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Автор Drunkie
 - ноября 30, 2005, 21:08
Цитата: "paul_kiss" от
Elik, do they really speak like that in the British Island?
I'm not Elik, but anyway: yes they do. And I've heard far worse examples than the Sex Pistols.
Most British rock singers try to make their accent sound less British so that the songs are better marketable in the US. Only a few actually sing/sang like they speak: The Sex Pistols, The Cure, Blur, Pulp, The Libertines, (ahemn) Depeche Mode and some others.
Автор paul_kiss
 - ноября 30, 2005, 21:01
Yeah, Sex Pistols have (well, had) a really cool Island twang. :) Elik, do they really speak like that in the British Island?
Автор Drunkie
 - ноября 30, 2005, 19:51
Цитата: Elik (<b>Today</b> at 20:42:02)
To my personal perception, some British speak in such a manner that I barely recognize that they speak English
That's called 'variety of accents'. Russian is far more uniform.
Цитата: Elik (<b>Today</b> at 20:42:02)
"the correct British pronunciation". The songs of the Sex Pistols sounded so unintelligible to the American audience, that the producers had to put subtitles in their clips
The Sctottish film 'Trainspotting' was also shown with subtitles in the US, because the Yanks couldn't understand Scots. So what? That only means that Americans have little idea about how other versions of English sound - they are only familiar with that of their own. And the variety of English sung by John Lydon is not "the correct British pronunciation".
Автор Elik
 - ноября 30, 2005, 19:42
No, I was speaking in general. I just heard too much BS about "what pronunciation is more correct" and try to stop such discussions right from the start.

But there's nothing wrong in talking about your personal perception, of course.

To my personal perception, some British speak in such a manner that I barely recognize that they speak English.
And I'll give you a good example of "the correct British pronunciation". The songs of the Sex Pistols sounded so unintelligible to the American audience, that the producers had to put subtitles in their clips. Ridiculous, isn't it? Who would even think of putting subtitles for any Russian clip intended for Russian speakers?

Nothing personal  ;-)
Автор Drunkie
 - ноября 30, 2005, 16:55
'More correct'? Did I ever mention something was 'more correct'?
I thought I only spoke of my personal perception.
Автор Elik
 - ноября 30, 2005, 16:40
It's a matter of taste. I speak AmE and see no problem with that.
And I believe that all these debates "what English is more correct: British or American?" do not sound better than the debates "what is more correct: German or Dutch / Russian or Ukrainian?"

Just let the people speak their language!
:UU:
Автор Drunkie
 - ноября 30, 2005, 12:20
Цитата: paul_kiss (<b>Yesterday</b> at 22:38:38)
Both Brummy and Edinburgh and what ever in the Island - are UNPRONOUNCEABLE. For me, of course. All I'm saying is my deep humble opinion.
But another thing's about the AE. I perceive it easier. Much more than the BE
I personally find AmE more standardised and therefore its accents are easier to understand. BrE has a far greater variety of accents, some of which are pretty hard to perceive, let alone imitate. But I find the standard BrE pronunciation much more natural, if you like, and it's BrE I speak. I just can't stand all this strong aRRRticulation of AmE.
Автор paul_kiss
 - ноября 29, 2005, 22:50
Yep, (more exactly it's neo-rockabilly, but anyway), and Brian Setzer's Orchestra is neo-swing.
Автор Rezia
 - ноября 29, 2005, 22:47
I know the type of music "Stary Cats" play. It's rockabilly.
Автор paul_kiss
 - ноября 29, 2005, 21:38
Цитата: Drunkie (<b>Today</b> at 21:20:32)
Cockney is not the sole 'English of The Island'. ...Even Brummy and Edinburgh amongst them
Both Brummy and Edinburgh and what ever in the Island - are UNPRONOUNCEABLE. For me, of course. All I'm saying is my deep humble opinion.

But another thing's about the AE. I perceive it easier. Much more than the BE. Ain't know (LOL) why, though.

Have anyone of you heard Stray Cats/Brian Setzer? Which of the American accents do they have?

Thanks for the answer, Elik.