Цитата: Python от марта 26, 2014, 04:03Цитата: Dana от марта 26, 2014, 02:53What about «усюди» /usʲudɪ/ ?
Ok, but what is the word for «everywhere» then?
Цитата: Elischua от марта 25, 2014, 00:20
To express 'everywhere' you have the word fyshõdui /w`ɕʊdɤ/. To express 'through' you have crwzy. Why then to let idle the word scrwzy until now having been shown as merely an odd alternative to crwzy?
Цитата: Python от марта 25, 2014, 02:41'That's an expression' was my gibing at myself for having used such a bizarre expression as 'shallow descriptiveness' or a word depthlessness.Цитата: Elischua от марта 25, 2014, 00:37The expression pronounced and used like a simple word. Without written examples in books I could write it like «вещас».
that's an expression
Цитата: Elischua от марта 25, 2014, 00:37The expression pronounced and used like a simple word. Without written examples in books I could write it like «вещас». It can be used for both continuous processes and repeating events.
that's an expression
Цитата: Elischua от марта 25, 2014, 00:37Using the same word for 'allways' and 'everywhere' is depthless in the same way. I don`t know much about «скрізь» for 'always', but «скрізь» for 'everywhere' does not contain information about continuity («тут скрізь ростуть дерева», «в морі скрізь вода», «цю річ скрізь можна купити»). And don't forget about time and space difference.
will be susceptible to depthlessness
Цитата: Dana от марта 24, 2014, 23:43
It's not the primary sense of this word.
Цитата: Python от марта 24, 2014, 23:53
«Весь час» /weʃtʃas/ in this function is more usual for me.
Цитата: Dana от марта 24, 2014, 23:43It is not the primary word now, as there is a borrowed Polish word used instead. But if we'd like to have Roussish word indeed, namely for a meaning of such a bare necessity as 'always' we need to think over own fallback. When a word assumes a newer meaning this is called a semantic shift. In the word scrwzy the meaning 'everywhere, every way through, all ways through' at face value shifts aptly to another (higher level) meaning 'all the time [through], always, steadily'. Compare English 'always' < 'all ways'. See?
It's not the primary sense of this word. Think there should be some other word...
Цитата: Dana от марта 24, 2014, 23:43Like what? Why does the word scrwzy seem improper to you? To express 'everywhere' you have the word fyxõdui /w`ɕʊdɤ/. To express 'through' you have crwzy. Why then to let idle the word scrwzy until now having been shown as merely an odd alternative (i.e. a doublet) to crwzy?
Think there should be some other word...
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