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Автор sagittarius
- июля 31, 2011, 19:42"Берегите пенсне, Киса " ©
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Автор sagittarius
- июля 31, 2011, 18:38Arm:hoɫm, o-stem 'wind <-Proto-IE: *ane->Old Greek: ánemo-s m. `Wind'; ántǟ <ántai> `ветер' (Hsch.); antǟ́ f. <gen. antás> `дуновение' Hsch.)
hoɫm, o-stem 'wind' (Bible+); also *hoɫmn, NPl hoɫmunk' frequently in Aristotle
[NHB 2: 117c]; In view of the absence of compounds which would corroborate
*hoɫmn, Ačaṙyan (AčaṙHLPatm 2, 1951: 428) considers the -n to be secondary.
●ETYM Usually derived from PIE *h2onh1mo-: Gr. ἄνεμος m. 'wind', Lat. animus m.
'soul, mind, spirit' (< *anamo, cf. Osc. anamúm-), etc. (see HAB 3: 112 with
literature; *-nm- > -ɫm- through dissimilation, cf. nman 'like' > dial. lm-); see also
Meillet 1936: 48; Pokorny 1959: 39; Mallory/Adams 1997: 82a (< *honm);
Matzinger 2005: 20; de Vaan 2008: 43. The anlaut is problematic, however (Frisk 1:
105; cf. Untermann 2000: 98). Kortlandt (1980b: 127) is inclined to disagree both
with Ruijgh's *h2onh1mos and with Beekes' *h2enh1mos and to posit *h2nh1emos.
See also Schrijver (1991: 91, 311, and espec. 316-318, with thorough discussion).
Kortlandt (ibid.) notes that "Arm. hoɫm is probably of non-IE origin".
Beekes (1972: 129) points out that the etymology would imply *h2onh1mo-, and
adds: "However, it would require a dissimilation nm > lm, which cannot be
demonstrated elsewhere (though it cannot be refuted either by a case with -nmpreserved)".
Schindler (1994: 397) derives hoɫm from *h2onh1mo-, and compares it
with the case of hoviw 'shepherd' (q.v.).
Van Windekens (1961: 547-548) links hoɫm with Toch. B on-olme 'être vivant'
(on the latter, see Adams 1999: 115). For other etymologies, see Schmitt 1972: 26.
One wonders if a contamination of *h2onh1mo- with Skt. ánila- m. 'wind, air' <
*h2enh1-lo- (cf. Bugge 1892: 442) may have occurred.
Arm:hev-al: дышать <- ? - Proto-IE: *(a)wē-<PIH *Hʷ->дуть-> Hittite: huwant- 'wind'
hoɫm, o-stem 'wind' (Bible+); also *hoɫmn, NPl hoɫmunk' frequently in Aristotle
[NHB 2: 117c]; In view of the absence of compounds which would corroborate
*hoɫmn, Ačaṙyan (AčaṙHLPatm 2, 1951: 428) considers the -n to be secondary.
●ETYM Usually derived from PIE *h2onh1mo-: Gr. ἄνεμος m. 'wind', Lat. animus m.
'soul, mind, spirit' (< *anamo, cf. Osc. anamúm-), etc. (see HAB 3: 112 with
literature; *-nm- > -ɫm- through dissimilation, cf. nman 'like' > dial. lm-); see also
Meillet 1936: 48; Pokorny 1959: 39; Mallory/Adams 1997: 82a (< *honm);
Matzinger 2005: 20; de Vaan 2008: 43. The anlaut is problematic, however (Frisk 1:
105; cf. Untermann 2000: 98). Kortlandt (1980b: 127) is inclined to disagree both
with Ruijgh's *h2onh1mos and with Beekes' *h2enh1mos and to posit *h2nh1emos.
See also Schrijver (1991: 91, 311, and espec. 316-318, with thorough discussion).
Kortlandt (ibid.) notes that "Arm. hoɫm is probably of non-IE origin".
Beekes (1972: 129) points out that the etymology would imply *h2onh1mo-, and
adds: "However, it would require a dissimilation nm > lm, which cannot be
demonstrated elsewhere (though it cannot be refuted either by a case with -nmpreserved)".
Schindler (1994: 397) derives hoɫm from *h2onh1mo-, and compares it
with the case of hoviw 'shepherd' (q.v.).
Van Windekens (1961: 547-548) links hoɫm with Toch. B on-olme 'être vivant'
(on the latter, see Adams 1999: 115). For other etymologies, see Schmitt 1972: 26.
One wonders if a contamination of *h2onh1mo- with Skt. ánila- m. 'wind, air' <
*h2enh1-lo- (cf. Bugge 1892: 442) may have occurred.
Arm:hev-al: дышать <- ? - Proto-IE: *(a)wē-<PIH *Hʷ->дуть-> Hittite: huwant- 'wind'
Автор sagittarius
- июля 31, 2011, 17:57Hʷe- дуть смахивает на звукаподражание. ![:-\](https://lingvoforum.net/Smileys/default/sm_confused.gif ":-\")
Автор Bhudh
- июля 31, 2011, 17:46Скр. vasantaḥ.
Автор Антиромантик
- июля 31, 2011, 17:44Цитата: Bhudh от июля 31, 2011, 17:36На *-nt-o-.Цитата: Антиромантик от А есть случаи еще?На что? На существительные на *-nt-?
Автор Bhudh
- июля 31, 2011, 17:36Цитата: Антиромантик от А есть случаи еще?На что? На существительные на *-nt-?
Цитата: sagittarius от А такая конструкция не возможна ?В латинском *-ʷ- не выпадал.
*(a)we-nt<-Hʷe-n-> *ane
И вообще, *Hʷe → o.
Автор sagittarius
- июля 31, 2011, 17:35А такая конструкция не возможна ?
дуть - *(a)we-nt<-*Hʷe-n-> *ane -: дышать, дуть
дуть - *(a)we-nt<-*Hʷe-n-> *ane -: дышать, дуть
Автор Антиромантик
- июля 31, 2011, 17:21А есть случаи еще?
Автор Bhudh
- июля 31, 2011, 16:47А давно ль причастия обрели собственный тип склонения?
*vē-nt-os — слово довольно архаичное.
*vē-nt-os — слово довольно архаичное.