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Автор RawonaM
 - февраля 4, 2006, 21:32
Цитата: "macabro" от
btw, millionaire. I've always loved spelling
Yeah, French. ;)
Автор macabro
 - февраля 4, 2006, 21:27
"if I was a millioner, I'd be happy".. so what? I'd like not to use were here, hehe :) It doesn't sound bad to me, no.
btw, millionaire. I've always loved spelling :D
Hey, nice link here! Thx.
Автор RawonaM
 - февраля 4, 2006, 21:13
Цитата: "macabro" от
In active voice, something like "if I will call you, will you be there" would sound a bit strange even for an American ear. I guess so, at least
Well, this specific phrase is probably strange for an American (two "will"s are too close, what do we need them for?), but you will be amazed how many sentences sound fine for an American, though they sound bad to you, because of what you know from books (like: I don't want no money; if I was a millionaire, I'd be happy; we was attacked etc)
You can read about it here :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/learnitv315.shtml

Not too much, I'll try to find more later. It doesn't depend on the voice, as Google shows.
Автор macabro
 - февраля 4, 2006, 20:40
One more thing. Maybe it could sound a bit natural if one uses subjunctive mood in both verbs?
"I would be. if I could be.." etc

I'm just an amateur who has never lived in English-speaking society; i'm not /придираюсь/ now, it just could be interesting for me to know if I am right..

ufff.. it's a bit hard for me to speak English now, because Norwegian takes over, heh :)
Автор Rezia
 - февраля 4, 2006, 20:17
Цитата: RawonaM от февраля  4, 2006, 19:08
Цитата: macabro от февраля  4, 2006, 18:59
I guess "will" is never used in if-sentences? Or can it be used in passive?
I mean, "if I'll be helped" vs "if I am helped"
It is not accepted in standard English, but in spoken language, especially American, it is used.
RawonaM, thanks for your grammatical support.
Цитата: Rezia от февраля  4, 2006, 16:50
I would be grateful if I'll be helped to
Well, this didn't sound strange at the time of composing the phrase...
Автор macabro
 - февраля 4, 2006, 19:56
Maybe. In passive.
In active voice, something like "if I will call you, will you be there" would sound a bit strange even for an American ear. I guess so, at least :)
Автор RawonaM
 - февраля 4, 2006, 19:08
Цитата: macabro от февраля  4, 2006, 18:59
I guess "will" is never used in if-sentences? Or can it be used in passive?
I mean, "if I'll be helped" vs "if I am helped"
It is not accepted in standard English, but in spoken language, especially American, it is used.
Автор macabro
 - февраля 4, 2006, 18:59
I guess "will" is never used in if-sentences? Or can it be used in passive?
I mean, "if I'll be helped" vs "if I am helped"
Автор Rezia
 - февраля 4, 2006, 18:45
Thanks in advance, I relied on you. :)
Автор macabro
 - февраля 4, 2006, 18:12
"if I will.."
khm!  ;)

I will at least try to help you. But not today. Tomorrow, when I get home.
I'll try to find the books you mentioned in both topics you opened.