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Автор Seryj Slon
- декабря 22, 2005, 19:32Цитата: Rezia от декабря 21, 2005, 21:29A great deal of mistakes, leading to the erroneous appraisal of human creations, is bound to that circumstance we oddly enough forgiving their descent. We often ignore they have not always existed. A sort of corresponding coquetry follows that – a coquetry, that pushes, as a rule, to dissemble – and even dissemble too much good the origins of a masterpiece. We are afraid they`re mediocre: moreover, we fear that they would be natural.
Well, it's right as I've heard (from one girl, a great fan of the Beatles) that the Beatles once said they just wrote things and let their audience do the what-is-it-all-about guessing work.
Paul-Ambroise Valéry (translated word for word from russian translation of V.Kozovoy from http://www.vinci.ru/5/tezaurus/86/statia_2251.html)
Автор Rezia
- декабря 21, 2005, 21:29Цитата: Drunkie от декабря 21, 2005, 17:11Well, it's right as I've heard (from one girl, a great fan of the Beatles) that the Beatles once said they just wrote things and let their audience do the what-is-it-all-about guessing work
There. Trying to figure out what a particular rock poet meant when he (sometimes she) wrote a particular line is a completely fruitless task in most cases. Often, they don't know themselves what they really meant.
.Автор Seryj Slon
- декабря 21, 2005, 18:12Цитата: Drunkie от декабря 21, 2005, 17:11I`d rather say that they do it quite deliberately, getting bored of what they could have written in sober state of mind
There. Trying to figure out what a particular rock poet meant when he (sometimes she) wrote a particular line is a completely fruitless task in most cases. Often, they don't know themselves what they really meant.
Автор Drunkie
- декабря 21, 2005, 17:11There. Trying to figure out what a particular rock poet meant when he (sometimes she) wrote a particular line is a completely fruitless task in most cases. Often, they don't know themselves what they really meant.
Автор Seryj Slon
- декабря 21, 2005, 17:06No, I don`t spend much time meditating on how this refrain could be translated (see my second post here above). Nor even have so highly improved level of English so to guess lingvistic riddles. Fortnightly
Автор Drunkie
- декабря 21, 2005, 16:21Well, maybe you have too much free time thinking about things such as what can "come together right now over me" really mean? 
Oh, and by the way, if you ever find an answer to your Beatles query, maybe you'll also be able to help me understand what the following means: "You take 10p back and then stab it / Spray it on and tag it / So sack on me". It's from a Happy Mondays song called "Kinky Afro".
Oh, and by the way, if you ever find an answer to your Beatles query, maybe you'll also be able to help me understand what the following means: "You take 10p back and then stab it / Spray it on and tag it / So sack on me". It's from a Happy Mondays song called "Kinky Afro".
Автор Seryj Slon
- декабря 21, 2005, 15:00But, if I`m not mistaken, "Paul is dead" was in reversed field of tape between the songs ("Let it be" album), not within them. And besides, that wasn`t Beatles own conseption, it was only catched by their flee-catching fans.
And this very approach to the Beatles songs reminds me of an old anecdote:
-- Could you tell me, doctor, what does it mean that when I`m touching, with my tip of tounge, a lump of a foil in which the potato was baked before, I feel a pricking behind my left ear?
-- This means that you have too much free time.
And this very approach to the Beatles songs reminds me of an old anecdote:
-- Could you tell me, doctor, what does it mean that when I`m touching, with my tip of tounge, a lump of a foil in which the potato was baked before, I feel a pricking behind my left ear?
-- This means that you have too much free time.
Автор Kyti
- декабря 20, 2005, 20:53if you really listen to the song "he got hair down to his knees" or something like that..
do you know anything about the"paul is dead" deal they did back in the 60s? if not you should go to http://www.turnmeondeadman.net/ and click on the paul is dead thing. that explains a whole lot of ther songs. it';s areally cool thing to read about.. almost every one of their songs relects something that happened to paul (which really didnt..because he's still alive) but they liked keeping the joke going.. go to that site and see if that helps any!
--Kayti //www.xanga.com/brilliantdisguise28
do you know anything about the"paul is dead" deal they did back in the 60s? if not you should go to http://www.turnmeondeadman.net/ and click on the paul is dead thing. that explains a whole lot of ther songs. it';s areally cool thing to read about.. almost every one of their songs relects something that happened to paul (which really didnt..because he's still alive) but they liked keeping the joke going.. go to that site and see if that helps any!
--Kayti //www.xanga.com/brilliantdisguise28
Автор Seryj Slon
- декабря 13, 2005, 14:48Yes, just lately I`ve bought a DVD with "Magical Mystery Tour", and I`m going to watch it, especially "I`m the walrus". And surely, flat-top was sort of a haircut. But do you realize the sense of refrain "Come together right now over me"? (Apart from everything that`s been said here).
Автор DryGene
- декабря 13, 2005, 14:35I think that from the very start I should refer you to J Lennon's other song "I am the Walrus". It's also full of enigmatic or coded phrases yet one clear message: "Experts-texperts, choking smokers, don't you see that joker laughs at you (Uh-Hu-Hu ! Ha-Ha-Ha!)"
Come Together is not a particularly coherent song (and was not supposed to be) yet it is full of imagery that appears quite specific:
He comes old flat-top... grooving up slowly...
I am imagining an ageing 'beatnik' or ex-rocknroll 'flat-top cat' shuffling along loosely, demonstarting his now long hair and slightly ridiculous 'cool' looks
That's my reading...
G.
Come Together is not a particularly coherent song (and was not supposed to be) yet it is full of imagery that appears quite specific:
He comes old flat-top... grooving up slowly...
I am imagining an ageing 'beatnik' or ex-rocknroll 'flat-top cat' shuffling along loosely, demonstarting his now long hair and slightly ridiculous 'cool' looks
That's my reading...
G.