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Цитата: "Tony" от
Why do you think Esperanto is not respectable?

Just because it's "a wannabe conlang with no use..."

Цитата: "Tony" от
Looking at Old English, I can see many, many similarities with nowdays German.

Together with Dutch, for centuries they drifted away from German. Looking at the O.E. you can see definitely another language. The modern one I'd call a mixture and not "a German with a hard Roman influence".

Цитата: "Tony" от
A big problem English will face is that already around 2050 its native speakers will be highly outnumbered by non-natives which could be compared with Latin at the time the Roman Empire had expanded its influence over many territories.

The Empire was cracked as soon as the Roman languages "divorced" quite enough A measure of communications for "now" has nothing to do with "that epoch". So it's hardly possible to imagine any significant divergence. The yankees will never go home, you betcha! I'd push my son to learn some Chinese, though

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Even now there have spawned quite a few variants of English which are hardly comprehensible for natives; e. g. in South Asia.

For 10 minutes in the very beginning. When I came to Guangzhou at the first time I faced some real troubles. But I got used in a hour!

Цитата: "Amateur" от
So, speak Esperanto and don't damage respectable languages!  

To hell with it. I'd better spoil l'Italiano itself.

Why do you think Esperanto is not respectable?

Цитата: Jumis от августа 11, 2006, 11:26
once it becomes international it turns into the Basic.

So, speak Esperanto and don't damage respectable languages! 

Well, English makes use of lots of idioms which aren't that easy to learn but its grammar has indeed become quite simple in contrast to most other Indoeuropean languages. Looking at Old English, I can see many, many similarities with nowdays German.

A big problem English will face is that already around 2050 its native speakers will be highly outnumbered by non-natives which could be compared with Latin at the time the Roman Empire had expanded its influence over many territories. Even now there have spawned quite a few variants of English which are hardly comprehensible for natives; e. g. in South Asia.

Let's see what happens in future.

For me, it's a li'l bit funny to make easier smth. that is already primitive. Unfortunately, this is the fate for English in the 21st century.

You can take either Finnish or Lithuanian - once it becomes international it turns into the Basic. As per English, it became simplicized a lot of centuries ago. And it looks like the process ain't over!

Do you know Ogden's Basic English? It's more or less the same but Globish pretends to be something exceptionally new, and the way it is advertised looks dubious. That's the main problem I have with it.

Цитата: "Tony" от
And as you have just pointed out, many people speak something like that, if they are not yet advanced enough or don't bother to advance.

OK: I work a lot with some companies in China, Italy, Greece, Lithuania etc. Do they need anything to advance for being understood? I also worked with some dudes from South Africa (very traditional version of English) and from the United States (which is rather "Deutschlish" for me).

I dislike its advertising as if it was something exceptional new.

And as you have just pointed out, many people speak something like that, if they are not yet advanced enough or don't bother to advance.

Being honest, I'd claim about 90% speakers do speak sorta Globish. Me too, as you see

Pardon, I see no huge difference between regular and broken to downgrade the first one so much...