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Название: E-books by Truman Capote
Отправлено: Rezia от февраля 4, 2006, 16:50
I would be grateful if I'll be helped to find some novels by Truman Capote. It'll be nice if someone can recommend which is worth  reading. What about "Breakfast at Tiffany's"? Is it good?
Название: E-books by Truman Capote
Отправлено: macabro от февраля 4, 2006, 18:12
"if I will.."
khm!  ;)

I will at least try to help you. But not today. Tomorrow, when I get home.
I'll try to find the books you mentioned in both topics you opened.
Название: Re: E-books by Truman Capote
Отправлено: Rezia от февраля 4, 2006, 18:45
Thanks in advance, I relied on you. :)
Название: E-books by Truman Capote
Отправлено: macabro от февраля 4, 2006, 18:59
I guess "will" is never used in if-sentences? Or can it be used in passive?
I mean, "if I'll be helped" vs "if I am helped"
Название: E-books by Truman Capote
Отправлено: RawonaM от февраля 4, 2006, 19:08
Цитата: macabro от февраля  4, 2006, 18:59
I guess "will" is never used in if-sentences? Or can it be used in passive?
I mean, "if I'll be helped" vs "if I am helped"
It is not accepted in standard English, but in spoken language, especially American, it is used.
Название: E-books by Truman Capote
Отправлено: macabro от февраля 4, 2006, 19:56
Maybe. In passive.
In active voice, something like "if I will call you, will you be there" would sound a bit strange even for an American ear. I guess so, at least :)
Название: E-books by Truman Capote
Отправлено: Rezia от февраля 4, 2006, 20:17
Цитата: RawonaM от февраля  4, 2006, 19:08
Цитата: macabro от февраля  4, 2006, 18:59
I guess "will" is never used in if-sentences? Or can it be used in passive?
I mean, "if I'll be helped" vs "if I am helped"
It is not accepted in standard English, but in spoken language, especially American, it is used.
RawonaM, thanks for your grammatical support.
Цитата: Rezia от февраля  4, 2006, 16:50
I would be grateful if I'll be helped to
Well, this didn't sound strange at the time of composing the phrase...
Название: E-books by Truman Capote
Отправлено: macabro от февраля 4, 2006, 20:40
One more thing. Maybe it could sound a bit natural if one uses subjunctive mood in both verbs?
"I would be. if I could be.." etc

I'm just an amateur who has never lived in English-speaking society; i'm not /придираюсь/ now, it just could be interesting for me to know if I am right..

ufff.. it's a bit hard for me to speak English now, because Norwegian takes over, heh :)
Название: Re : E-books by Truman Capote
Отправлено: RawonaM от февраля 4, 2006, 21:13
Цитата: "macabro" от
In active voice, something like "if I will call you, will you be there" would sound a bit strange even for an American ear. I guess so, at least
Well, this specific phrase is probably strange for an American (two "will"s are too close, what do we need them for?), but you will be amazed how many sentences sound fine for an American, though they sound bad to you, because of what you know from books (like: I don't want no money; if I was a millionaire, I'd be happy; we was attacked etc)
You can read about it here :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/learnitv315.shtml

Not too much, I'll try to find more later. It doesn't depend on the voice, as Google shows.
Название: E-books by Truman Capote
Отправлено: macabro от февраля 4, 2006, 21:27
"if I was a millioner, I'd be happy".. so what? I'd like not to use were here, hehe :) It doesn't sound bad to me, no.
btw, millionaire. I've always loved spelling :D
Hey, nice link here! Thx.
Название: Re : E-books by Truman Capote
Отправлено: RawonaM от февраля 4, 2006, 21:32
Цитата: "macabro" от
btw, millionaire. I've always loved spelling
Yeah, French. ;)