry. But English is such a bore for me, unfortunately. That’s unjust!
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Отправлено: sergik от Января 4, 2014, 21:31
initially I recollected these words, this particular vocabulary, so I moulded my considerations with them.
And what did you use as a cast formwork for the molding?
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Отправлено: Poirot от Января 4, 2014, 21:34
Ew, years ago I have not taken in hands of sabers.
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Отправлено: sergik от Января 4, 2014, 21:35
He replied that on vodka
Isn't it a good time to change for maotai ?
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Отправлено: Piraraka от Января 4, 2014, 22:45
Today I received an sms from my friend saying that he feels like he poisoned himself. I sms'd back asking what does he sin on. He replied that on vodka. Laughed like an elephant above this.
I tried to correct this as best as I could.

Today I received a text from a friend, saying that he has got a food poisoning. I texted back asking, what he thought could have caused that. He said vodka. I laughed my ass off / That made me crack up.
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Января 5, 2014, 02:32
did I already say London is the capital of Great Britain?
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Отправлено: sergik от Января 5, 2014, 02:39
did I already say London is the capital of Great Britain?
Is Britain still great?
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Января 5, 2014, 02:47
Is Britain still great?
Britain is a small island no one listens to  :yes:
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Отправлено: sergik от Января 5, 2014, 02:51
Britain is a small island no one listens to  :yes:
Ain't it a shame!
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Отправлено: Piraraka от Января 5, 2014, 02:55
Britain is a small island no one listens to  :yes:
Ain't it a shame!
To hell with them, they are no friends to us, they never were:)
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Отправлено: sergik от Января 5, 2014, 13:56
To hell with them, they are no friends to us, they never were:)
Is there any friend to us among English-speaking countries?  Is there any real friend among all of the countries in the world? 
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Отправлено: Poirot от Января 5, 2014, 17:03
Is there any real friend among all of the countries in the world?
Real friend is army and navy.
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Отправлено: -Dreamer- от Января 5, 2014, 17:26
I laughed my ass off
Ich hab mir den Arsch abgelacht. :green:
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Отправлено: -Dreamer- от Января 5, 2014, 17:32
Eh, davno ne govoril po-angl Well, haven’t spoken English for ages! Awfully sorry. But English is such a bore for me, unfortunately. That’s unjust!
You may talk politics here. Nobody gives a sh*t, 'cause moderators don't seem to check this thread. :) I won't report you, I promise. :tss:
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Отправлено: Алексей Гринь от Января 5, 2014, 17:47
that feel when no gf
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Января 5, 2014, 17:48
I won't report you, I promise
The Ukrainians will.
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Отправлено: -Dreamer- от Января 5, 2014, 17:50
The Ukrainians will.
They tend to start x-srachs themselves all over the forum. Chya by mychala.
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Отправлено: Marius от Января 5, 2014, 17:51
My coach used to say that people use obscene words when they have a limited vocabulary.
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Отправлено: -Dreamer- от Января 5, 2014, 17:53
My coach used to say that people use obscene words when they have a limited vocabulary.
It's only partly true.
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Отправлено: Poirot от Января 5, 2014, 18:17
My coach used to say that people use obscene words when they have a limited vocabulary.
Or in danger.
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Отправлено: -Dreamer- от Января 5, 2014, 18:18
Or in danger.
Or in anger. :)
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Отправлено: Marius от Января 5, 2014, 18:48
Maybe some of the moderators don't quite check this section simply because their fluency in the language here spoken is little bit lacking? If any of them will be reading this, don't take it seriously, I'm teasing you. So, it turns out that we have discovered a way to finally discuss what's on our minds without getting banned. Go on Rocky, I remember you saying something about my grandfather! Charge your cowboy gun and let's see who's quicker between us!
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Отправлено: Poirot от Января 5, 2014, 18:50
Go on Rocky, I remember you saying something about my grandfather!
Back in the saddle.
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Отправлено: -Dreamer- от Января 5, 2014, 18:56
I remember you saying something about my grandfather!
And what was wrong with your granddaddy? Was he a malicious Russophobe?
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Отправлено: Poirot от Января 5, 2014, 19:36
I heard a nice joke-riddle today. Here it is.

- What is the difference between the Olympic Games in Moscow back in 1980 and in Sochi in 2014?

- They released Mishka in the end of Olympic Games in Moscow and in the beginning of the Olympic Games in Sochi.
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Отправлено: Marius от Января 5, 2014, 20:09
offtop
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Января 5, 2014, 20:38
Go on Rocky, I remember you saying something about my grandfather! Charge your
cowboy gun and let's see who's quicker between us!
Marius, maybe your Granddad is the best Granddad in the world, but in that very matter on the alphabets he was historically wrong. Awfully sorry. Don’t take it as offence. I ain’t gonna draw the gun.
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Января 5, 2014, 20:40
- They released Mishka in the end of Olympic Games in Moscow and in the
beginning of the Olympic Games in Sochi.
:D
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Отправлено: Marius от Января 5, 2014, 20:50
The gun thing was just a joke, only not yet grown children love to make use of them. On the alphabets, if I'm not wrong, you have been answered there in that topic that nobody denies the existence of the Cyrilic one in Romania, it's just the fact that some foreign force had blocked the use of the Roman one in the district of my nativity. And that was an instrument to rather divide the unity of my people than an attempt to preserve it's ancient script. Shalom lekha.
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Отправлено: Poirot от Января 5, 2014, 20:55
Shalom lekha.
What is it?
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Января 5, 2014, 21:04
And that was an instrument to rather divide the unity of my people than an
attempt to preserve it's ancient script
Well, it looks like it’s the Rumanians who changed their original alphabet unnecessarily after the annexation of Bessarabia by Russia and thus broke the unity of your people (if there had been any).
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Отправлено: Marius от Января 5, 2014, 21:18
(if there had been any).
You are to know better.
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Отправлено: RockyRaccoon от Января 5, 2014, 21:27
(if there had been any).
You are to know better.
I meant the unity.
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Отправлено: -Dreamer- от Января 5, 2014, 21:31
Pardon me, but I can't quite understand what you guys are talking about. Rocky, are you against the Latin-based Romanian alphabet? Do you think Russia changed it in order to separate the Moldovans from the Romanians? Well, it's not far from the truth, since the Soviets always saw some kind of threat to the integrity of their system even in languages. The Tajiks were similarly deprived of their ancient literary tradition and Azerbaijani Turks were just renamed to Azerbaijanis.
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Отправлено: Poirot от Января 5, 2014, 21:42
and Azerbaijani Turks were just renamed to Azerbai