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Цитата: christo_tamarin от декабря 19, 2019, 14:16Съчинението "За буквитѣ"/"О письменьхъ" на Черноризец Храбър: опит за пространен анализ на цѣ̋лата тематика
На болгарском языке, draft project, далеко от завершения.

ЦитироватьThe runes (tbemdo) render six of the last eight runes of the older fuþark (tbemlŋdo), suggesting that the bone originally exhibited the whole abecedary, but it is unclear why the carver omitted the l and ŋ runes. Remarkably, this is the first find containing the final part of the older fuþark in South-Germanic inscriptions as none of the other extends after the l-rune (Düwel and Heizmann, 2006).

Цитата: Iskandar от февраля 15, 2021, 16:39
https://www.em.muni.cz/veda-a-vyzkum/13678-archeologove-mu-ukazali-nalez-nejstarsiho-pisma-u-slovanu

ЦитироватьArcheologové MU ukázali nález nejstaršího písma u Slovanů
Nejstarší nápis nalezený u Slovanů netvoří hlaholice, ale starogermánské runy.

ЦитироватьArcheologové MU ukázali nález nejstaršího písma u Slovanů
Nejstarší nápis nalezený u Slovanů netvoří hlaholice, ale starogermánské runy.

Цитировать7. On Elements (στοιχεῖα).[11]

There are twenty-four letters from α to ω. They are called letters (γράμματα) from being formed of lines and scratches. For to write (γράψαι), among the ancients, meant to scratch (ξύσαι), as in Homer:

νῦν δέ μ᾽ ἐπιγράψας ταρσὸν ποδὸς εὔχεαι αὔτως.

They are also called elements (στοιχεῖα) from being in a certain series (στοιχός) or arrangement. Of these letters, seven are Vowels: α, ε, η, ι, ο, υ, and ω. They are called vowels (φωνήεντα) because they form a complete sound (φωνή) by themselves. Of the vowels, two are long, η and ω; two are short, ε and ο; and three are doubtful, α, ι, υ. They are called doubtful[12] because they may be either lengthened or shortened. Five of the vowels are prepositive, α, ε, η, ο, ω. They are called prepositive because, when placed before ι or υ, they form a syllable, as αι, αυ. Two are subjunctive, ι and υ. Υ is sometimes prepositive to ι, as in μυῖα, ἅρπυια, υἱός, and the like. There are six diphthongs, αι, αυ, ει, ευ, οι, ου. The remaining seventeen letters are Consonants, β, γ, δ, ζ, θ, κ, λ, μ, ν, ξ, π, ρ, σ, τ, φ, χ, ψ. They are called consonants because by themselves they have no sound, but produce a sound only when they are combined with vowels.[13] Of the ​consonants, eight are Semivowels, ζ, ξ, ψ, λ, μ, ν, ρ, ς. They are called semivowels because, being less easily sounded than the vowels, when attempted to be pronounced alone, they result in hisses and mumblings. There are nine Mutes, β, γ, δ, θ, κ, π, τ, φ, χ. They are called mutes because they are more disagreeable in sound than the others, just as we say that a tragedian with a disagreeable voice is mute (ἄφωνος = voiceless). Of these, three are smooth, κ, π, τ; three are rough, θ, φ, χ, and three are medial, β, γ, δ. The last are called medials because they are rougher than the smooths, and smoother than the roughs. And β is the medial between π and φ, γ between κ and χ, and δ between τ and θ. The roughs stand related to the smooths thus:

φ to π—ἀλλά μοι εἴφ' ὅπῃ ἔσχες ἰὼν εὐεργέα νῆα·
χ to κ—αὐτίχ' ὁ μὲν χλαῖνάν τε χιτῶνά τε ἕννυτ' Ὀδυσσεύς·
θ to τ—ὣς ἔφαθ', οἱ δ' ἄρα πάντες ἀκὴν ἐγένοντο σιωπῇ.
Again, of the consonants, three are double, ζ, ξ, ψ. They are called double because each one of them is composed of two consonants, ζ of ς and δ,[14] ξ of κ and σ, ψ of π and σ. Four are unchangeable. They are called unchangeable because they do not change in the futures of verbs or the inflections of nouns. They are likewise called liquids. The final elements of masculine nouns, in the nominative case, singular number, are five, ν, ξ, ρ, σ, ψ, as Δίων, Φοῖνιξ, Νέστωρ, Πάρις, Πέλοψ); of feminine nouns, eight, α, η, ω, ν, ξ, ρ, σ, ψ, as Μοῦσα, Ἑλένη, Κλειώ, χελιδών, ἕλιξ, μήτηρ, Θέτις, λαῖλαψ; of neuters, six, α, ι, ν, ρ, σ, υ, as ἅρμα, μέλι, δένδρον, ὕδωρ, δέπας, δόρυ. Some add also ο, as in ἐκεῖνο, τοῦτο, ἄλλο. The final elements of duals are three, α, ε, ω, as Ἀτρείδα, Ἕκτορε, φίλω; of plurals, four, ι, ς, α, η, as φίλοι, Ἕκτορες, βιβλία, βέλη.

8. On Syllables (συλλαβαί).[15]

A Syllable is properly the combination of a vowel[16] with a ​consonant or consonants, as Κᾶρ, βοῦς. Improperly we speak of a syllable as composed of a single vowel, as ἆ, ἦ.

9. On Long Syllables (μακραὶ συλλαβαί).

A long syllable may come about in eight ways, three by nature and five by position[17]: by nature, when it is represented by the long elements, as ἥρως—or when one of the doubtful elements is assumed as long, as Ἄρης—or when it contains one of the diphthongs, as Αἴας; by position, either when it ends in two consonants, as ἅλς—or when a short or shortened[18] vowel is followed by two consonants, as ἀργός—or when it ends in a single consonant and the next syllable begins with a consonant, as ἔργον—or when it is followed by a double consonant, as ἔξω—or when it ends in a double consonant, as ἅπαξ.

10. On Short Syllables (βραχεῖαι συλλαβαί).

A syllable becomes short in two ways, either when it contains a vowel naturally short, as βρέφος—or when it has a doubtful vowel assumed as short, as Ἄρης.[19]

11. On Common Syllables (κοιναὶ συλλαβαί).

A syllable is common in three ways, either when it ends in a long vowel while the next syllable begins with a vowel, as

Οὐτί μοι αἰτίη ἐσσί· θεοί νύ μοι αἴτιοί εἰσιν—
or when a shortened vowel is followed by two consonants, whereof the latter is an unchangeable, while the former is by itself a mute, as

Πάτροκλέ μοι δειλῇ πλεῖστον κεχαρισμένε θυμῷ—
or when, being short, it stands at the end of a part of speech and the next syllable begins with a vowel, as

Νέστορα δ' οὐκ ἔλαθεν ἰαχὴ πίνοντά περ ἔμπης. ​
12. On the Word (λέξις).

A Word is the smallest part of an ordered sentence.[20]

ЦитироватьVII. Но перед этим не было у греков (особых) письмен [для своего языка], но записывали свою речь финикийскими письменами. И так было много лет. Потом же пришел Паламед и, начиная с «альфы» и «беты», нашел для греков лишь шестнадцать букв. Кадм из Милета прибавил к ним еще три буквы. И так в течение многих лет писали девятнадцатью буквами. И потом Симонид нашел и добавил две буквы, а Эпихарм толкователь нашел (еще) три буквы, и собралось их 24. Через много лет Дионисий Грамматик нашел шесть двоегласных, а потом другой - пять, а иной (еще) три цифры.

Цитата: Ice Cube от января 23, 2020, 19:43
Автор под свою теорию мог подобрать что угодно,а если не хватило бы,он бы добавил еще пару или наоборот урезал .Это и есть фричество.
Где ссылка на собственно греческого грамматика?

Цитата: Ice Cube от января 23, 2020, 19:43
а если не хватило бы,он бы добавил еще пару или наоборот урезал