Татарский язык

[Антиромантик]

Yes, you are right.

[Zhendoso]

Yes, you are right.

Артикуляция татарского звука, по-моему, часто близка к апикальной, особенно у старшего поколения.

[Хворост]

И слишком хороший английский для китайца. Больше похоже на американского еврея.

Даркстар, вы ещё не заметили, что вы не телепат и не ясновидец?

[hotforhammon]

I found two intersnye glagoly, u kotoryx interesnyx sprjazhenija:

http://wapedia.mobi/ruwiktionary/төя

төяргә - төя (stem) - төяү - төйи (present) -- to load

төяргә- төй (stem) - төю - төя (present) -- to crash, to grind, to beat

[to'ja - to'jau' - to'ji - to'jar - грузiть - to load, to fill - 装载, 填充]

[to'j - to'ju - to'ja - to'jar - толoчь, бить - to grind, to beat]

Could anybody provide some example sentences o "төяү" i "төю" ?

[hotforhammon]

Sorry, I forgot an important one:

Could you help me to conjugate this verb:

каю: гл 1. строчить, прострочить 2. окаймлять, окаймить; вышивать, вышить (по краям)

Мне кажется:

imperatives: кайыйм кае каесын кайыйк каегыз каесыннар

каю (-u / -u' type processive verbal noun)

кайый (present tense stem / I-type present participle)

каема (negative stem)

каеды (definite past tense stem)

каеган (indefinite past tense stem / past participle)

каеса (conditional stem)

кайыйсы (III-type future participle / necessity participle)

i chto its infinitive form (-arga / -erga form) ?

[Darkstar]

Мне вообще-то все равно, кто там прикалывается, если прикалывается.

[hotforhammon]

Kak skazat' "орaнжевый" (tsvet) po-tatarski ?

What I know o to'sla'r in Tatar:

kyzyl - red; al - scarlet; alsu - rose, pink; jashel - green; za'n'ga'r - blue; ku'k - skyblue;

kara - black; kon'gyrt - brown; ak - white; sary - yellow; sha'ma'xa' - purple, violet

Ja ne cmogu find orange (((

[Антиромантик]

http://www.suzlek.ru/suzlek/main.show?in_word=кызгылт
кызгылт сары

[hotforhammon]

http://www.suzlek.ru/suzlek/main.show?in_word=кызгылт
кызгылт сары

Antiromantik spasibo )))

[hotforhammon]

Что значит "йөзек кашы" ?

[Rachtyrgin]

Что значит "йөзек кашы" ?

fingerring jewel.

[hotforhammon]

Үзем сөям, үзем сөеләм

I love myself, and XXXX myself ? I don't quite understand "сөеләм" what's its grammatical form ?

[Borovik]

Үзем сөям, үзем сөеләм

I love myself, and XXXX myself ? I don't quite understand "сөеләм" what's its grammatical form ?

I love and (at the same time) I'm loved.

сөеләм is passive

[Rachtyrgin]

"сөеләм" what's its grammatical form ?

"-л" at the end of stem create passive voice of verb.

[hotforhammon]

Ra'xma't Borovik & Rachtyrgin )))

Esli ocnova glagoly already okanchivaetsja na [-l] ili na [-la], a [-n] ili [-yn] or [-en] suffix budet be added upon it ?

I mean, naprimer,

kal (to remain) -> kalyna,

bashla (to begin) -> bashlana ?

[Borovik]

башлан- is correct, however is has an active meaning ("to begin" intransitive).
калын- does not exist

As you may know, passive can only be formed from transitive verbs (белен- "to be known/felt")
Intransitive verbs in -л- do not form passive (кил-, көл-) or must be aided by additional suffixes to do so:
калдырыла "is left"

Generally, the use of passive in Turkic languages is rarer and more limited, as compared to European langauges

[LOSTaz]

As for the use of passive voice, I disagree that it is used rarely, as compared to European language. Bearing in mind how much we've got to use these forms im my mothertongue I would even say that we face them too often. It is impossible to get along without passive voice.
I wonder if we are exceptions in this case.

[Borovik]

As for the use of passive voice, I disagree that it is used rarely, as compared to European language. Bearing in mind how much we've got to use these forms im my mothertongue I would even say that we face them too often. It is impossible to get along without passive voice.
I wonder if we are exceptions in this case.

Would you use passive for the following in your native language without stretching it too much?
My wallet was stolen last night
I was born in 1990
The music was being played too loud by the students, who were finally asked to turn it down.
Something needs to be done to improve the traffic in the city
?

[hotforhammon]

i .... after experincing the passive voice "-l" change, its indefinite future tense always be spelt as "-ler(ga')" ili "-lyr(ga)" ?

I haven't see a passive voiced glagol with "-lar(ga), -la'r(ga')" in its ending

[LOSTaz]

As for the use of passive voice, I disagree that it is used rarely, as compared to European language. Bearing in mind how much we've got to use these forms im my mothertongue I would even say that we face them too often. It is impossible to get along without passive voice.
I wonder if we are exceptions in this case.

Would you use passive for the following in your native language without stretching it too much?
My wallet was stolen last night
I was born in 1990
The music was being played too loud by the students, who were finally asked to turn it down.
Something needs to be done to improve the traffic in the city
?

1) Dünən pulqabımı (portmonemi) oǧrayıblar. In fact, one would say rather "someone stole my wallet yesterday" than what you have written, I guess.
2) 1990cı ildə doǧulmuşam (anadan olmuşam).
3) literary:
Tələbələr musiqinin səsini çox vermişdilər, onlardan, axır ki, xahiş etməyənədək ki, səsini alsınlar.
normally:
Xahiş etməyincə ki, səsini alsınlar, tələbələr musiqini ucadan dinləyirdilər.
4) Yol hərəkətini qaydaya salmaq üçün nəsə etməliyik (nəsə edilməlidir, gərək nəsə eləyək).
I think the examples are not good and if no passive voice is used in them in the everyday conversations. Meanwhile I translated these sentences in the real Azerbaijani, trying to avoid too formal style, and though I didn't manage to prove my assumptions, I still believe these forms are often used, unfortunately it's a bit difficult to recall them so as to put down here.

[Borovik]

I think the examples are not good

This is normal English. All examples come from a grammar textbook 

[hotforhammon]

Pochemu oni spell it as "Болар нәрсәләр" not "Булар нәрсәләр" ?

тугел -> түгел ?

мәскәу -> мәскәү --- Moskva ?

http://tatar.com.ru/sam/ok1.php

[hotforhammon]

Ә укытучы утырамы? Юк, укытучы басып тора

I understand it as [And, is the teacher sitting ? No, the teacher is standing up there.]

What I feel confused about:

утырамы --- what does the suffix "-my, -me" function here ?

басып тора --- basically I understand its meaning, "basyp" is a participle, "tora" is the real predicate for present tense.  How to translate their combination litterally ?

[Borovik]

утырамы --- what does the suffix "-my, -me" function here ?

басып тора --- basically I understand its meaning, "basyp" is a participle, "tora" is the real predicate for present tense.  How to translate their combination litterally ?

-мы/-ме is the interrogative particle. Check your grammar book
басып тора is progressive. Do not try to translate the two verb forms separately - consider this an analytical form. Again, check your grammar about progressive verb forms.

[hotforhammon]

утырамы --- what does the suffix "-my, -me" function here ?

басып тора --- basically I understand its meaning, "basyp" is a participle, "tora" is the real predicate for present tense.  How to translate their combination litterally ?

-мы/-ме is the interrogative particle. Check your grammar book
басып тора is progressive. Do not try to translate the two verb forms separately - consider this an analytical form. Again, check your grammar about progressive verb forms.

Spasibo Borovik ) I didn't find [-my, -me] on my book, but I noticed that it was often used with interrogative sentences. "basyp tora" is listed as an antonym of "utyr" on my book )